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jmog

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 13, 2023 1:25 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

In 365 days, this will all be long forgotten.  I think you know that deep inside. 

I believe this is a true statement. But 2 things can be true, it can be a problem now and still be forgotten completely inside of a year.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 13, 2023 1:38 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

In 365 days, this will all be long forgotten.  I think you know that deep inside. 

That's the way it goes.  They (Harvard) still have $50 billion and it has been ceded to the leftists in charge; they have the staying power to inflict much more damage in the years to come. 

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Wed, Dec 13, 2023 3:04 PM

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

The biggest issue here is you have two groups of people vying for the same shitty piece of desert because each believes their own God favors them over others.  The extreme Palestinians want the Israelis wiped out and the extreme Jews want the Palestinians wiped out.  The moderates on both sides are of no help because they essentially legitimize the zealots by following a cafeteria version of the same twisted faith, thereby sending the message that the zealots are simply believers of legitimate world views who happen to follow each a “little too enthusiastically”.  A simple reading of the Torah or Quran will show the zealots are actually following their respective faiths pretty much the way they were laid out.


Until we admit that this entire ordeal is simply two religions reaching their potential, we’ll continue to pretend that there is somehow a right and a wrong side to this.  Of course, and in spite of the noise about Ivy League presidents/protests, the US is entirely behind one side.  As a result we will continue to pay the harsh price anyone does who comes between fanatical believers and their heavenly mission.


With the main thing being that, as a country, we need our forever wars because they're as good a reason as any to keep the money machine churning out $$$. If we had any interest in any solution not involving constant strife, well, considering how much money we provide Israel (over 3 billion a year, I think), I'd say we would have the right to say they are essentially our vassal and need to get in line or get cut off. But that's not our way because we love our conflicts and especially love them when our proxy states are at the forefront of them and we can play the role of "big brother" where we're not officially at war, but are offering support and printing money like mad for those who are.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 13, 2023 9:43 PM
posted by jmog

I believe this is a true statement. But 2 things can be true, it can be a problem now and still be forgotten completely inside of a year.

There may be a problem at these schools with respect to things being said by protesters that are detestable to others.  But that’s nothing new at these places.  I will posit that the only reason anyone cares about this particular instance above any other is because a congresswoman decided she wanted relevancy and set up a so-easy-an-infant-could-do-it “hearing” in order to get on tv and outrage the rest of the choir.


Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Wed, Dec 13, 2023 9:44 PM
posted by QuakerOats

That's the way it goes.  They (Harvard) still have $50 billion and it has been ceded to the leftists in charge; they have the staying power to inflict much more damage in the years to come. 

Harvard’s been a left leaning school since the early 20th century at least.


bigorangebuck22

Senior Member

Thu, Dec 14, 2023 12:36 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

There may be a problem at these schools with respect to things being said by protesters that are detestable to others.  But that’s nothing new at these places.  I will posit that the only reason anyone cares about this particular instance above any other is because a congresswoman decided she wanted relevancy and set up a so-easy-an-infant-could-do-it “hearing” in order to get on tv and outrage the rest of the choir.



This. And the sheep that ingest right wing media lap it up. The "outrage" is their crack cocaine.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Thu, Dec 14, 2023 10:48 AM

When should "outrage" be permitted, when they are loading them into the boxcars?  

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Thu, Dec 14, 2023 12:09 PM

Over the top hyperbole never ceases to entertain.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Thu, Dec 14, 2023 12:44 PM
posted by QuakerOats

When should "outrage" be permitted, when they are loading them into the boxcars?  

Yeah, Germany 1930s....yep, right where we are.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Thu, Dec 14, 2023 12:58 PM

While yes, most of the undergraduate students at elite universities are liberal, it is different for the graduate programs.

The elite business and law schools alumni are both liberal and conservative. 

Look up most of the current conservative lawmakers and judges, and they are from Harvard and other elite schools. 

Harvard law and business schools are hardly bastions of liberalism. 

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Thu, Dec 14, 2023 6:18 PM
posted by bigorangebuck22


This. And the sheep that ingest right wing media lap it up. The "outrage" is their crack cocaine.

Ok.

So when left media outnumbers right media, probably 10:2, does that make everybody else sheep also?

Your name tag has nice, big font, thanks for displaying it so clearly.

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Thu, Dec 14, 2023 6:43 PM

As sure as QO posts his outrage you can be sure that others anywhere on the left will arrive to start name-calling anybody who has been perceived to say something remotely on the right. Hmmm... racist, lazy, naive, sheep, magats, uneducated, etc. I myself have been called half of those names. 

I'm guessing it takes five or so people to hold QO in check? Is that it?

*giggles in text*

The lack of self awareness is interesting. It's like watching Lord of the Flies in real time. Live action, baby!

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Thu, Dec 14, 2023 7:04 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

As sure as QO posts his outrage you can be sure that others anywhere on the left will arrive to start name-calling anybody who has been perceived to say something remotely on the right. Hmmm... racist, lazy, naive, sheep, magats, uneducated, etc. I myself have been called half of those names. 

I'm guessing it takes five or so people to hold QO in check? Is that it? *giggles in text*

The lack of self awareness is interesting. It's like watching Lord of the Flies in real time. Live action, baby!

Lol, I hope you feel better after churning out that little mini-diatribe that, considering this site's overall political leanings, shows a lack of some sort of awareness!

I think the only person who says stuff on the right who regularly gets mocked is Quaker. Of current active members that is -- CC's various names definitely did, but that seemed rooted more in general idiocy and not being right-wing. Mainly because of his over-the-top hyperbole and often-hypocritical arguments (ie: complaining about media bias one day and then posting links from a biased right-wing media site the next). He comes off less as "concerned conservative" and more the sort of loopy caricature of a conservative that a sketch comedy show would portray in an attempt to make them look insane in the eyes of others. 

Now, it does seem like when the more left-wing members of the site (Ptown, Gblock) have opinions that differ from the norm, that's when the "five or so people to hold in check" really comes into play (maybe not with *giggles* included!) because I do remember threads just like this one devolve into a page or two of non-stop circular arguments because one of them said something that went against the grain, so everything else got put on hold until they got put in place and "the way things are" got asserted again.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Thu, Dec 14, 2023 9:42 PM
posted by Heretic

Lol, I hope you feel better after churning out that little mini-diatribe that, considering this site's overall political leanings, shows a lack of some sort of awareness!

I think the only person who says stuff on the right who regularly gets mocked is Quaker. Of current active members that is -- CC's various names definitely did, but that seemed rooted more in general idiocy and not being right-wing. Mainly because of his over-the-top hyperbole and often-hypocritical arguments (ie: complaining about media bias one day and then posting links from a biased right-wing media site the next). He comes off less as "concerned conservative" and more the sort of loopy caricature of a conservative that a sketch comedy show would portray in an attempt to make them look insane in the eyes of others. 

Now, it does seem like when the more left-wing members of the site (Ptown, Gblock) have opinions that differ from the norm, that's when the "five or so people to hold in check" really comes into play (maybe not with *giggles* included!) because I do remember threads just like this one devolve into a page or two of non-stop circular arguments because one of them said something that went against the grain, so everything else got put on hold until they got put in place and "the way things are" got asserted again.

It devolves into PTown and jmog using pages and pages to quote the other at length in order to point out a particular instance of an “I never said red; I said bright red”.  Mix in a couple of geeblock’s responses filled with the atrocious grammar and spelling of a retarded donkey.


CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Fri, Dec 15, 2023 6:46 PM

I was also including the choirboys who only drop in to start name-calling and disappear again for a while. I think I'll assign them as Jacks and Rogers. 

We've always had long winded and circular arguments. Whether its otrap and Isidore or jmog and ptown/Gblock. But at least they offer something else other than those that have no other substance. 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Thu, Dec 21, 2023 8:23 AM

Is removing (and others trying to remove) your enemy from the primary ballot election interference, or no? 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Thu, Dec 21, 2023 9:11 AM
posted by iclfan2

Is removing (and others trying to remove) your enemy from the primary ballot election interference, or no? 

Enemy huh? Strong language. I never think of someone from the other side as the enemy, but that's just me. 

I flip it back to you. Is there any circumstance where someone should be allowed to stay on the ballot? 

On the Colorado case, legally, if you look at the language, there is a good case there. Now, whether the Supreme Court agrees is the big question. They may decide this is a state issue and let it be, but who knows. 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Thu, Dec 21, 2023 9:49 AM

The left has treated him like an enemy for years, I also couldn’t come up with a better word. I think calling Jan 6 an insurrection is ridiculous, which would make their case against him very weak. The word insurrection, like many others in the last 15 years, have been devalued in meaning. 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Thu, Dec 21, 2023 9:58 AM
posted by iclfan2

The left has treated him like an enemy for years, I also couldn’t come up with a better word. I think calling Jan 6 an insurrection is ridiculous, which would make their case against him very weak. The word insurrection, like many others in the last 15 years, have been devalued in meaning. 

The court case revolves around Trump's action with the VP and his attorneys. The recent cases in Georgia and elsewhere show that it is not ridiculous. 

I'd also flip your language and say the right has been doing the same for years. Sad state of politics today. 

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Thu, Dec 21, 2023 12:02 PM
posted by iclfan2

Is removing (and others trying to remove) your enemy from the primary ballot election interference, or no? 

Of course not; why would you proffer such nonsense?!





lol

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Thu, Dec 21, 2023 2:15 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Yeah, Germany 1930s....yep, right where we are.


Heretic

Son of the Sun

Thu, Dec 21, 2023 6:12 PM

posted by QuakerOats


Cool, both parties are supported by "nazis", it seems.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Thu, Dec 21, 2023 8:44 PM
posted by iclfan2

The left has treated him like an enemy for years, I also couldn’t come up with a better word. I think calling Jan 6 an insurrection is ridiculous, which would make their case against him very weak. The word insurrection, like many others in the last 15 years, have been devalued in meaning. 

If a bunch of Obama followers attacked the capital in the waning days of his presidency, you would be screaming “insurrection” from the rooftops.  And you’d be correct.


Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Thu, Dec 21, 2023 8:47 PM
posted by QuakerOats


Which present US party are you referring to?  As I read that, it’s not clear.  


BTW, it started long before that in the Munich beer halls with a demagogue talking about how foreigners were poisoning the blood of the Volk.


QuakerOats

Senior Member

Fri, Dec 22, 2023 11:21 AM
posted by iclfan2

Is removing (and others trying to remove) your enemy from the primary ballot election interference, or no? 

All the judges were dems, but the 3 who did not vote to remove Trump from the ballot went to state law school; the majority 4 who did vote to remove Trump from the ballot all went to Ivy League schools.  The elitists once again telling the common folk who will be their ruler.  They shred democracy while telling The People they are saving it.  


This concludes today's rant.  



Merry Christmas!