It's great that after nearly 4 years Trump is FINALLY concerned about transparency and honesty...
But he has no path to victory. Concede and start the transition process, and then they can continue to look into voting irregularities.
posted by gutIt's great that after nearly 4 years Trump is FINALLY concerned about transparency and honesty...
But he has no path to victory. Concede and start the transition process, and then they can continue to look into voting irregularities.
If Biden gets in there, nothing is being looked into. They get away with all of it
posted by SpockIf Biden gets in there, nothing is being looked into. They get away with all of it
Biden can't stop the Republicans, particularly the ones in state legislators, from continuing to look into it.
He can replace Barr and tell the new AG not to pursue it, but that doesn't stop other parties.
posted by gutIt's great that after nearly 4 years Trump is FINALLY concerned about transparency and honesty...
But he has no path to victory. Concede and start the transition process, and then they can continue to look into voting irregularities.
.............. said big media
posted by QuakerOats.............. said big media
Do you honestly believe there are enough irregularities to overturn the vote in 3+ states to give the election to Trump?
And if you don't believe that, then why do you think he shouldn't concede?
I believe there is enough fraud that enough states could flip, if fully investigated. Joe Biden did not receive 79 million legal votes; if you believe he did, you are a prospective buyer of land in the Everglades.
posted by QuakerOatsI believe there is enough fraud that enough states could flip, if fully investigated. Joe Biden did not receive 79 million legal votes; if you believe he did, you are a prospective buyer of land in the Everglades.
Can you show the lawsuits that prove that?
So far, you cannot. Case after case is getting laughed out of court.
posted by QuakerOatsI believe there is enough fraud that enough states could flip, if fully investigated. Joe Biden did not receive 79 million legal votes; if you believe he did, you are a prospective buyer of land in the Everglades.
I seriously doubt 3 individuals in 3 different states could accomplish enough to swing the margins. It takes a Unabomber-level politard to risk 15+ years in jail because they care that much about the Presidential election. I think it would be tough to find 1 person like that, much less 3 or more.
And along those same lines, there's no way a coordinated effort could be pulled off. A few dozen people are all going to trust that no one snitches or screws up, and risk going to the clink for 15+ years? No way is that going to happen.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Can you show the lawsuits that prove that?
So far, you cannot. Case after case is getting laughed out of court.
Look, just because all these cases are being dismissed because "They cheated and we know it!!!!!" doesn't constitute legitimate proof and they can't raise their game beyond that level of argument AND just because Trump's at the stage where he is resorting to Senile Rudy as his main legal defense DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING; EVERYTHING IS FIXED AND OH THE REPUBLIC, SHEEPLE!!!!!!!
Lol.
I'm looking forward to 4 years of the far-right insisting Kamala isn't black....and has a penis.
posted by Heretic
Look, just because all these cases are being dismissed because "They cheated and we know it!!!!!" doesn't constitute legitimate proof and they can't raise their game beyond that level of argument AND just because Trump's at the stage where he is resorting to Senile Rudy as his main legal defense DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING; EVERYTHING IS FIXED AND OH THE REPUBLIC, SHEEPLE!!!!!!!
Lol.
Bruh, you know the Judges that dismiss all the cases are part of the deep state.
posted by gutI seriously doubt 3 individuals in 3 different states could accomplish enough to swing the margins. It takes a Unabomber-level politard to risk 15+ years in jail because they care that much about the Presidential election. I think it would be tough to find 1 person like that, much less 3 or more.
And along those same lines, there's no way a coordinated effort could be pulled off. A few dozen people are all going to trust that no one snitches or screws up, and risk going to the clink for 15+ years? No way is that going to happen.
Agreed.
I mean if we go by the numbers, Clinton had closer margins in 2016 and could have made the same case...yet she did not.
I would have loved to see this board if Clinton would have pulled the same shit in 2016.
posted by ptown_trojans_1I would have loved to see this board if Clinton would have pulled the same shit in 2016.
Right, she only spent 4 years calling Trump illegitimate and probably still claims Russia stole the election.
I can't imagine what some on this board will do when Trump does the same thing.
posted by gutRight, she only spent 4 years calling Trump illegitimate and probably still claims Russia stole the election.
I can't imagine what some on this board will do when Trump does the same thing.
LOL. Touche.
posted by gutI seriously doubt 3 individuals in 3 different states could accomplish enough to swing the margins. It takes a Unabomber-level politard to risk 15+ years in jail because they care that much about the Presidential election. I think it would be tough to find 1 person like that, much less 3 or more.
And along those same lines, there's no way a coordinated effort could be pulled off. A few dozen people are all going to trust that no one snitches or screws up, and risk going to the clink for 15+ years? No way is that going to happen.
posted by gutRight, she only spent 4 years calling Trump illegitimate and probably still claims Russia stole the election.
I can't imagine what some on this board will do when Trump does the same thing.
The people who claimed for the last four years that Trump/Russia stole the election, are now telling us that our elections have never been more secure and no one should question the current results.
The hypocrisy is immeasurable.
posted by gutI seriously doubt 3 individuals in 3 different states could accomplish enough to swing the margins. It takes a Unabomber-level politard to risk 15+ years in jail because they care that much about the Presidential election. I think it would be tough to find 1 person like that, much less 3 or more.
And along those same lines, there's no way a coordinated effort could be pulled off. A few dozen people are all going to trust that no one snitches or screws up, and risk going to the clink for 15+ years? No way is that going to happen.
Herein lies the problem with most big conspiracy theories - the likelihood that dozens or hundreds of people could cooperatively work together and then keep completely quiet about it. Not possible. If this uber secret election stealing apparatus does exist, why didn't it steal the 2016 election away from Trump as well? This is fake moon landing stuff. That doesn't mean every last vote was legitimate. That isn't possible either. I'm sure somewhere someone cast an illegal vote for Trump as well. But the law of large numbers makes those kind of cases mute.
The guy lost the election. Show a good example and pull for Biden to succeed. Our country needs that.
I don't believe Trump stole the last election, nor do I believe this one stolen.
But the continuous tears.....love to see it.
posted by AutomatikI don't believe Trump stole the last election, nor do I believe this one stolen.
But the continuous tears.....love to see it.
I do find it strange that trump lost the last election by 3 million popular votes and defeated Hillary by the same number of electoral votes that he is now down to Biden even tho he lost this one by 5 million popular votes
posted by ptown_trojans_1Agreed.
I mean if we go by the numbers, Clinton had closer margins in 2016 and could have made the same case...yet she did not.
I would have loved to see this board if Clinton would have pulled the same shit in 2016.
1. She spent the last 4 years saying Trump was not legitimate, so you really shouldn't use her as a high horse.
2. The Dems have done "this" before, or did you forget Gore back in 2000?
3. Is there some fraud? Probably, enough to truly change the election? Most likely not. However, is there an issue with checking and double checking? I mean its actually not the norm to know the winner the night of the election because of things like this. Biden will be President, no reason not to verify everything first.
4. It is hilarious for you to act like democrats have not in the past, and would not do the same thing given their actual history, especially over the last 4 years. Come back to reality.
posted by geeblockI do find it strange that trump lost the last election by 3 million popular votes and defeated Hillary by the same number of electoral votes that he is now down to Biden even tho he lost this one by 5 million popular votes
For future reference, the popular vote doesn't mean anything for POTUS elections. Hope this helps.
posted by jmogFor future reference, the popular vote doesn't mean anything for POTUS elections. Hope this helps.
What's also assumed is that the Trump team, who completely out-played the Clinton team, would not have also done so if the election was based on popular vote.
Random question, has Pence said a goddamn word about this stolen election? I wonder why not?
posted by geeblockI do find it strange that trump lost the last election by 3 million popular votes and defeated Hillary by the same number of electoral votes that he is now down to Biden even tho he lost this one by 5 million popular votes
It's not strange at all. Biden got more votes in the key battleground states like PA, MI, WI, AZ and GA. Clinton did not get those numbers in 2016, yet got sky high numbers in worthless states like CA and NY.
posted by AutomatikRandom question, has Pence said a goddamn word about this stolen election? I wonder why not?
I would guess Pence wants out.