Orrville Red Rider Football 2011

• Redblood63

  5knots;904374 wrote:First of all. If there was a chance he could screw his knee up any more than he already has the doctors would not let him play at all and just fix it. So the coaches do not have to make a decision based on that at all. The decision that has to be made is what is Matt capable of doing with the brace on. Hey, if he us our best H back then he will play H. If he is our best Will linebacker he plays Will. If he is the best at both if those then let him play both. Him not getting hurt has to be thrown out if the equation Especially in his own mind. Yesterday was a good test for him with a wet field and poor traction. He looked good out there. I saw him limp a little after one play but that could have been anything. He was adjusting his brace occasionally looking fir the best fit.

  wasn't trying to sound like a doctor or coach, didn't know all the facts on injury. I would hate to see him hurt the knee again thats all.
• ECOLace

  Why doesn't Orrville play Dover anymore, those were always great games.
• Redblood63

  ECOLace;904798 wrote:Why doesn't Orrville play Dover anymore, those were always great games.

  I agree that was a great series, always enjoyed going to dover great football atmosphere. Would love to see us drop triway and add dover. Nine out of ten times triway never helps much in computer points anyway.
• OFB

  

  5knots;904440 wrote:^^^And that right there is a luxury that can take us a long way^^^^ I agree with you 100% Old Rider, you play on our eleven because the staff feels you can give us the best chance of being successful. PERIOD. No Rich Daddy/poor Daddy/ no Daddy/ crap in our program...contrary to what one guy thinks. Go Riders....let's get win # 592 Friday.

  I agree with you 100% 5 knots. Thats why the Rider football program is so successful....play the best 11 players...period!
• Series62

  Old Rider;903404 wrote:I didn't take it as a personal insult, but I took it as a bash on our kids and that made me upset. Was Lex a tough opponent? I think that they are much bigger than us and we have to play well every year to compete with them. Beating them is great comp points and thats all that matters. Just dont bash a WIN. A compliment to the kids would be nice every once in a while.
  
  As far as being worshipped or glorified when you put a uniform on...you never put one on personally so you don't know what your talking about. There IS something special about putting that RED/WHITE/BLACK uniform on on Firday nights. Ask anyone who played what it meant to them, but nobody has ever said those words worshipped/glorified...only you.
  
  
  How's Tiffany doing?

  Why was it a personal insult to say that the victory was over an opponent that wasn't that good. Can you honestly say that was a hard fought game? Lex was bigger! And Lex was much slower.
  
  No I didn't put on the red, black and white on Friday nights! And I taught my sons that the uniform does make you who you are...that belongs to Jesus!
  
  You didn't have to say worshipped/glorified, I said it because that's how many of you sound. My son enjoyed much success as a track athlete, the red,black and white nor the name blessed him with speed, God did that!
  
  The school, the team, the colors were blessed to have people like him, Monheim, Hobbler, Robinson's, Zwuick, Ray and especially Denson to step into that uniform.
  
  And to that end...you and more of you that put on that uniform on Friday night should be "INSULTED" that one of your best isn't in your own Hall of Fame!
  
  I used to be great supporter of Orrville athletics, and I've recognized the favoritism and bias since I've lived here and attended various sporting events.
  Some will deny it, but I'm not the only one that sees it, read some of the other comments.
  
  Tiffany's doing good and enjoying Germany. Supposed to be home for Christmas.
• BRF

  

  Series62;904845 wrote:Why was it a personal insult to say that the victory was over an opponent that wasn't that good. Can you honestly say that was a hard fought game? Lex was bigger! And Lex was much slower.
  
  No I didn't put on the red, black and white on Friday nights! And I taught my sons that the uniform does make you who you are...that belongs to Jesus!
  
  You didn't have to say worshipped/glorified, I said it because that's how many of you sound. My son enjoyed much success as a track athlete, the red,black and white nor the name blessed him with speed, God did that!
  
  The school, the team, the colors were blessed to have people like him, Monheim, Hobbler, Robinson's, Zwuick, Ray and especially Denson to step into that uniform.
  
  And to that end...you and more of you that put on that uniform on Friday night should be "INSULTED" that one of your best isn't in your own Hall of Fame!

  Make some edits and then I will post the "beating of the dead horse".
• 5knots

  

  Redblood63;904797 wrote:wasn't trying to sound like a doctor or coach, didn't know all the facts on injury. I would hate to see him hurt the knee again thats all.

  And I was not trying to sound like I was lecturing,,,sorry if it came across that way.
• OQB

  

  Series62;904845 wrote:And I taught my sons that the uniform does make you who you are...that belongs to Jesus!

  
  
  
  Jesus likes to wear Red and White....
  
  
  
• 5knots

  

  I can't speak for other sports. But there is no favoritism or bias in the football program. God has given many certain abilities whose potential is never realized. To that I credit the emphasis our coaches and the kid's own peers to expect more of yourself is where the difference lay here. jmo.
• OQB

  

  5knots;904866 wrote:I can't speak for other sports. But there is no favoritism or bias in the football program. God has given many certain abilities whose potential is never realized. To that I credit the emphasis our coaches and the kid's own peers to expect more of yourself is where the difference lay here. jmo.

  Well said!
• BRF

  

  Here.............just copy and paste wherever any of you feel it's appropriate on this thread:
  
  
• OQB

  

  ECOLace;904798 wrote:Why doesn't Orrville play Dover anymore, those were always great games.

  I wish we would reschedule Dover in week 2 as well. Loved playing at their field and it was always a great game against two good football teams.
• Series62

  5knots;904866 wrote:I can't speak for other sports. But there is no favoritism or bias in the football program. God has given many certain abilities whose potential is never realized. To that I credit the emphasis our coaches and the kid's own peers to expect more of yourself is where the difference lay here. jmo.

  To "expect more of yourself" can become pointless to some players if they 're not given a fair opportunity. And it happens in football also.
• Series62

  OQB;904862 wrote:.........
  
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  oqb.......the Lord is not something or someone to play with.
• 1_beast

  

  Series62;904938 wrote:To "expect more of yourself" can become pointless to some players if they 're not given a fair opportunity. And it happens in football also.

  Dear Baby Jesus,
  
  In your gold loin cloth....please stop this mans insanity. Give him the peace of mind to stop the envy....release the hate...end the jealous rants.
  
  Amen
  
  Hope this help
• Series62

  1_buster...the Lord is not something or someone to play with.
• riders1

  

  ECOLace;904798 wrote:Why doesn't Orrville play Dover anymore, those were always great games.

  Seems that I heard they wanted to beef up their nonleague schedule and when we dropped to D4 from D3 the thought they would gain more from playing someone else in week 2 and have had D2 Avon Lake and D2 Ashland instead.
• 1_beast

  

  Series62;905014 wrote:1_buster...the Lord is not something or someone to play with.

  DO NOT make fun of my name or my FAITH kind Sir!!!!
  
  Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged! Matt 7:1 Follow that up with Matt 7:2-5
  
  Hope this helps...
  
  Back to Football
• OQB

  

  riders1;905034 wrote:Seems that I heard they wanted to beef up their nonleague schedule and when we dropped to D4 from D3 the thought they would gain more from playing someone else in week 2 and have had D2 Avon Lake and D2 Ashland instead.

  
  It's funny though, because the Dover faithful actually are saying the same things we are....we want Orrville back on the schedule...etc.
• OQB

  

  1_beast;905037 wrote:DO NOT make fun of my name or my FAITH kind Sir!!!!
  
  Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged! Matt 7:1 Follow that up with Matt 7:2-5
  
  Hope this helps...
  
  Back to Football

  you beat me to it beast..but what a great verse.
• Red Rider Nation

  Redblood63;904337 wrote:I could not disagree more he needs to play defense only. Playing running back is how he was hurt to begin with , one hard cut or hit to knee and his playing is done. He is going to play linebacker in college not running back. There is no need to jepordize his future by having him running the ball.

  Are you saying he could not have got hurt on defense? That was just how it was meant to be. Our biggest question marks are not on defense they are on offense. When Mason is the only back in the backfield we are very predictable. If Mason could be a lead blocker for Matt Davis that could produce even more yards on the ground. I wouldnt break up the mojo on defense. As far as college, you are right he will play defense but with all due respect that can wait till next year. He gives us the best chance to win on the offensive side of the ball.
• Red Rider Nation

  Series62;904845 wrote:Why was it a personal insult to say that the victory was over an opponent that wasn't that good. Can you honestly say that was a hard fought game? Lex was bigger! And Lex was much slower.
  
  No I didn't put on the red, black and white on Friday nights! And I taught my sons that the uniform does make you who you are...that belongs to Jesus!
  
  You didn't have to say worshipped/glorified, I said it because that's how many of you sound. My son enjoyed much success as a track athlete, the red,black and white nor the name blessed him with speed, God did that!
  
  The school, the team, the colors were blessed to have people like him, Monheim, Hobbler, Robinson's, Zwuick, Ray and especially Denson to step into that uniform.
  
  And to that end...you and more of you that put on that uniform on Friday night should be "INSULTED" that one of your best isn't in your own Hall of Fame!
  
  I used to be great supporter of Orrville athletics, and I've recognized the favoritism and bias since I've lived here and attended various sporting events.
  Some will deny it, but I'm not the only one that sees it, read some of the other comments.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  You call yourself an Orrville guy and you cant even spell the last names right? Hobbler? Zwuick? Dont insult our town, our program, and most importantly our tradition!!!

• madman11

  Didn't know this was the religion thread...love reading it and i PRAY Orrville and Norwayne meet in the play offs just to see the Riders beat the crap out of those Bobcats
• 5knots

  

  Red Rider Nation;905083 wrote:Are you saying he could not have got hurt on defense? That was just how it was meant to be. Our biggest question marks are not on defense they are on offense. When Mason is the only back in the backfield we are very predictable. If Mason could be a lead blocker for Matt Davis that could produce even more yards on the ground. I wouldnt break up the mojo on defense. As far as college, you are right he will play defense but with all due respect that can wait till next year. He gives us the best chance to win on the offensive side of the ball.

  After Mason showed what he is capable of at tailback you would really move him back to fullback to block for Matt? That one sounds a little iffy. I like the way Mason can do damage with a head of steam. I would keep the preseason plan of Mason at tail, and Matt at fullback. We get Zook back maybe week 8 or so. That gives us another option on the back field as well.
• RedRider1

  

  5knots;904866 wrote:I can't speak for other sports. But there is no favoritism or bias in the football program. God has given many certain abilities whose potential is never realized. To that I credit the emphasis our coaches and the kid's own peers to expect more of yourself is where the difference lay here. jmo.

  +1
  
  And opportunities are earned, not given.