We want the facts; not a cover up.
posted by QuakerOatsWe want the facts; not a cover up.
I don't believe you will accept any facts that do not suit your own perceived bias.
But, sure, let's get all the "facts" out.
posted by ptown_trojans_1I don't believe you will accept any facts that do not suit your own perceived bias.
But, sure, let's get all the "facts" out.
we surely arent going to get the facts from the media or any lifelong politician. Thats why trump is dangerous. He isnt in the clique
posted by ptown_trojans_1I don't believe you will accept any facts that do not suit your own perceived bias.
But, sure, let's get all the "facts" out.
The thousands of texts @TGowdySC and I reviewed today revealed manifest bias among top FBI officials against @realDonaldTrump. The texts between Strzok and Page referenced a "secret society."
posted by ptown_trojans_1But, sure, let's get all the "facts" out.
Sometimes "technical glitches" can prevent all the "facts" from ever coming out.
posted by majorsparkSometimes "technical glitches" can prevent all the "facts" from ever coming out.
IRS emails, Hillary emails, FBI text messages.....gubmit sure seems to lose a lot of shit. I'd blame a cover-up, but look how badly they screwed up the healthcare.gov website.
The Obama Admin was far from "pure as the driven snow". I'm sure there's no criminality, but it sure looks like they went right up to the edge on a number of different fronts - the IRS and Trump...that's some Nixonian shit right there.
posted by ptown_trojans_1I don't believe you will accept any facts that do not suit your own perceived bias.
But, sure, let's get all the "facts" out.
We are talking about QQ, the guy who immediately calls anything about Trump "fake news; biased media", but goes six to midnight the instant anyone says anything about a high-ranking (or formerly high-ranking) D. A useful idiot for the Hannity-types, but nothing but comic relief to sane people.
dribble, dribble ....
posted by QuakerOatsdribble, dribble ....
Of course, if Trump doesn't fire Comey then there's no Mueller and this thing might have already been over.
posted by gutIRS emails, Hillary emails, FBI text messages.....gubmit sure seems to lose a lot of shit. I'd blame a cover-up, but look how badly they screwed up the healthcare.gov website.
The Obama Admin was far from "pure as the driven snow". I'm sure there's no criminality, but it sure looks like they went right up to the edge on a number of different fronts - the IRS and Trump...that's some Nixonian shit right there.
No criminality? No there is a lot of criminalty all over this in at least the IRS, FBI, DNC, CIA, and the WH before trump won.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Secret Society LOL......
Way to go guys, we are now in full blown conspiracy theory mode. I'm surprised it did take this long.
Is this the same society that has Obama's real birth certificate? Are they tied to the New World Order?
yeah, I think it's really low the Dems are saying "this is manufactured BS to undermine the conclusions of Mueller's team"
I mean, I might be able to believe that if I didn't think over half the Repubs would be MORE THAN HAPPY to have Pence running the show...
posted by SpockNo criminality? No there is a lot of criminalty all over this in at least the IRS, FBI, DNC, CIA, and the WH before trump won.
Not that you're going to prove. If they were dumb enough to put anything incriminating in email, well then those emails just disappear...
Sorry, but you got the Dossier and a "corroborating" statement from a bell hop and the FISA warrant might be crooked as hell, but not criminal beyond a reasonable doubt.
C'mon, you know better. The Clintons made a living operating in the gray area of the law and hiding behind lawyers and privilege.
I am going to be patient and just wait a few days hoping that sometime next week we get to see all four pages of the memo.
https://nypost.com/2018/01/23/evidence-suggests-a-massive-scandal-is-brewing-at-the-fbi/
“If either one is true — and I believe both probably are — it would mean FBI leaders betrayed the nation by abusing their powers in a bid to pick the president.”
“More support for this view involves the FBI’s use of the Russian dossier on Trump that was paid for by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. It is almost certain that the FBI used the dossier to get FISA court warrants to spy on Trump associates, meaning it used the opposition research of the party in power to convince a court to let it spy on the candidate of the other party — likely without telling the court of the dossier’s political link.”
“Even worse, there is growing reason to believe someone in President Barack Obama’s administration turned over classified information about Trump to the Clinton campaign.”
“As one former federal prosecutor put it, “It doesn’t get worse than that.” That prosecutor, Joseph diGenova, believes Trump was correct when he claimed Obama aides wiretapped his phones at Trump Tower.”
If this ends up the way it is looking, the corruption and criminality dwarf Watergate exponentially.
The smoking gun here is if the FISA court judge was in on it. You will have the tell tale sign if it get close to crumbling everyone from BHO to the Clintons to Comey if we start seeing more bodies show up.
Thousands of FBI cellphones were affected by the technical glitch that the Justice Department says prevented five months’ worth of text messages between FBI officials and former Mueller team members Peter Strzok and Lisa Page from being stored or uploaded into the bureau’s archive system, federal law enforcement officials tell Fox News.
Miraculous. The only people losing evidence involved in criminality are those who opposed Trump or want to bring him down.
Funny how that happens.
Trey Gowdy [I think] was saying there will probably be more memos to follow.
Also interesting is Samantha Power claims people were unmasking in her name - how is that even possible? I think my response would be "well, that's very unfortunate....but you're going to jail unless you start naming names"
posted by gutTrey Gowdy [I think] was saying there will probably be more memos to follow.
Also interesting is Samantha Power claims people were unmasking in her name - how is that even possible? I think my response would be "well, that's very unfortunate....but you're going to jail unless you start naming names"
Many will fall on the sword over this shit and it isn't going to be Biliary, Comey, Obama
posted by SpockMany will fall on the sword over this shit and it isn't going to be Biliary, Comey, Obama
I don't know. That may very well be true when talking about a sitting Administration. But I doubt even "true believers" are going to risk their job and freedom protecting a former Administration and the has-been Clintons.
Truthfully, if you want to send a real message....you're never getting any big fish - they always have plausible deniability and rarely leave a trail. So I'm not interested in plea deals naming names, honestly. The only way to stop it is for people to know they go to jail if they get caught - "following orders" is not going to save them. There is no "reverse whistleblower" clause where you save your ass by squealing AFTER you're caught breaking the law.
posted by SpockNo criminality? No there is a lot of criminalty all over this in at least the IRS, FBI, DNC, CIA, and the WH before trump won.
Proof?
posted by saltoProof?
Oh its coming. It will show that the Obama administration in coordination with HC and the DNC wire tapped Trump, paid for fake intel through a "British" spy and all the while had the head of the FBI in their pocket ready to dismiss anything if they got caught.
posted by SpockOh its coming. It will show that the Obama administration in coordination with HC and the DNC wire tapped Trump, paid for fake intel through a "British" spy and all the while had the head of the FBI in their pocket ready to dismiss anything if they got caught.
Just like Benghazi?
The whole Secret Society comment is now a fucking joke.
I'm sorry, most of this is straight up conspriacy theory bullshit. It falls in the same camp of the crazy libs that think Trump worked directly with Putin on things. Both ideas there that was a this massive conspiracy by Trump or by the FBI is laughable.
I also find the Nunes memo compelte bullshit as he won't even share it with the Senate Rs and seems to be reckless as it may release sources and methods. https://www.lawfareblog.com/dont-recklessly-releasethememo
But, go ahead folks, spin things to fit your own narrative.
The facts already known speak for themselves.
posted by saltoProof?
The IRS has already settled in court, and issued an apology for abuse of power - targeting conservatives. This is but one example.
The IRS has NEVER issued an apology; the players involved from obama on down are GUILTY as hell.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/27243-irs-apologizes-for-targeting-conservative-groups
If you don't think similar corrupt behavior is occurring in other agencies, you are a moron.
John Ratcliffe