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QuakerOats

Senior Member

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 9:40 AM

Picking up the corruption where we left it last on the old site ----

 

 

"Bruce G. Ohr, a senior Justice Department official demoted last week for concealing his meetings with the men behind the anti-Trump “dossier,” had even closer ties to Fusion GPS, the firm responsible for the incendiary document, than has been disclosed, Fox News has confirmed: The official’s wife worked for Fusion GPS during the 2016 election."

 

Unbelievable.  More proof that the ONLY COLLUSION last year involved the democrats, and some of the highest officials in our government.  

 

When does the house cleaning begin?  
 

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 9:45 AM

Ptown posting in 3...2..1...

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 10:07 AM
posted by like_that

Ptown posting in 3...2..1...

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When are we locking her up again? 

At this point, I'll let the crazy conspraicy theories keep going. 

I'm surprised QO didn't throw in Seth Rich to cover all the bases. 

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 10:17 AM

If only he wasn't silenced. 

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 10:38 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

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When are we locking her up again? 

At this point, I'll let the crazy conspraicy theories keep going. 

I'm surprised QO didn't throw in Seth Rich to cover all the bases. 

At what point does it not become a theory when there is actual evidence and clear delineation?

Also, would you think it was a just thing if she was charged, convicted and... possibly incarcerated?

And lastly, is it a crazy thing to believe Hillary should be looked at critically in this? Further, is it crazy to think she should not be looked at critically concerning this?

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 10:45 AM

I mean if Congress wants to try and dig into these like they did with Benghazi and waste a bunch of time and money, fine. 

I'm just don't get a hard on for going after Clinton like QO or others on here. I would rather the time and focus be on the bigger problems of the day.  

 

Spock

Senior Member

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 11:11 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

I mean if Congress wants to try and dig into these like they did with Benghazi and waste a bunch of time and money, fine. 

I'm just don't get a hard on for going after Clinton like QO or others on here. I would rather the time and focus be on the bigger problems of the day.  

 

corruption in our government is and should be a big deal to you.    There is not much else going on that would top that.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 11:15 AM
posted by Spock

corruption in our government is and should be a big deal to you.    There is not much else going on that would top that.

Maybe it is just me, but bigger issues that I would focus on in Congress: 

  • Actual tax reform 
  • Infrastructure projects and how to pay for them 
  • SS and Medicare reform 
  • Reform of Defense spending 
  • Debate on powers of the President to launch military actions post  9/11 
  • Cyber security and laws of warfare regarding cyber crime 
  • Restructing the federal agencies, reduce the federal government to be more efficient 

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 11:23 AM
posted by Spock

corruption in our government is and should be a big deal to you.    There is not much else going on that would top that.

Says the guy who auto-bleets "FAKE NEWS!" every single time the word corruption and the current president are linked together.

Automatik

Senior Member

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 11:28 AM

JAIL EM ALL.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 12:45 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

I mean if Congress wants to try and dig into these like they did with Benghazi and waste a bunch of time and money, fine. 

I'm just don't get a hard on for going after Clinton like QO or others on here. I would rather the time and focus be on the bigger problems of the day.  

 

Clinton would be just one player; it is starting to appear that not only are the democrat party and Clinton Inc. totally corrupt, but a lot of people in very high positions at the DoJ and the FBI as well (and their wives, and mistresses etc).  Amazingly, they all are starting to be linked together in a bizarre scheme of criminality and yes, collusion.  Pretty stunning thus far.

 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 12:50 PM

I mean if we want to investigate it like Benghazi, sure. But, you were claiming the same shit with that one, and it turns out it was not as bad as was claimed by the Republicans and Obama/ Clinton haters on here. 

I just think members of Congress have better things to do, to you know, Make America Great Again. 

 

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 12:58 PM

With respect to making America great again, I kindly refer you to the thread entitled "Impressed by Trump administration'. 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 1:02 PM

That is just the President, I am referring to a different branch in Government, Congress. 

President can't do shit without Congress. It is up to Congress to really drive and change America for the better. 

I would rather have Congress focus on those big issues I listed rather than past speculations/ theories/ rumors that take up time that could be used for moire important things. 

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 1:21 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

....

When are we locking her up again? 

At this point, I'll let the crazy conspraicy theories keep going. 

I'm surprised QO didn't throw in Seth Rich to cover all the bases. 

I was more poking fun of you for being rattled by anything QO posts.  Predictably, you were quick to jump the gun on this thread. 

 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 1:24 PM
posted by like_that

I was more poking fun of you for being rattled by anything QO posts.  Predictably, you were quick to jump the gun on this thread. 

 

Got me, hook line and sinker. 

Good call. 

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Tue, Dec 12, 2017 4:47 PM

Sessions has supposedly cleared the decks to allow for a special prosecutor to investigate the Uranium One Russian deal w Clinton.  We'll see if it actually happens. While they are at it, they can start the ball rolling on the dossier/Fusion GPS/DoJ/FBI/Democrat party corruption. 

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 13, 2017 10:34 AM

Looking forward to the day when the manufactured dossier full of falsehoods is revealed to have been used by the FBI as the basis for a FISA warrant, and ultimately a special counsel...............and the shit starts rolling downhill, exposing the felonious plot and the ensuing cover-up.  Makes Watergate look like shoplifting a pair of underwear from Wal-Mart.  Had Clinton won, we would never know of this corruption.

 

Dossier firm Fusion GPS admits demoted top DOJ official’s wife hired to probe candidate Trump

A co-founder of the opposition research firm Fusion GPS acknowledged in a new court document that his company hired the wife of a senior Justice Department official to help investigate then-candidate Donald Trump last year.

 

 

 

gut

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 13, 2017 10:44 AM
posted by QuakerOats

While they are at it, they can start the ball rolling on the dossier/Fusion GPS/DoJ/FBI/Democrat party corruption. 

Big if true

gut

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 13, 2017 10:48 AM

I think, at this point, given Russian interference in the election and Flynn and Manaforts Russian ties....there was enough to justify an investigation.  Now, the special counsel is mostly Trump's doing by firing Comey.

Really stupid and wreckless to have brought Manafort and Flynn into the Administration.  Appears to have been widely known in Washington, so clearly Trump's team did not do their due diligence.

Doesn't mean questions about the Dossier and its role still don't need answered.

gut

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 13, 2017 4:13 PM
posted by QuakerOats

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/13/ex-mueller-aides-texts-revealed-read-them-here.html

wow.  Proves motive for sure ..................easy to see how he would assemble such a dossier for FISA.  Congress was pretty aghast in today's hearing. 

I only caught a few minutes, but it was pure gold.

Both parties want to move on from the Russia investigation - Repubs want a Special Prosecutor for the dossier, and Dems now want an investigation into Trump's abuse of women.

Eventually, Dems will probably get around to going after Trump for taxes.

But the way Congress operates now, there's really nothing for the minority party to do except hold committees investigating stuff.

Spock

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 13, 2017 4:24 PM

Lol on the text " Went to local Wal-Mart... I could smell the trump support."

gut

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 13, 2017 6:40 PM
posted by Spock

Lol on the text " Went to local Wal-Mart... I could smell the trump support."

strong

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Thu, Dec 14, 2017 11:43 AM

The FBI’s Trump ‘Insurance’

More troubling evidence of election meddling at the bureau.

 

By  The Wall Street Journal The Editorial Board

Dec. 13, 2017 7:22 p.m. ET

Democrats and the media are accusing anyone who criticizes special counsel Robert Mueller as Trumpian conspirators trying to undermine his probe. But who needs critics when Mr. Mueller’s team is doing so much to undermine its own credibility?

 

Wednesday’s revelations—they’re coming almost daily—include the Justice Department’s release of 2016 text messages to and from Peter Strzok, the FBI counterintelligence agent whom Mr. Mueller demoted this summer. The texts, which he exchanged with senior FBI lawyer Lisa Page, contain expletive-laced tirades against Mr. Trump. Such Trump hatred is no surprise and not by itself disqualifying. More troubling are texts that suggest that some FBI officials may have gone beyond antipathy to anti-Trump plotting.

“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office—that there’s no way [Trump] gets elected—but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk,” Mr. Strzok wrote Ms. Page in an Aug. 15, 2016 text. He added: “It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”

What “policy” would that be? The “Andy” in question is Andrew McCabe, the deputy FBI director. FBI officials are allowed to have political opinions, but what kind of action were they discussing that would amount to anti-Trump “insurance”?

In another exchange that month, Ms. Page forwarded a Trump-related article and wrote: “Maybe you’re meant to stay where you are because you’re meant to protect the country from that menace.” He thanked her and assured: “Of course I’ll try and approach it that way.” Mr. Strzok, recall, is the man who changed the words “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless” in James Comey’s July 2016 public exoneration of Hillary Clinton’s emails.

The McCabe meeting came on the heels of the FBI’s launch of its counterintelligence probe into Trump-Russia ties. July is also when former British spook Christopher Steele briefed the FBI on his Clinton-financed dossier of salacious allegations against Mr. Trump. The texts explain why Mr. Mueller would remove Mr. Strzok, though a straight shooter wouldn’t typically resist turning those messages over to Congress for as long as Mr. Mueller did.

Meanwhile, we’re learning more about the political motives of Mr. Mueller’s lieutenant, Andrew Weissmann. Judicial Watch last week released an email in which Mr. Weissmann expressed his “awe” and praise for Sally Yates, after the then acting AG and Obama holdover refused to implement Mr. Trump’s travel ban.

This should trouble anyone who cares about the integrity of the Justice Department. Ms. Yates had every right to resign at the time if she felt she couldn’t implement Mr. Trump’s order. But she had no authority as an executive branch official to defy a legitimate presidential order. Mr. Weissmann’s support for her insubordination was a declaration that he is part of the “resistance.” This should be unacceptable in a ranking FBI official, much less someone charged with conducting a fair-minded investigation.

Public confidence isn’t helped by the continuing Justice and FBI refusal to cooperate with Congress. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who supervises Mr. Mueller, toed the Mueller-FBI line on Wednesday before the House Oversight Committee. He repeated FBI Director Christopher Wray’s preposterous excuse that he can’t answer questions because of an Inspector General probe. And he wouldn’t elaborate on the news that Nellie Ohr, the wife of senior Justice official Bruce Ohr, worked for Fusion GPS, which hired Mr. Steele to gin up his dossier.

The man who should be most disturbed by all this is Mr. Mueller, who wants his evidence and conclusions to be credible with the public. Evidence is building instead that some officials at the FBI—who have worked for him—may have interfered in an American presidential election. Congress needs to insist on its rights as a co-equal branch of government to discover the truth.

Appeared in the December 14, 2017, print edition.

 

gut

Senior Member

Thu, Dec 14, 2017 11:52 AM

I don't really have enough information to have much of an opinion on this, but it's very concerning.

I'd point out the Aug. 15th text could have been based on a strong belief Trump and/or people close to him were compromised by the Russians.  Although, that would seem to be a rather premature conclusion as the investigation was only a few months old (although investigations had been open on Manafort and Flynn for much longer).  But it's not inconceivable - this is months after Hillary's emails leaked and about a month after the DNC emails leaked.  I believe Obama and Congress had passed sanctions earlier that June.

So at the time of that text, the Russian interference and hacking was fairly well established.  HOWEVER, it doesn't appear [to-date] they had anything concrete or substantial on collusion to warrant such a statement.  But being a dyed-in-the-wool Hillary supporter (and other anti-Trumpers), it's not hard to imagine these people completely lost objectivity and believed what they wanted to believe.