https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/11/08/john_durham_is_getting_close_to_the_jugular_146702.html

Hillary colluding with the Russians .............my how it all comes full circle.

posted by QuakerOats

Hillary colluding with the Russians .............my how it all comes full circle.

The NYT had established the Hillary link early on in the hoax.  I realize that proving criminal charges is a much higher hurdle, but odd how quickly and completely the Hillary part of the story got pushed aside.

Oppo research certainly isn't a crime, but the way in which the Dossier was laundered & delivered....That always smelled, and it really seems like a politically motivated fraud was pulled on the  DOJ.

posted by gut

The NYT had established the Hillary link early on in the hoax.  I realize that proving criminal charges is a much higher hurdle, but odd how quickly and completely the Hillary part of the story got pushed aside.

Oppo research certainly isn't a crime, but the way in which the Dossier was laundered & delivered....That always smelled, and it really seems like a politically motivated fraud was pulled on the  DOJ.

The way it was paid for was surely illegal

posted by Fletch

The way it was paid for was surely illegal

Not sure about that, but definitely some issues there.

You can't pay a foreign firm for research, but if you hire a US firm then it's ok for them to pay foreigners.  Maybe.  Really a nonsensical distinction.  But I don't expect Clinton did anything criminal - if anyone knows how to do extremely shady shit legally, it's the Clintons.

A lot of the criminals all have a not-coincidental connection with the liberal Brookings Institute.

Amazing how that happens.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/national-security-adviser-jake-sullivan-foreign-policy-advisor-former-clinton-lawyers-indictment

Printed in USA Today ..........shocker; trying to get ahead of the curve to limit their embarrassment 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/no-collusion-how-americans-were-fed-a-false-tale-about-donald-trump-s-2016-campaign/ar-AAQuezH?ocid=msedgntp

Then you have CNN and MSNBC and the other networks still quadrupling down on their fraudulent 'reporting'

posted by QuakerOats

Printed in USA Today ..........shocker; trying to get ahead of the curve to limit their embarrassment

That is pretty shocking.  But I might instead suggest that it's just a moderate/conservative writer who can finally run that story without fear of being fired.

You see some of it on CNN and other places to, where they occasionally pretend to try to be objective.  They knew.  They all knew.  You don't get to come out years later pretending like honest mistakes were made when it's obvious you deliberately lied.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/12/08/why_the_russiagate_scandal_outranks_the_rest_146853.html

Bingo

Looks like some things are happening in the Durham investigation.  Maybe he is playing 4D chess and waiting to drop all this on the CLintons right before the next election cycle to keep them from it.

We now have the verification of what most of us  knew:  the Clinton campaign and apparently our own government infiltrated the servers at Trump Tower and the White House to spy on Trump, throw the election, and then, when Clinton lost, attempt to have him thrown out of office. 

This is without question the most egregious political criminality in U.S. history, and if a lot of people don't go to jail then we no longer have the rule of law.  

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/clinton-campaign-paid-infiltrate-trump-tower-white-house-servers

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/durham-probe-accelerated-more-people-cooperating-coming-before-grand-jury

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dni-ratcliffe-durham-intelligence-indictments-fbi-trump-russia-probe

posted by QuakerOats

We now have the verification of what most of us  knew:  the Clinton campaign and apparently our own government infiltrated the servers at Trump Tower and the White House to spy on Trump, throw the election, and then, when Clinton lost, attempt to have him thrown out of office. 

This is without question the most egregious political criminality in U.S. history, and if a lot of people don't go to jail then we no longer have the rule of law.  

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/clinton-campaign-paid-infiltrate-trump-tower-white-house-servers

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/durham-probe-accelerated-more-people-cooperating-coming-before-grand-jury

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dni-ratcliffe-durham-intelligence-indictments-fbi-trump-russia-probe

You've been calling for people to go to jail for years on any number of issues, and stated many times that the future of the Republic is at stake.  These people never get charged and no one goes to jail.  Yet here we are.  Boy who cried "Wolf!"?

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

You've been calling for people to go to jail for years on any number of issues, and stated many times that the future of the Republic is at stake.  These people never get charged and no one goes to jail.  Yet here we are.  Boy who cried "Wolf!"?

What seems to be a long and drawn out process that wont lead to anything, it surely isnt the daily leaked, fake investigation like Muellers.

I would say that since this investigation is the opposite of that, people are going to jail.

"Infiltrate" is about as accurate as calling Jan. 6th an "insurgency".

They used meta data [not sure if that's the right word] to see what computers were connecting to which computers (and where).  It is indeed a serious crime, but it's not like they were reading emails or listening in on conversations.

It seems like these clowns all started believing their own Russian collusion conspiracy BS.  Forgot it was just a political smear and became afraid it was actually true.

There were over 60 indictments regarding Watergate and over 40 convictions, and many did jail time.  It was essentially a break-in.  Similarly we now have a high-tech 'break-in', and this one even involves White House systems on top of others.   We also have a conspiracy; we also have fraud committed on the FISA court; we also have illegal unmasking; we also have high-level FBI officials involved up to their necks, and we also have a soft-coup attempt against the duly elected president of the United States.  The Russia Hoax makes Watergate look like a playground game of tag, so if people do not get indicted, convicted, and jailed, then we no longer have the rule of law.  This isn't rocket science, people. 

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/durham-probe-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-russia-jason-chaffetz

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/03/15/biden_and_obama_must_answer_for_russiagate_147333.html

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/durham-text-message-sussmann-lie-writing

drip

https://www.ntd.com/john-durham-issues-trial-subpoenas-to-members-of-clinton-campaign-dnc_770664.html

posted by QuakerOats

https://www.ntd.com/john-durham-issues-trial-subpoenas-to-members-of-clinton-campaign-dnc_770664.html

I think the biggest political crime in the nation's history deserves a look. 

posted by QuakerOats

I think the biggest political crime in the nation's history deserves a look. 

Watergate, Teapot Dome, Iran Contra and Joe Kennedy would all like a word with you.

Makes Watergate look like a friendly game of tag on the playground. 

posted by QuakerOats

Makes Watergate look like a friendly game of tag on the playground. 

Watergate was the coverup and lies. Funny thing about it - the actual break in was one of the most amateurish things I’ve ever read about.  How Gordon Liddy leveraged his incompetent planning of that into being regarded by some as a great patriot is hard to comprehend.  He was QAnon before QAnon was cool.