2016 Browns Season Thread

• Commander of Awesome

  

  shook_17;1771657 wrote:No way a quality GM comes here and gets stuck with Pettine. Wont happen, so if the keep farmer they are going to promote from within. If Pettine stays O'Niel has to go

  HighRoller74;1771665 wrote:This was really all you needed to say. Cleveland will not get a known GM regardless of who the coach is or is not. We will be stuck with a retread or a young up-and-coming guy trying to make his mark where he couldn't care less of who his head coaches the front office is such a dumpster fire anyone proving will not touch it unless they have Cleveland hometown ties.

  These are based on what exactly? We've gotten Savage, Heckert, and Holmgren in here. All of which were "top candidates".
  
  Homlgren and Heckert came here and kept womangini. It's possible.
• Laley23

  

  I might be the only person who thinks Connor Cook is going to be a very good pro. Everyone I talk to thinks he will suck (with a few OKs). Lol
• Lovejoy1984

  

  And outside of Holmgren, they were all guys looking to make their make in the league, and get their first job as "the Man", which is what I claimed was possible.
  
  I don't see us getting a highly sought after, well known GM. With the quick trigger that Haslam, has shown these guys aren't going to risk coming here, and not getting immediate results, and being shown the door.
• Lovejoy1984

  

  Laley23;1771672 wrote:I might be the only person who thinks Connor Cook is going to be a very good pro. Everyone I talk to thinks he will suck (with a few OKs). Lol

  The biggest red-flag I have with him, is he doesn't have the leadership qualities needed for a Top QB.
• Laley23

  

  HighRoller74;1771674 wrote:The biggest red-flag I have with him, is he doesn't have the leadership qualities needed for a Top QB.

  I haven't gotten to sit down and watch MSU with that keen of an eye to be judging something like that, but curious as to what you see (or don't see)??
• SportsAndLady

  

  Laley23;1771675 wrote:I haven't gotten to sit down and watch MSU with that keen of an eye to be judging something like that, but curious as to what you see (or don't see)??

  Well he is an all American senior QB and wasn't voted a team captain lol so that's a start.
• Lovejoy1984

  

  Laley23;1771675 wrote:I haven't gotten to sit down and watch MSU with that keen of an eye to be judging something like that, but curious as to what you see (or don't see)??

  SportsAndLady;1771676 wrote:Well he is an all American senior QB and wasn't voted a team captain lol so that's a start.

  Pretty much this.
• Sonofanump

  like_that;1771638 wrote:That tells me they are ok to roll out Jff next season.

  Maybe I misunderstand you, I think Farmer was the JFF champion and Petite was reluctant to start such a erratic player.
• like_that

  

  Sonofanump;1771687 wrote:Maybe I misunderstand you, I think Farmer was the JFF champion and Petite was reluctant to start such a erratic player.

  Just speculating if they keep Pettine they would tell him he needs to roll with Jff next year and not play revolving penis flickers with the QB position.
• BR1986FB

  HighRoller74;1771674 wrote:The biggest red-flag I have with him, is he doesn't have the leadership qualities needed for a Top QB.

  Serviceable backup, just like Johnny.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  BR1986FB;1771690 wrote:Serviceable backup, just like Johnny.

  Radio tell you this?
• Commander of Awesome

  

  HighRoller74;1771673 wrote:And outside of Holmgren, they were all guys looking to make their make in the league, and get their first job as "the Man", which is what I claimed was possible.
  
  I don't see us getting a highly sought after, well known GM. With the quick trigger that Haslam, has shown these guys aren't going to risk coming here, and not getting immediate results, and being shown the door.

  Well if they're a "high sought after" GM, that would mean they're proven and successful correct? If they're proven and successful, they already have a job with a proven and successful organization. Why would they leave to make a lateral move? This arguement/QQing going on in this thread is asinine. Might as well say, lets sign Tom Brady, a proven and successful QB. There's a reason you don't see Ozzie Newsome leave the Ravens for fucks sakes.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Commander of Awesome;1771698 wrote:Well if they're a "high sought after" GM, that would mean they're proven and successful correct? If they're proven and successful, they already have a job with a proven and successful organization. Why would they leave to make a lateral move? This arguement/QQing going on in this thread is asinine. Might as well say, lets sign Tom Brady, a proven and successful QB. There's a reason you don't see Ozzie Newsome leave the Ravens for fucks sakes.

  Agree with this.
  
  There's probably 7 highly sought after GM's in the NFL, no shit the Browns aren't going to get one.
  
  Now, that being said, I think there will be some sought after HC's that I think the Browns lose out on (if they do Fire Pettine, which they should).
• Commander of Awesome

  

  SportsAndLady;1771700 wrote:Agree with this.
  
  There's probably 7 highly sought after GM's in the NFL, no shit the Browns aren't going to get one.
  
  Now, that being said, I think there will be some sought after HC's that I think the Browns lose out on (if they do Fire Pettine, which they should).

  Thinking about some of the "big" FA Coaches we have missed on. Chip, LOL. Doug Marrone, LOL. Trestman? LOL
  
  Bunch of QQing woe is me going on in this thread.
• like_that

  

  Commander of Awesome;1771701 wrote:Thinking about some of the "big" FA Coaches we have missed on. Chip, LOL. Doug Marrone, LOL. Trestman? LOL
  
  Bunch of QQing woe is me going on in this thread.

  LOL good point. You won't see the media coming back to say they were wrong about them and for giving the Browns a hard time during their hiring process though.
• like_that

  

  SportsAndLady;1771700 wrote:Agree with this.
  
  There's probably 7 highly sought after GM's in the NFL, no shit the Browns aren't going to get one.
  
  Now, that being said, I think there will be some sought after HC's that I think the Browns lose out on (if they do Fire Pettine, which they should).

  I don't think they should fire pettine for the sole reason of continuity. The Browns have a bad enough reputation in terms of stability. It might be taking a step backward, but in the long run it might have the franchise by giving pettine a third year.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  like_that;1771703 wrote:I don't think they should fire pettine for the sole reason of continuity. The Browns have a bad enough reputation in terms of stability. It might be taking a step backward, but in the long run it might have the franchise by giving pettine a third year.

  Yeah, I'm firmly in the keep petty pett camp. One thing I might take away from him, game day rosters. He's a fucking imbecile with that. Oh and DC has to go. Farmer, I could care less, he's done nothing to make me say keep him but I don't care if he stays. I want scouts to stay though. Revamping scouting system is hard on an organization.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Commander of Awesome;1771701 wrote:Thinking about some of the "big" FA Coaches we have missed on. Chip, LOL. Doug Marrone, LOL. Trestman? LOL
  
  Bunch of QQing woe is me going on in this thread.

  Off the top of my head, Mike zimmer and Bruce Arians were supposed to be Browns HC candidates.
  
  I'm not QQ'ing you fucking moron. The Browns never get the "right" head coach.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  SportsAndLady;1771716 wrote:Off the top of my head, Mike zimmer and Bruce Arians were supposed to be Browns HC candidates.
  
  I'm not QQ'ing you fucking moron. The Browns never get the "right" head coach.

  No one said you were QQing little guy. It was highroller and br QQing.
  
  As for Zimmer, right there with you. You, like_that, and myself to name a few wanted him. However to my knowledge we passed or didn't even interview him smh (same as Arians). Thus he didn't spurn us, aka turn us down. Which was my point. Chip, strung us along to increase his salary with the iggles.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Commander of Awesome;1771732 wrote:No one said you were QQing little guy. It was highroller and br QQing.
  
  As for Zimmer, right there with you. You, like_that, and myself to name a few wanted him. However to my knowledge we passed or didn't even interview him smh (same as Arians). Thus he didn't spurn us, aka turn us down. Which was my point. Chip, strung us along to increase his salary with the iggles.

  My bad it sounded like you were saying the QQ thing to me when I said we won't get top notch HC candidates.
  
  I think we did interview Arians, but we got too butthurt when he told us what was wrong with the franchise and he walked out. Smh
• Lovejoy1984

  

  Commander of Awesome;1771732 wrote:No one said you were QQing little guy. It was highroller and br QQing.
  
  As for Zimmer, right there with you. You, like_that, and myself to name a few wanted him. However to my knowledge we passed or didn't even interview him smh (same as Arians). Thus he didn't spurn us, aka turn us down. Which was my point. Chip, strung us along to increase his salary with the iggles.

  If I recall correctly, we interviewed him....he told the Hiring group all the stuff wrong with the organization, and we didn't bring him back for a 2nd.
• Ironman92

  

  SportsAndLady;1771741 wrote:My bad it sounded like you were saying the QQ thing to me when I said we won't get top notch HC candidates.
  
  I think we did interview Arians, but we got too butthurt when he told us what was wrong with the franchise and he walked out. Smh

  He is well known for speaking his mind....could see him doing that
• Commander of Awesome

  

  HighRoller74;1771743 wrote:If I recall correctly, we interviewed him....he told the Hiring group all the stuff wrong with the organization, and we didn't bring him back for a 2nd.

  I remember that store, wasn't sure who if it was Wizenhunt or Zimmer. Didn't Arians basically beg for an interview and we say nah bc Lerner had a chub for Womangini?
• BR1986FB

  Let's see what Pettine does, if anything, with this.....
  
  http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25429805/another-johnny-manziel-drinking-video-emerges-could-result-in-browns-punishment?FTAG=YHF7e3228e
  
  If he benches him again, I'd say that is pretty petty.
• Lovejoy1984

  

  As long as Manziel doesn't lie to him about it, I think nothing will happen.