Week 12...Norwayne Bobcats vs. Orrville Red Riders

• THE4RINGZ

  

  OQB;960959 wrote:Just trollin the Rider threads tryin to bunch some panties up

  Like taking candy from a baby.
• OQB

  

  THE4RINGZ;960967 wrote:Like taking candy from a baby.

  
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• ArrowGrad02

  

  Just win Riders!!!!
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• thePITman

  

  RedRider1;960853 wrote:I hate to nit pick but I disagree with this. Monheim, Davis and Brenner have played significant roles each of the past 3 seasons for Orrville. This will be their 9th playoff game. The Norwayne seniors are playing in their 4th playoff game. To me...that's significant.
  
  This will be the 3rd straight year Orrville has played in a week 12 game and will be the 3rd time theyve played at Medina in the last 15 games.
  
  Orrville knows the atmosphere, the venue and the magnitude of these games....and we know how to win them too (see 2009 vs. Genoa, 2010 vs. Elyria Cath....both week 12 games.)

  I'm with RR1 on this one. Some of these Orrville kids have played some important roles on past years' teams. Plus, there's something special about getting to the state semifinals and coming back the next year REALLY wanting it. I remember my Junior year we lost in "just" week 12, and the hunger to do something the next year was immense (although we were really bad the next year, my bad!). I can only imagine the level of hunger in Orrville after state semifinal and regional final losses. Having gone to some big Orrville playoff games myself in the last few years, including seeing them beat Genoa in person, there is something special when Orrville takes the field in a BIG game. Everyone knows me and knows that I'm not the biggest fan of Orrville because they are our greatest rival, but I (and everyone) have to respect the way they go about their business and the way DaVault prepares them... and their "swag" (I can't believe I just said that) is real. Outside of one player who has a "bad" version of that swag and intentionally harmed and taunted our players in our last few games against them, I think the rest of Orrville's team takes on the big game the right way... it's a pleasure watching them in the biggest of atmospheres.
  
  That being said, Norwayne has proven they are one heck of a team, and that is NOT to be discounted. As others have said, these two teams are very similar in a lot of ways, and it will come down to preparation this week in practice and then execution on Saturday night. Of course, Orrville has the edge in playoff experience and strength of schedule, but Norwayne has done mighty fine against those they have played. I'm excited for this game! I think both teams are "the real deal" and hope for a great game this weekend!
  

  OQB;960959 wrote:Just trollin the Rider threads tryin to bunch some panties up

  THE4RINGZ;960967 wrote:Like taking candy from a baby.

  I laughed out loud. :laugh:
• Mr. 300

  

  Hey Ringz, we are waiting for that rah-rah update. Please tell all the OC folks what went down today!!
• OQB

  

  That's why they play the games! Right Ringz?
• dontcare

  

  Bloody Toothbrush;960292 wrote:
  
  On Orrville/Norwayne.....
  I'd list Norwayne as a 14 point underdog. I just hope it's a good game.

  I'll take Norwayne +14 for a dime......:thumbup:
• ridernation

  Toot your own horn Mr. 300, we all know how WH did.
• 1_beast

  

  Orrville will more than likely get the win...but I dont think its due to being more athletic....I think its COACHING. I have been in Orrville stands a few times....and I really do not like Norwayne...
  
  Truth is...I dont care who wins....Orrville wins...we gotta listen to you fans run your mouth.... Norwayne wins and they are the best since sliced bread...as much as i dislike Norwayne....I think Orrville eating crow is more appealing to me. LOL
• OQB

  

  The team that shows up and executes will win the game. Both schools are here for a reason and they both have what it takes to win the game. Now it's on those young men to go out and execute.
• Red Right 21

  

  dontcare;961022 wrote:I'll take Norwayne +14 for a dime......:thumbup:

  The Bobcats are 10-1, they are by far the better team. Orrville is luckey to be 8-3 and they will need as much help and luck as possible to even be in the game after half time.
• THE4RINGZ

  

  OQB;961017 wrote:That's why they play the games! Right Ringz?

  
  
  
  Bingo
• irshrider

  Whew! The smell of testosterone is pretty heavy in here. You boys are a hoot, soooooo glad we play the game and just dont phone in the results. Thanks boys y'all make OC worth the read. GO RIDERS. Play your game keep it classy and things will fall into place
• Mookie22

  Why do so many orrville ppl think this will be a cake walk? And orrville is so superior?
• OQB

  

  Mookie22;961104 wrote:Why do so many orrville ppl think this will be a cake walk? And orrville is so superior?

  Who said this is going to be a cake walk?
• 1_beast

  

  I like cake!!!
• madman11

  Orrville by a lot
• dontcare

  

  I dout Oville has seen the speed and Defense this year that they are going to see against the Cats. I like the Cats a lot in this game.
• RedRider1

  

  1486wd;960896 wrote:i do think orrville will win this game, but I also think they feel more pressure to do so.

  Yes we do....this is a no-win situation for us. Win big and we're picking on a county school. Win close and we're not that good. Lose and we never hear the end of it.
  
  We've played against 2 county schools since 1963...an 8-6 loss to Northwestern in 1966, and 29-0 win over Norwayne in 1981. Two games in 55 years. Waynedale and Smithville have NEVER played us....so to the WCAL, we're the great white whale.
• RedRider1

  

  thePITman;961012 wrote:I'm with RR1 on this one. Some of these Orrville kids have played some important roles on past years' teams. Plus, there's something special about getting to the state semifinals and coming back the next year REALLY wanting it. I remember my Junior year we lost in "just" week 12, and the hunger to do something the next year was immense (although we were really bad the next year, my bad!). I can only imagine the level of hunger in Orrville after state semifinal and regional final losses. Having gone to some big Orrville playoff games myself in the last few years, including seeing them beat Genoa in person, there is something special when Orrville takes the field in a BIG game. Everyone knows me and knows that I'm not the biggest fan of Orrville because they are our greatest rival, but I (and everyone) have to respect the way they go about their business and the way DaVault prepares them... and their "swag" (I can't believe I just said that) is real. Outside of one player who has a "bad" version of that swag and intentionally harmed and taunted our players in our last few games against them, I think the rest of Orrville's team takes on the big game the right way... it's a pleasure watching them in the biggest of atmospheres.

  Well said Pit. Appreciate the candor.
• 1_beast

  

  LOL man I wish it was Waynedale or Smithville playing...I would have an easier time cheering for the WCAL school....ughhhh
  
  Where's Paul? Im sure he has some valuable insight!
  
  I have to really consider what side to sit on.....
  
  I mean Norwayne is slow, small unathletic...havent played anyone....Orrville may get a better game out of The Blind Sisters of The Poor Seminary School of Cultural Arts!!!!
• dontcare

  

  1_beast;961187 wrote:LOL man I wish it was Waynedale or Smithville playing...I would have an easier time cheering for the WCAL school....ughhhh
  
  Where's Paul? Im sure he has some valuable insight!
  
  I have to really consider what side to sit on.....
  
  I mean Norwayne is slow, small unathletic...havent played anyone....Orrville may get a better game out of The Blind Sisters of The Poor Seminary School of Cultural Arts!!!!

  I think Norwayne played their 7th and 8th graders in the 2nd half of the Waynedale game this year......thats just what I heard.....lol
• OQB

  

  Anyone has to be naive to think Orrville is just going to show up and curb stomp Norwayne....Both teams are here for a reason and the team that executes will win...simple as that.
  
  
  All this bs and people trying to stir the pot/piss people off is getting old!
  
  
  Why can't we just talk about the game instead of all the stuff surrounding the game?
• 1_beast

  

  dontcare;961190 wrote:I think Norwayne played their 7th and 8th graders in the 2nd half of the Waynedale game this year......thats just what I heard.....lol

  
  I heard that too...
  

  OQB;961194 wrote:Anyone has to be naive to think Orrville is just going to show up and curb stomp Norwayne....Both teams are here for a reason and the team that executes will win...simple as that.
  
  
  All this bs and people trying to stir the pot/piss people off is getting old!
  
  
  Why can't we just talk about the game instead of all the stuff surrounding the game?

  LMAO it THE OC Baby...2 years of Bliss and NOW you wannaget serious....fuggetaboutit
• OQB

  

  Here are my comparisons and how I see them.
  
  Coaching: Orrville BY FAR! Harbour and his entire staff is under 30 years old and do not make adjustments well....inexperience in these types of games I think will play a part in the outcome.
  
  Defensively: Orrville, but if our offense plays like they have at times this year (penalties, turnovers, negative plays), Norwayne has the guys to shut us down, when we're down. Norwayne has shut out good and bad D IV/V/VI teams...We have shut down good and bad D. II and III teams...who have a few recruits making plays for them.
  
  Offensively: I would say this is a tie. We have seen just how good our offense can be (Northwest, Triway, Lexington, Wooster, Labrae) and we have seen what happens when we don't show up (Copley, Senior, Ashland) Norwayne has put up numbers that are really eye popping, but they really got slowed down when they actually played playoff caliber teams in Hillsdale and Smithville....but they also put up 42 against Brookfield
  
  Key matchups this week:
  
  Wallace is a very good athlete and has had an outstanding career for the Bobcats...we have seen better QB's though in the past 2 seasons.... he is not as good as Fuller, better runner than Carmichael, but not as good passer, Elyria QB was better passer, Northwest QB is better passer. The thing with Wallace is you have to get pressure and make him uncomfortable. Smithville and Hillsdale were able to get a lot of pressure on him and make him throw off balanced and sacked him quite a few times. That will be key....I could see White and Lemon having a a great game getting pressure....along with the other front 7. Where Wallace beats you is with his feet, again deceptively fast, but nothing that makes me worried....we just have to be able to tackle him and not let him have YAC....because he can break tackles. I see him more as a RB that can throw than a QB that can run. Has a good arm, but accuracy isn't great. I can't wait to see how he takes a hit from Mason haha!
  
  Will the Zimmerly brothers be able to run on our defense? We have shut down every running game we have played this season, and I think it continues this week. Both boys are deceptively fast, but nothing we haven't seen before (maybe like WH rb's) they like to run over people, but have been able to get to the edge in the wcal. It will be important to get them down on first contact and not let them get YAC.
  
  Offensive lines are very similar....in size and ability. Both lines have gone against big lines all year and have done a pretty good job with protection and blocking
  
  WR's: Norwayne has 1 really fast athlete...Kaleb Harris who is only a sophomore. He is about 6'3" and probably is a 4.6 guy.. He is their return man, safety, and subs in at WR. Other than him I think the receivers are good, but nothing we haven't seen before.......Northwest, Copley, Ashland, and Lexington all have better athletes at WR imo.
  
  Kicking game: Orrville by far.....this is their weakness and have struggled all year in the kicking game. Haven't really kicked deep in the games I've seen and like to onside, or pooch kick. Dylan and Drew could come up big for us this week. with field position. Turner obviously is the fastest guy on the field...he can make anything happen if he gets the ball.
  
  
  Key for Orrville is to shut the run game down, if we do that imo....they will be in trouble.