posted by QuakerOats

 

The bottom line – AOC and other liberals champion $15 / hour wages; then sabotage thousands of $150,000 jobs.  Special kind of hypocrisy and stupidity there.

Another fun tidbit:

Those championing $15/hr minimum wages and the rich paying their "fair share" are quick to point to countries like Sweden and Norway as evidence that socialism can work.

Both Sweden and Norway: flat tax and no minimum wage

This is interesting: https://twitter.com/ZachG932/status/1098403734139355136

43% of Democrats vs. 70% of Republicans think that people "should be allowed to express unpopular opinions in public, even those that are deeply offensive". Strikingly, a similar proportion of Democrats support speech restrictions (39%).

By far the most supportive of speech restrictions are--wait for it--white liberals and democrats in the 18-29 age category.

 The whole thread is full of data and graphs and comparable data from a few years prior. I have to say that Jon Haidt (and others) has been pointing out thoroughly researched reasons why this is happening with millenials and the oldest crop of Gen Z. The youngest crop of Gen Z is expected to be far less authoritarian.

posted by O-Trap

Another fun tidbit:

Those championing $15/hr minimum wages and the rich paying their "fair share" are quick to point to countries like Sweden and Norway as evidence that socialism can work.

Both Sweden and Norway: flat tax and no minimum wage

And Sweden and Norway (and Denmark too) are quick to point out that they are not socialist, they are capitalist with a large safety net.

posted by CenterBHSFan

This is interesting: https://twitter.com/ZachG932/status/1098403734139355136

By far the most supportive of speech restrictions are--wait for it--white liberals and democrats in the 18-29 age category.

 The whole thread is full of data and graphs and comparable data from a few years prior. I have to say that Jon Haidt (and others) has been pointing out thoroughly researched reasons why this is happening with millenials and the oldest crop of Gen Z. The youngest crop of Gen Z is expected to be far less authoritarian.

The left hates free speech, and it’s scary. That’s why I’m not sure why some of the right leaning libertarians on here are looking for a dem to vote for. They have nothing going for them.

posted by iclfan2

The left hates free speech, and it’s scary. That’s why I’m not sure why some of the right leaning libertarians on here are looking for a dem to vote for. They have nothing going for them.

I hate trump but they have nothing else for me so at this point I’d vote for him 

posted by iclfan2

The left hates free speech, and it’s scary. That’s why I’m not sure why some of the right leaning libertarians on here are looking for a dem to vote for. They have nothing going for them.

I can't really speak for anybody but as far as myself - I think I'm just keeping my options open. Fiscally I'm conservative but that is really just an idea at this point in time and not reality. I'm socially liberal, but that doesn't mean I support/enable biology deniers, for example. Because of all of this, I think it's best to take a look at both sides and see what others are pushing out. 
Believe it or not I'm appreciative that Trump wants to bring exported jobs back to the states but I don't think he's doing a good job of that despite all of the links that QO posts.
I like that Tulsi Gabbard wants to get out of the certain wars but I'm not sold on her otherwise.
I like the idea that Biden would be able to stand up to Trump at least for a little while but he's not selling me anything else other than a good showdown.
Bernie can go fuck himself. Same with Kamala, Booker and Warren. Klobuchar, who?

So here I am, stuck looking at something and everything that I don't want and itty bitty parts that I do. It's literally a puke kaleidoscope. Meh.
 

posted by geeblock

I hate trump but they have nothing else for me so at this point I’d vote for him 

Well tarnation! "Things I never thought I'd see" ;)

posted by CenterBHSFan

Well tarnation! "Things I never thought I'd see" ;)

My hypocrisy only goes so far ... I hate kamala Harris 

posted by geeblock

I hate trump but they have nothing else for me so at this point I’d vote for him 

Regardless whether you like Trump as a person.....his policies arent affecting you in any negative way.  His 2nd term will likely lead to more in your pocket and more derangulations

posted by Spock

Regardless whether you like Trump as a person.....his policies arent affecting you in any negative way.  His 2nd term will likely lead to more in your pocket and more derangulations

Agreed I won’t live long enough for him to ruin everything and I don’t have kids 

posted by Spock

Regardless whether you like Trump as a person.....his policies arent affecting you in any negative way.  His 2nd term will likely lead to more in your pocket and more derangulations

His twitter and platform does effect my  life negatively tho 

posted by geeblock

His twitter and platform does effect my  life negatively tho 

If someones twitter affects your life you have more issues to worry about them who is President.

posted by Spock

If someones twitter affects your life you have more issues to worry about them who is President.

Effect and the way his Twitter fires up people who don’t like me does matter. I get that u don’t see it 

posted by Spock

If someones twitter affects your life you have more issues to worry about them who is President.

This is one of those "even a broken clock is right twice a day" moments for CC.  Gblock needs a life if he is being serious.  I can't tell if he is. 

posted by iclfan2

The left hates free speech, and it’s scary. That’s why I’m not sure why some of the right leaning libertarians on here are looking for a dem to vote for. They have nothing going for them.

Because either way we’re fucked. Dems/repubs it doesn’t matter. They all suck. But at least with a dem I wouldn’t have to hear Trump mumble his way through a pointless speech, or read his illiterate tweets, or listen to crying liberals blame everything on him, or listen to redneck idiots like CC defend his every move like he’s their favorite basketball team’s best player. 

Sure there’d be other things that would start to annoy me, but it can’t be that bad. 

Plus itd be funny to watch hacks like Trevor Noah try and keep their stupid shows afloat when they don’t have trump to rip on for 90% of their show. Be funny to watch them crumble in front of our eyes because they aren’t capable of writing actual jokes. 

posted by SportsAndLady

Because either way we’re fucked. Dems/repubs it doesn’t matter. They all suck. But at least with a dem I wouldn’t have to hear Trump mumble his way through a pointless speech, or read his illiterate tweets, or listen to crying liberals blame everything on him, or listen to redneck idiots like CC defend his every move like he’s their favorite basketball team’s best player. 

Sure there’d be other things that would start to annoy me, but it can’t be that bad. 

This sums up the last presidency (minus the tweets) and future presidency.  Politics is unbearable.

I disagree though, we are more fucked if a socialist democratic party has power over fake conservatism republicans.  

posted by geeblock

My hypocrisy only goes so far ... I hate kamala Harris 

I hate Trump as a person as well, but voted for him last time over Hillary due to policy and at this point would again based on the D field. I hope your girl Kamala Harris wins the D nom just for the comedy gold that the debates would foster. Spartacus would be a good second option.

posted by geeblock

His twitter and platform does effect my  life negatively tho 

Serious question, how does someone's twitter account affect your life at all, let alone negatively?

posted by geeblock

Effect and the way his Twitter fires up people who don’t like me does matter. I get that u don’t see it 

You corrected his grammar but you were wrong. Affect is a verb, effect is a noun. His twitter account affects you, but the effect should be small (see the difference?).

Thanks, autocorrect changed noun to known, I deleted the k, forgot to change the w.

posted by jmog

You corrected his grammar but you were wrong. Affect is a verb, effect is a nown. His twitter account affects you, but the effect should be small (see the difference?).

Typo (I assume), but someone is going to call this out lol.  

Was just going to ask what a nown was

posted by SportsAndLady

Sure there’d be other things that would start to annoy me, but it can’t be that bad. 

Never say this. Ever. You'll jinx the fuck out of everything!

posted by CenterBHSFan

Never say this. Ever. You'll jinx the fuck out of everything!

Meh. Goes both ways. People said if trump’s president the world would end, wed turn into a dictatorship, etc. none of that happened. If a socialist gets elected everyone would freak out that we’d all start making the same amount of money or minimum wage would be $60 an hour. None if it would happen. 

I’m just at the point where I couldn’t give two fucks less about amaerican politics. 

posted by SportsAndLady

Meh. Goes both ways. People said if trump’s president the world would end, wed turn into a dictatorship, etc. none of that happened. If a socialist gets elected everyone would freak out that we’d all start making the same amount of money or minimum wage would be $60 an hour. None if it would happen. 

I’m just at the point where I couldn’t give two fucks less about amaerican politics. 

People ruin politics. For the past couple years, the left in general has gone full Quaker with daily "the sky is falling" rants that mean nothing because any rational person can see that the world hasn't come to an end yet and doesn't seem to be on the verge of doing so, no matter how many people scream that it is while citing any little thing that semi-supports them, blowing it all way out of proportion. And it's the same stuff over and over. I remember a person or two here was convinced that Obama was going to abolish the two-term limit in order to be king/dictator/ruler for life and, shockingly, the same sort of shit got tossed on Twitter by equally fuck-tarded dipshits on the left a little ways into Trump's presidency in order to fire up the slack-jawed drones to be really, really irate.