Orrville Red Rider Football 2012

• Troll King

  BRF;1282785 wrote:Old news. Been said many times before by greater posters than both of you.

  I can only hope to be as great as those greater posters someday.
• Red Rider Nation

  BRF;1282785 wrote:Old news. Been said many times before by greater posters than both of you.

  
  Whoa striking comeback! Great job brother!!!
• Series62

  Riderfan;1282768 wrote:observations. west holmes is a very good team. 24 ran the ball well tonight. not sure 1 is ready to take over yet.

  I'm sure #10 isn't going to do much better at this point.
  Did he do any worse than #10?
  He won't learn much without some time at the position.
  #40 is not better than #24.
  #24 has run well every game that I've attended, for some strange reason, after a successful drive he doesn't get much additional play.
  His play has proven him to be the better RB.
  
  Did you "observe" that! Can you explain that!
• Series62

  BRF;1282776 wrote:Oh, OK....thanks for explaining the rationale. Any other negative notes you took tonight that you would like to share?

  There were no negative notes taken and what I said was not negative.
  
  The negative note I'll share is the presence and ridiculous comments of "barf".
• eyes r burning

  Maybe sup Richie will rotate the coaching staffs between the schools, we are ready for a change over here, we think we have the worst over here and you the same and sure Rittman thinks the same, but we would love to have your staff compared to what we have!
• thePITman

  

  BRF;1282733 wrote:I wasn't very happy with WH being up 28-0 with a minute left in the half throwing (at least 6 times straight) and calling time outs. Did we ever do that to another team in a situation like that? Regardless, I didn't like it.

  Normally in football, I believe any coach is going to build as big of a lead as possible in the 1st half. In the 2nd half of a blowout, you start your starters the first drive or two, see how it goes, and go from there. In the case of Norwayne vs Chippewa, after those 1/2 drives of the 3rd quarter, you have 2nd & 3rd string in. But the OCC is different football, so it wouldn't surprise me if WH kept theirs in a little longer.
• OQB

  

  Fire em all!!!!!
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  #sarcasm :rolleyes:
• RedRider1

  

  Stinks to lose another ugly one. Our last 3 games, we've been out scored 106-20. Just so semblance of a clue on offense.
  
  Worse to lose a captain at linebacker (Infield). He may be done for the year.
  
  West Holmes is good. They may be another area team to make a deep playoff run. That QB runs their system well & Arnold (#4) is a special athlete.
• Red Rider Nation

  OQB;1282841 wrote:Fire em all!!!!!
  
  
  
  No No No keep Haley!!! Otherwise great post OQB you are coming around!!!
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

• Troll King

  Series62;1282790 wrote:I'm sure #10 isn't going to do much better at this point.
  Did he do any worse than #10?
  He won't learn much without some time at the position.
  #40 is not better than #24.
  #24 has run well every game that I've attended, for some strange reason, after a successful drive he doesn't get much additional play.
  His play has proven him to be the better RB.
  
  Did you "observe" that! Can you explain that!

  I agree with everything you said series62. #10 has had three years now to get better and still hasn't. He has not improved in any area at all in three years. It's time for #1 to get the ball in his hands, he can't do any worse. #24 is the best runner they have yet he doesn't start ? He runs them to the one yard line and doesn't play next series. I will never understand Devault's logic. Was he punished for not scoring or what. Like I said before if it works Devault changes it.
• OQB

  

  Maybe the coaches are using a rotation at running back to keep guys fresh, or using certain backs in certain situations?
  
  I know Urban Meyer is doing this at Ohio State...perfect example is Jordan Hall/Braxton Miller ran the team right down the field and when they got inside the 10 they brought Rod Smith in, then when they got to the 1 they gave the ball to Zach Boren.
  
  I don't know if that is what our coaches are doing, but maybe they are using the same logic? Use #24/#21 when you are driving, then when you get inside the 10 bring in the bruiser?
  
  Regardless.....if you don't have the ability or depth to do that, then you have to have your best 11 players out there, if that means leave #24/#21 in then I agree...do it.
• RedRider1

  

  At the time of our 1 good drive, wasn't the score 35-0? Maybe the coach was rotating 24 & 21 and it just happened to be #21's turn the next drive?
  
  We're splitting hairs, none of these personnel changes would magically turn us into a 5-1 team. We're down and the rest of the conference is up.
  
  I'm all for #1 & #24 seeing more time, but it would be at the expense of two senior captains. Kids who have been part of the programs for 4 years and show up for off season (voluntary) workouts and do whatever is asked of them.
  
  Puts the coaches in a tough spot. And yes, politics do exist...welcome to every town in America. Kids who do more than the minimum, kids who aren't running their mouth on twitter, kids who put in the work in the weight room...those kids get the benefit of the doubt...like it or not.
  
  Just another reminder...booster club meeting is Monday night at the school. Opportunity to ask all your pressing questions.
  
  Oh and save your "anonymous" comments on my blog saying we need to hire a new coach from outside the area...I won't be publishing those. Guessing its someone from this site.
• thePITman

  

  RedRider1;1282909 wrote:Puts the coaches in a tough spot. And yes, politics do exist...welcome to every town in America. Kids who do more than the minimum, kids who aren't running their mouth on twitter, kids who put in the work in the weight room...those kids get the benefit of the doubt...like it or not.

  That's not politics. That's common sense. And football.
• Troll King

  RedRider1;1282909 wrote:At the time of our 1 good drive, wasn't the score 35-0? Maybe the coach was rotating 24 & 21 and it just happened to be #21's turn the next drive?
  
  We're splitting hairs, none of these personnel changes would magically turn us into a 5-1 team. We're down and the rest of the conference is up.
  
  I'm all for #1 & #24 seeing more time, but it would be at the expense of two senior captains. Kids who have been part of the programs for 4 years and show up for off season (voluntary) workouts and do whatever is asked of them.
  
  Puts the coaches in a tough spot. And yes, politics do exist...welcome to every town in America. Kids who do more than the minimum, kids who aren't running their mouth on twitter, kids who put in the work in the weight room...those kids get the benefit of the doubt...like it or not.
  
  Just another reminder...booster club meeting is Monday night at the school. Opportunity to ask all your pressing questions.
  
  Oh and save your "anonymous" comments on my blog saying we need to hire a new coach from outside the area...I won't be publishing those. Guessing its someone from this site.

  One of those senior captains is just not getting the job done. Let him play another position where he seems to do a better job . Are we supposed to go through the season with a bad qb just because he is a senior ? If there is someone else who can do a better job at the position shouldn't he play regardless of his year in school. So what if the kid puts in all the extra work if it doesn't make him any better what's the point. Don't give me that crap about the weight room either because by the looks of it there's only about five kids on that team that actually lift weights.
• Red Rider Nation

  OQB;1282888 wrote:Maybe the coaches are using a rotation at running back to keep guys fresh, or using certain backs in certain situations?
  
  I know Urban Meyer is doing this at Ohio State...perfect example is Jordan Hall/Braxton Miller ran the team right down the field and when they got inside the 10 they brought Rod Smith in, then when they got to the 1 they gave the ball to Zach Boren.
  
  I don't know if that is what our coaches are doing, but maybe they are using the same logic? Use #24/#21 when you are driving, then when you get inside the 10 bring in the bruiser?
  
  Regardless.....if you don't have the ability or depth to do that, then you have to have your best 11 players out there, if that means leave #24/#21 in then I agree...do it.

  
  Please tell me you are NOT comparing Davault to Urban Meyer! Come on OQB you are much smarter than that. You are a bright kid with a bright future but dont insult Urban Meyer!!!
• Red Rider Nation

  Troll King;1282920 wrote:One of those senior captains is just not getting the job done. Let him play another position where he seems to do a better job . Are we supposed to go through the season with a bad qb just because he is a senior ? If there is someone else who can do a better job at the position shouldn't he play regardless of his year in school. So what if the kid puts in all the extra work if it doesn't make him any better what's the point. Don't give me that crap about the weight room either because by the looks of it there's only about five kids on that team that actually lift weights.

  
  Bingo! Thats it you just hit on Bingo!!! Winner winner chicken dinner!! Weight room???? Ummmm where? I thought that got leveled as part of the new school.
• Troll King

  Red Rider Nation;1282928 wrote:Bingo! Thats it you just hit on Bingo!!! Winner winner chicken dinner!! Weight room???? Ummmm where? I thought that got leveled as part of the new school.

  Thanks Brother !!!! LOL.
• Red Rider Nation

  thePITman;1282915 wrote:That's not politics. That's common sense. And football.

  
  
  Whoa whoa whoa! Did you just use football at Orrville and common sense in the same sentence? ummmmm common sense???? Here? Are you sure? Wait you did say common sense right?
• RedRider1

  

  thePITman;1282915 wrote:That's not politics. That's common sense. And football.

  
  Of course it's common sense...it's the kids who aren't putting in that work that are the first to cry politics as a way to shift the blame.
• Red Rider Nation

  As I turn on ESPN and see freshman Mason Monheim getting the start at Illinois I once again get sick to my stomach
  
  Mason Monheim at Illinois
  Drew Brenner at Ashland
  Stu Turner at Ball St
  CHase Hoobler at Indiana
  Sam Miller at Kent St
  Max Pirman at Nebraska
  
  Hmmmmmmmm that wreaks of a 7-3 record right?
  
  
  As good as that West Holmes team was they have ONE kid going D1 and that is to Kent! Are they good because of coaching or that maybe doesnt have anything to do with it? THat team will finish 10-0 in D3 with ONE D1 recruit!!!
• OQB

  

  Red Rider Nation;1282927 wrote:Please tell me you are NOT comparing Davault to Urban Meyer! Come on OQB you are much smarter than that. You are a bright kid with a bright future but dont insult Urban Meyer!!!

  
  No I'm not comparing Davault to Urban....this is football coaching 101.
• Red Rider Nation

  OQB;1282961 wrote:No I'm not comparing Davault to Urban....this is football coaching 101.

  Oh ya OK - Im sure too is taking the only kid out that shows up to play each week! Coaching 101 I got it now! Thanks!
• OQB

  

  Red Rider Nation;1282964 wrote:Oh ya OK - Im sure too is taking the only kid out that shows up to play each week! Coaching 101 I got it now! Thanks!

  Glad I could help you out.
  
  #sticktocoachingbaseball
• Red Rider Nation

  OQB;1282966 wrote:Glad I could help you out.
  
  #sticktocoachingbaseball

  
  Really OQB? If you keep this awesome posting up you will be getting more reps then you did when you were the OQB! You werntz even the best on your team!!!
• OQB

  

  Haha, I never said I was.
  
  
  Good comeback though, reps for effort!