posted by iclfan2

If the left isn’t the crazy left America is in trouble. The best polling current candidate being a life long socialist is insane. Wanting murderers to vote while in jail is insane. If these are common beliefs then the left is dumb as fuck. 

And you have been a little bitch on here, not a troll. You just deflect instead of answering questions or what you’re actual beliefs are. And I don’t pretend to not be right, so don’t group me in with that. But I’m also not republican bc they suck too. 

Please STFU, S&L has it all figured out and knows your views better than even you do.   The guy that pretty much shares the same views as 90% of the posters on this site is desperately trying to differentiate himself.  It's hilarious. 

Lol, you guys are funny. I show up and say “you guys are right winged Republicans” and it throws you in a hissy fit. 

And ICL did you just call me a bitch? Haha wtf? you take politics too serious, dude. When you’re on a message board calling someone a bitch because you disagree with their opinion of your political affiliation, it’s time to re evaluate things. 

posted by like_that

Please STFU, S&L has it all figured out and knows your views better than even you do.   The guy that pretty much shares the same views as 90% of the posters on this site is desperately trying to differentiate himself.  It's hilarious. 

You’re very stubborn, aren’t you? I’m not trying to differentiate myself. I’m simply lol’ing at a group of people on a forum screaming they’re pretty moderate or libertarian and that the left have gone crazy and are super far left. 

Youre right, I do agree with most said on here. And still do. But I don’t try and convince myself I’m something I’m not and I certainly don’t let people with different opinions (libs) effect me too much. 

You guys read some article about how some guy in England went into a women’s bathroom because he doesn’t identify as a man, and you go apeshit thinking that’s how it’s going to be here. 

Next time, say these words to yourself and then move on: “who gives a fuck”

youll feel better 

posted by SportsAndLady

Lol, you guys are funny. I show up and say “you guys are right winged Republicans” and it throws you in a hissy fit. 

And ICL did you just call me a bitch? Haha wtf? you take politics too serious, dude. When you’re on a message board calling someone a bitch because you disagree with their opinion of your political affiliation, it’s time to re evaluate things. 

Are you stupid? I don’t care about your beliefs. You’re responses like “prayers sent” “lol oh call me a troll” etc is what makes you a bitch. You post nothing of substance. I only post politics here to point out how stupid the left is, but you just bitch about people’s beliefs without actually defending your own or even mentioning your own. It’s weird you can’t comprehend that. 

posted by iclfan2

Are you stupid? I don’t care about your beliefs. You’re responses like “prayers sent” “lol oh call me a troll” etc is what makes you a bitch. You post nothing of substance. I only post politics here to point out how stupid the left is, but you just bitch about people’s beliefs without actually defending your own or even mentioning your own. It’s weird you can’t comprehend that. 

Who’s being a bitch now? You’re bitching and moaning that I don’t just quietly let you throw a hissy fit with all your right winged buddies on here. Give me a break. If you can’t handle a little opposition to your opinions, I recommend growing a sack. 

posted by SportsAndLady

Who’s being a bitch now? You’re bitching and moaning that I don’t just quietly let you throw a hissy fit with all your right winged buddies on here. Give me a break. If you can’t handle a little opposition to your opinions, I recommend growing a sack. 

I’d love opposite opinions. Just saying dumb shit like “prayers sent” isn’t opposition. Nor is saying things like the left isn’t crazier while the highest polling politician currently in the race (until tomorrow) is a loser socialist who praised Russia and Venezuela. 

Boat Shoes is a total lib but at least argues the views, not just throwing out bullshit deflection.

posted by iclfan2

I’d love opposite opinions. Just saying dumb shit like “prayers sent” isn’t opposition. Nor is saying things like the left isn’t crazier while the highest polling politician currently in the race (until tomorrow) is a loser socialist who praised Russia and Venezuela. 

Boat Shoes is a total lib but at least argues the views, not just throwing out bullshit deflection.

What do my views have anything to do with this?

posted by SportsAndLady

You’re very stubborn, aren’t you? I’m not trying to differentiate myself. I’m simply lol’ing at a group of people on a forum screaming they’re pretty moderate or libertarian and that the left have gone crazy and are super far left. 

Youre right, I do agree with most said on here. And still do. But I don’t try and convince myself I’m something I’m not and I certainly don’t let people with different opinions (libs) effect me too much. 

You guys read some article about how some guy in England went into a women’s bathroom because he doesn’t identify as a man, and you go apeshit thinking that’s how it’s going to be here. 

Next time, say these words to yourself and then move on: “who gives a fuck”

youll feel better 

Lol, dude you are trying you're hardest to brand yourself as the "reasonable" guy, and it's pretty damn obvious you want to be viewed on that pedestal.  You're clearly trying to convince yourself somebody you're not.  We get it, you're butt hurt because this site has a thread about progressives to trash them and you want to discuss something else.  That's the whole point of the thread and you choose to go read it and get rattled.  It's a forum, that's what happens on forums.  Nobody here is going out in real life yelling at random people about progressives and living their lives in misery over them.  We literally have an entire forum named in dedication to poking fun at "serious business."  At some point you have lost track of that apparently.  I never knew spock and QO could live rent free in your head.  Bring back the old S&L.

I have asked you legitimate and simple questions, yet you choose not to answer them. and you're trying to call me stubborn?  Take your own advice.  

I will give you another crack it at.  Since you are so sure of everyone's views on this site and most of us are trying to be something we aren't, what views do I have that contradict who I am "trying" to be.  Don't give me this weak shit about hating progressives, socialists, leftists either. Give me a legitimate stance I have that contradicts me claiming I lean libertarian. 

My guess is you won't have a real answer, because you don't know wtf you are talking about.

posted by iclfan2

Are you stupid? I don’t care about your beliefs. You’re responses like “prayers sent” “lol oh call me a troll” etc is what makes you a bitch. You post nothing of substance. I only post politics here to point out how stupid the left is, but you just bitch about people’s beliefs without actually defending your own or even mentioning your own. It’s weird you can’t comprehend that. 

Exactly why I say he is trying too hard. 

posted by SportsAndLady

Who’s being a bitch now? You’re bitching and moaning that I don’t just quietly let you throw a hissy fit with all your right winged buddies on here. Give me a break. If you can’t handle a little opposition to your opinions, I recommend growing a sack. 

Nobody cares about you  providing"opposition," but at least don't be a coward and actually run like you always do when someone asks you a legitimate question.  So far you have only proven you are a fake tough guy.

posted by SportsAndLady

What do my views have anything to do with this?

S&L wants to attack everyone for being part of a right wing cesspool, while also acting like he doesn't agree with everyone.  Somehow he doesn't know what his views have to do with any of this discussion. LOL, at least Heretic paid attention at OU. 

That’s cool. Goodbye to the OC. You guys have ruined this place. Congrats. 

posted by SportsAndLady

That’s cool. Goodbye to the OC. You guys have ruined this place. Congrats. 

So much butthurt I think you might be gay.....Bye, Sleeper....again

posted by BoatShoes

And here Gut provides an ironic and good self-owning example of how even the most prominent crazy left person in American politics is not even as progressive as what is

LMAO....can you translate that for sane people?

posted by gut

LMAO....can you translate that for sane people?

What is considered crazy left in this forum and in America generally is basically normal/moderate in much of prosperous western civilization. You provided an example yourself with felony suffrage. 

posted by BoatShoes

What is considered crazy left in this forum and in America generally is basically normal/moderate in much of prosperous western civilization. You provided an example yourself with felony suffrage. 

Well, this is America.  You dodged the question, and you twisted what was said and the context.  But you've always been a clown. 

posted by gut

Well, this is America.  You dodged the question, and you twisted what was said and the context.  But you've always been a clown. 

Gut must be drinking alone again tonight. There was no non-rhetorical question in your original post that I quoted. Not sure how I twisted the context - was simply commenting on your timely post in relation to the "Crazy Left" debate elsewhere in the forum.

I'm afraid I did not make the cut for clown school though.

posted by gut

So much butthurt I think you might be gay.....Bye, Sleeper....again

Reminder - Gut in his rarified political eminence is "disgusted with political discourse" lol.

posted by BoatShoes

What is considered crazy left in this forum and in America generally is basically normal/moderate in much of prosperous western civilization. You provided an example yourself with felony suffrage. 

I'm actually glad that in the US we don't follow the political norms of places like the UK. There, people are being arrested for posting "mean" things, memes and openly opposing using assigned pronouns. When it comes to social policing that means that almost everybody that posts in this forum would have ended up in the clink. Pass.

posted by SportsAndLady

That’s cool. Goodbye to the OC. You guys have ruined this place. Congrats. 

Thanks for proving my point. 

-Asked a simple question and given a chance to prove he is correct.... doesn’t answer.

-Says we get butthurt, because he is providing opposition... proceeds to cry and take his ball with him an hour later.

Can’t make this shit up. I like S&L overall, but this is easily top 5 crybaby shit on this site.  Hypocritical too if you count all the times he made fun of posters for crying and leaving.

posted by like_that

Thanks for proving my point. 

-Asked a simple question and given a chance to prove he is correct.... doesn’t answer.

-Says we get butthurt, because he is providing opposition... proceeds to cry and take his ball with him an hour later.

Can’t make this shit up. I like S&L overall, but this is easily top 5 crybaby shit on this site.  Hypocritical too if you count all the times he made fun of posters for crying and leaving.

The least he could do is have an epic meltdown if he's really leaving.

posted by iclfan2

If the left isn’t the crazy left America is in trouble. The best polling current candidate being a life long socialist is insane.

They don't even pretend anymore. I got an email the other day from Warren's campaign about taking a survey to let her know what's important to me. I thought if she really wants my opinion, then I'll give it to her. At one point there was a multiple choice option to pick which campaign issues were important to me. One of the campaign issue options was simply "tax the rich". That's their platform. Take from that guy and give it to me. 

posted by queencitybuckeye

The least he could do is have an epic meltdown if he's really leaving.

I'd really rather he didn't.  I think this place has largely become as quiet as it has because it's becoming more and more of an echo chamber.

I might disagree with him often enough, but I'd prefer a few more people like him on here.

So this was a thing in the NYTimes before they removed it. There is now an uproar from both the right and the left about it. It raises a few points:

Firstly, I thought Trump was bigoted in every way including anti-Semitism. If that is what was the general notion, then how could this idea come about? He either is or he isn't. Or are we picking and choosing what he's guilty of now based on whatever Ilhan Omar headlines say? Is this the result of TDS?  Did Trump change his mind what he is bigoted of? Is this a way of jabbing Israel? Nothing about this is coherent to me, but I suspect that it's a tangle of all the above.

Every group of people (trendy term is collective) which also includes religion gets a black eye from time to time. So is the answer to pick and choose winners? Should we be outraged at all bigotry or just bigotry that is the flavor of the week? Does this include the right of free expression and if so, free expression for who?

"Religion" can be a touchy subject for anybody. I would like somebody to explain to me how it is ok and even funny to portray a naked Jesus in a bathtub with children or sleeping with somebody's wife but it is not ok to publish a cartoon critical of Mohammed or a Jewish person? Which item is protected and which is not and why? As a Christian I laughed at the Last Supper meme that came out years ago. I'm sure many, many people got offended at that, but many also found it funny. Who gets to decide what is mean, funny or critical? Does everything have to be offensive? Didn't we learn anything from Charlie Hebdo? Because it's almost like lessons were never learned.

posted by CenterBHSFan

So this was a thing in the NYTimes before they removed it. There is now an uproar from both the right and the left about it. It raises a few points:

Firstly, I thought Trump was bigoted in every way including anti-Semitism. If that is what was the general notion, then how could this idea come about? He either is or he isn't. Or are we picking and choosing what he's guilty of now based on whatever Ilhan Omar headlines say? Is this the result of TDS?  Did Trump change his mind what he is bigoted of? Is this a way of jabbing Israel? Nothing about this is coherent to me, but I suspect that it's a tangle of all the above.

Every group of people (trendy term is collective) which also includes religion gets a black eye from time to time. So is the answer to pick and choose winners? Should we be outraged at all bigotry or just bigotry that is the flavor of the week? Does this include the right of free expression and if so, free expression for who?

"Religion" can be a touchy subject for anybody. I would like somebody to explain to me how it is ok and even funny to portray a naked Jesus in a bathtub with children or sleeping with somebody's wife but it is not ok to publish a cartoon critical of Mohammed or a Jewish person? Which item is protected and which is not and why? As a Christian I laughed at the Last Supper meme that came out years ago. I'm sure many, many people got offended at that, but many also found it funny. Who gets to decide what is mean, funny or critical? Does everything have to be offensive? Didn't we learn anything from Charlie Hebdo? Because it's almost like lessons were never learned.

 

Because Christians and catholics dont stone people, burn down buildings, shoot up public places, strap bombs on themselves and subvert whole parts of their populations.

posted by Spock

Because Christians and catholics dont stone people, burn down buildings, shoot up public places, strap bombs on themselves and subvert whole parts of their populations.

My whole point was not to put Christianity vs Islam vs whatever religion or who has the biggest problem of victimhood this week. My whole point was about the right to free expression even if it's critical or unflattering to a/any religion. We either have the right in this country to publish critical cartoons of any religion or we don't.

posted by O-Trap

I'd really rather he didn't.  I think this place has largely become as quiet as it has because it's becoming more and more of an echo chamber.

I might disagree with him often enough, but I'd prefer a few more people like him on here.

I'd rather him stay as well, but if he wants to be a crybaby and take his ball home then so be it.  If you're going to come in hot, don't be a little bitch when people start coming back at you.  He couldn't even answer the simplest questions.

posted by Spock

Because Christians and catholics dont stone people, burn down buildings, shoot up public places, strap bombs on themselves and subvert whole parts of their populations.

Yeah, our Christian history isn't riddled with stoning people and instigating violent conflict.