Reds Season 2016

• SportsAndLady

  

  JJ Hoover optioned to Louisville.
• Heretic

  

  Ironman92;1801754 wrote:This may be the most difficult thing I've ever had to fathom..but no pitcher in Reds history has given up more grand slams than J.J. Hoover

  So that's why one of my buddies posted something on FB to the effect that he's a great pitcher...for the other team.
• Azubuike24

  

  Playing very well lately. Almost doing as well as the Braves!
• thavoice

  Believe it was prior to the cubs series they were .500 for June.
  
  Reed got rocked today.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Kris Bryant destroys the Reds.
  
  Also, no clue why I watch.
• mhs95_06

  Is today the first time in MLB history that two players from the same ream hit homers whose last names ended in "art"?
• Ironman92

  

  mhs95_06;1802617 wrote:Is today the first time in MLB history that two players from the same ream hit homers whose last names ended in "art"?

  lol what? I'm good at trivia...and random crap but not quite sure on that one
  
  There have been two Addisons in MLB history and they faced each other today if that helps.
• Ironman92

  

  Brandon Phillips now 213 consecutive at bats without a HR
• Ironman92

  

  Ironman92;1802934 wrote:Brandon Phillips now 213 consecutive at bats without a HR

  And starting over Peraza who they have to get an extended look at! Now has a hairline fracture in his hand but by god he's a gamer.
• Azubuike24

  

  There's nobody I want shipped out faster than BP, and of course, he breaks a bone in his hand. Whether he plays through it or not, just knowing it, lessens his trade value (not that he has much).
  
  Cozart, Phillips, Bruce and Duvall, get what you can for all of them.
• Ironman92

  

  Azubuike24;1802954 wrote:There's nobody I want shipped out faster than BP, and of course, he breaks a bone in his hand. Whether he plays through it or not, just knowing it, lessens his trade value (not that he has much).
  
  Cozart, Phillips, Bruce and Duvall, get what you can for all of them.

  Why keep Votto?
• Ironman92

  

  Also....Aroldis Chapman pitched 2 1/3 innings today and got the win
• SportsAndLady

  

  Disagree with trading Duvall and even Cozart
• Azubuike24

  

  Cozart is 30. Unless he's as good as he has showed this year (the rest of his career says otherwise), would you really consider paying him when he's a FA? He's arb eligible and likely will see a big salary increase. Andrelton Simmons is a comparable player (Cozart a better hitter, Simmons a better fielder) and he's going to be making 13, 15 and 15M in the next 3 years. No thanks.
  
  I don't necessarily advocate keeping Votto, but I'd be shocked if anyone is interested in a 1B having a down year who still has EIGHT YEARS at 25M left on his contract.
  
  Have to trade Duvall now? No. However, see Todd Frazier. A late blooming guy who won't hit FA until he's near 30 years old and if he keeps it up, will be expecting to get paid. So, one of two things happens. One, Duvall is legit, prices himself well out of the Reds price range and he's traded in 2-3 years before he can hit FA, rather deal him when he has 3 full years of team control left. Two, Duvall's 2016 is a fluke and he regresses, the Reds miss the window to deal him and you have a potential asset that loses a ton of value. The Reds aren't going to truly contend for at least 2-3 more years, so unless you see enough in Adam Duvall to project him as a starter in 2018 and beyond, why not deal him?
  
  If anything, Bruce is the safest and least likely I would trade. He's never going to be insane where his value is super high, but he's also an original Red who has been pretty consistent. He's only 29 and could conceivably deliver 5-6 more years as a back-end of the heart of a lineup for a decent team.
• Heretic

  

  Ironman92;1802959 wrote:Why keep Votto?

  Probably because no one with any sanity would want to be saddled with his contract now that he's declined from "MVP" to "pretty good".
• Ironman92

  

  Nationals have to be ecstatic Phillips turned them down.
  
  Phillips hitting .255 and Daniel Murphy hitting .355
  
  Phillips with 6 HR total and Murphy with 7 HR versus the Mets.
• Azubuike24

  

  Cody Reed unimpressive again. Reds almost caught up for the worst record. Just a game back of Atlanta.
• Ironman92

  

  Votto and Phillips are terrible terrible leaders.
  
  Votto just stood flat footed as Barnhart badly missed a ball and Barnhart stood up and then took 7 steps hustling towards ball before Votto even broke a step to help his teammate out.
  
  Deep fly to RF either a HR or catch by Stanton and Votto is standing in the middle of 2nd and 3rd....made a terrible toss to Reed.
  
  Phillips leads the world in getting thrown out running bases SMH
  
  Never going to get a look a Peraza, gotta get the counting stats while they lose 98
• Azubuike24

  

  Reds enter the break 32-57, a game behind the Braves.
  
  It's tough to find positives, but a few of note. Anthony DeSclafani, Raisel Iglesias, Tony Cingrani (since taking over as closer) and Michael Lorenzen have all been solid. Something to build on. Dan Straily has come back to earth, as predicted. Offensively, there really aren't any complaints given how bad the team is.
  
  Definitely not liking how it's looking for Brandon Finnegan, Cody Reed and John Lamb. The first two had big expectations and aren't really delivering. Finnegan, I said it all along, needs another pitch and needs to improve on his control, otherwise, he should b a closer, not a starter. The Reds are dead set on starting him, for whatever reason.
  
  Excited to Stephenson, Winker and Peraza in the second half. It will be nice to get some clarity on what the roster will look like next year, hopefully not including Phillips and Cozart.
• Ironman92

  

  Azubuike24;1803007 wrote:Reds enter the break 32-57, a game behind the Braves.
  
  It's tough to find positives, but a few of note. Anthony DeSclafani, Raisel Iglesias, Tony Cingrani (since taking over as closer) and Michael Lorenzen have all been solid. Something to build on. Dan Straily has come back to earth, as predicted. Offensively, there really aren't any complaints given how bad the team is.
  
  Definitely not liking how it's looking for Brandon Finnegan, Cody Reed and John Lamb. The first two had big expectations and aren't really delivering. Finnegan, I said it all along, needs another pitch and needs to improve on his control, otherwise, he should b a closer, not a starter. The Reds are dead set on starting him, for whatever reason.
  
  Excited to Stephenson, Winker and Peraza in the second half. It will be nice to get some clarity on what the roster will look like next year, hopefully not including Phillips and Cozart.

  How are you going to get to see Peraza? Phillips gotta play every day
• Azubuike24

  

  Might take until August, but hopefully Phillips is dealt. If not, well, I don't know what to say.
• thavoice

  Azubuike24;1803007 wrote:Reds enter the break 32-57, a game behind the Braves.
  
  It's tough to find positives, but a few of note. Anthony DeSclafani, Raisel Iglesias, Tony Cingrani (since taking over as closer) and Michael Lorenzen have all been solid. Something to build on. Dan Straily has come back to earth, as predicted. Offensively, there really aren't any complaints given how bad the team is.
  
  Definitely not liking how it's looking for Brandon Finnegan, Cody Reed and John Lamb. The first two had big expectations and aren't really delivering. Finnegan, I said it all along, needs another pitch and needs to improve on his control, otherwise, he should b a closer, not a starter. The Reds are dead set on starting him, for whatever reason.
  
  Excited to Stephenson, Winker and Peraza in the second half. It will be nice to get some clarity on what the roster will look like next year, hopefully not including Phillips and Cozart.

  Reed def has a big upside with his stuff and I expect him to rebound and still excited for his future. Phillips stock has def dwindled...has 10 or more errors already, so hopefully someone would still want him and I bet he agrees to a trade now if it is to someone decent.
• Ironman92

  

  Reds on pace for 73-0 post ASB
• Ironman92

  

  Billy Hamilton is so god damn fast. Good pitching today and a good series win.
• Azubuike24

  

  Our general manager, folks. Clapping after a Cardinals victory over Miami on July 16th, 2016.