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OHSAA Competive balance commitee to meet again

  • Bigdogg
    News Release – Ohio High School Athletic Association
    Commissioner Daniel B. Ross, Ph.D.

    4080 Roselea Place
    Columbus, OH 43214
    Main: 614-267-2502
    Fax: 614-267-1677
    www.OHSAA.org

    For Immediate Release – January 13, 2012

    Contact – Tim Stried, Director of Information Services, [email protected]
    OHSAA Board of Directors Meeting Highlights – January 12, 2012

    COLUMBUS, Ohio – The Ohio High School Athletic Association Board of Directors met Thursday morning at the OHSAA office in Columbus for its regularly scheduled January meeting. The following are highlights from the meeting. The complete set of meeting minutes will be posted at OHSAA.org in the near future.

    - The Board unanimously approved a motion to continue to support the work of the OHSAA’s Competitive Balance Committee, which meets again January 31. The motion was in response to a letter received from an Ohio public school superintendent that requested the Board of Directors immediately create a referendum item to go to the membership this spring that would place public and non-public schools into separate tournaments.

    http://www.ohsaa.org/news/board/11212.pdf
  • queencitybuckeye
    The juice box heroes are still trying.
  • TCB
    I have the ultimate solution to competitive imbalance. It's called "get better."
  • j_crazy
    TCB;1056306 wrote:I have the ultimate solution to competitive imbalance. It's called "get better."

    It's hard when you can't recruit.
  • rmolin73
    j_crazy;1056765 wrote:It's hard when you can't recruit.
    Tell that to Kirtland, Trotwood Madison(wait a minute), Maria Stein Marion Local, and Creston Norwayne. Yeah pretty much get better.
  • Con_Alma
    j_crazy;1056765 wrote:It's hard when you can't recruit.
    Everyone can recruit.
  • Bigdogg
    Con_Alma;1056780 wrote:Everyone can recruit.
    In a metro area yes, in a rural area, no so much.
  • Jake Grey
    I hope Mo reaches up from the grave and slaps one of those fools upside the head and knocks some sense into them.

    Jake
  • hasbeen
    As a public school athlete, I had an even record with private schools.
    Sack up and compete.
  • Con_Alma
    Bigdogg;1057036 wrote:In a metro area yes, in a rural area, no so much.
    Yes they can but their pool is smaller.
  • Old Rider
    Competitive Balance???...just fill your non-league schedule with stronger opponents and quit playing cupcakes that do not prepare you for the playoffs. They need to to squash this proposal.

    Get better or quit complaining!
  • FairwoodKing
    Over the past ten years, Steubenville Big Red has gone 40-7 against privates. Wins have included Mooney, Ursuline, Alter, Akron SVSM, Canton CC, Columbus Watterson, DeSales, and many others.

    Nevertheless, I feel that the privates should have their own playoffs. The Catholic schools have recruiting opportunities that the publics just don't have. IF the privates choose to leave the OHSAA and form their own association, so be it.
  • landshark0731
    FairwoodKing;1057902 wrote:Over the past ten years, Steubenville Big Red has gone 40-7 against privates. Wins have included Mooney, Ursuline, Alter, Akron SVSM, Canton CC, Columbus Watterson, DeSales, and many others.

    Nevertheless, I feel that the privates should have their own playoffs. The Catholic schools have recruiting opportunities that the publics just don't have. IF the privates choose to leave the OHSAA and form their own association, so be it.
    If they do seperate, should public schools still have open enrollment?
  • fish82
    FairwoodKing;1057902 wrote: Nevertheless, I feel that the privates should have their own playoffs. The Catholic schools have recruiting opportunities that the publics just don't have.
    You guys seem to be doing okay on that front. ;)

    In any case, your statement is patently false. Almost 80% of the state's districts have open enrollment. 64% have it statewide.
  • queencitybuckeye
    fish82;1058502 wrote:You guys seem to be doing okay on that front. ;)

    In any case, your statement is patently false. Almost 80% of the state's districts have open enrollment. 64% have it statewide.
    Exactly. There is nothing a private school can do within the rules to attract students that a public school can not.
  • Al Bundy
    FairwoodKing;1057902 wrote:Over the past ten years, Steubenville Big Red has gone 40-7 against privates. Wins have included Mooney, Ursuline, Alter, Akron SVSM, Canton CC, Columbus Watterson, DeSales, and many others.

    Nevertheless, I feel that the privates should have their own playoffs. The Catholic schools have recruiting opportunities that the publics just don't have. IF the privates choose to leave the OHSAA and form their own association, so be it.
    In the communities of Steubenville, Warren, Canton, etc. why do the public schools have better players thand the private schools if the private schools have such an advantage?
  • Sykotyk
    fish82;1058502 wrote:You guys seem to be doing okay on that front. ;)

    In any case, your statement is patently false. Almost 80% of the state's districts have open enrollment. 64% have it statewide.
    Publics, even OE-statewide, have students they HAVE to take. Privates do not. It'd be great if OE publics could kick out any student that didn't meet some sort of higher standard than 'doesn't drown in their own drool'.
  • queencitybuckeye
    Sykotyk;1059142 wrote:Publics, even OE-statewide, have students they HAVE to take. Privates do not. It'd be great if OE publics could kick out any student that didn't meet some sort of higher standard than 'doesn't drown in their own drool'.
    That would be great?
  • ManO'War
    How about they only count eligible male students to determine divisions?
  • queencitybuckeye
    ManO'War;1059160 wrote:How about they only count eligible male students to determine divisions?
    Do we make a distinction between disabled and morons?
  • Al Bundy
    Sykotyk;1059142 wrote:Publics, even OE-statewide, have students they HAVE to take. Privates do not. It'd be great if OE publics could kick out any student that didn't meet some sort of higher standard than 'doesn't drown in their own drool'.
    Many districts choose not to expel kids who do terrible things because each kid brings state money with him/her. Youngstown City Schools has decided not to expel kids because they lose the money that comes with that kid.
  • Ohio
    Public and Privates both do things to get better talent at their school everyone knows that, the Private schools who win alot just get noticed a little bit more.
  • password
    ManO'War;1059160 wrote:How about they only count eligible male students to determine divisions?

    How about they just leave it alone. Remember that there is more to high school than winning state championships, as stated earlier in this thread by FWK Big Red has beat private schools and so has many other public schools. What will be next, a seperate tournament for schools that can't win more than 5 games because other schools have better players?
  • Thinthickbigred
    Bigdogg;1055638 wrote:News Release – Ohio High School Athletic Association
    Commissioner Daniel B. Ross, Ph.D.

    4080 Roselea Place
    Columbus, OH 43214
    Main: 614-267-2502
    Fax: 614-267-1677
    www.OHSAA.org

    For Immediate Release – January 13, 2012

    Contact – Tim Stried, Director of Information Services, [email protected]
    OHSAA Board of Directors Meeting Highlights – January 12, 2012

    COLUMBUS, Ohio – The Ohio High School Athletic Association Board of Directors met Thursday morning at the OHSAA office in Columbus for its regularly scheduled January meeting. The following are highlights from the meeting. The complete set of meeting minutes will be posted at OHSAA.org in the near future.

    - The Board unanimously approved a motion to continue to support the work of the OHSAA’s Competitive Balance Committee, which meets again January 31. The motion was in response to a letter received from an Ohio public school superintendent that requested the Board of Directors immediately create a referendum item to go to the membership this spring that would place public and non-public schools into separate tournaments.

    http://www.ohsaa.org/news/board/11212.pdf
    We have to keep beating the drum . Thank you Wayne county suppers.
  • fish82
    Sykotyk;1059142 wrote:Publics, even OE-statewide, have students they HAVE to take. Privates do not. It'd be great if OE publics could kick out any student that didn't meet some sort of higher standard than 'doesn't drown in their own drool'.
    I don't know of any private schools that are turning away students...and they expel kids for the exact same reasons that publics do. The notion that the privates intentionally "thin the herd" is another urban legend meant to rile up the mob.