Ravens at Browns
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BR1986FB
Had they not won a couple of nail biters against Miami, Jax & Seattle in 2011, they would've been right in it for Luck. I even looked back at the dreaded 2009 "Season of Mangini" when they started 1-11 before winning the last 4 games and even if they would've went 1-15 the overall #1 pick was Sam Bradford. Can't seem to have that perfect storm.Commander of Awesome;1765502 wrote:Fuck how did that post? I started typing did some research saw I didn't remember correctly and closed the browser.
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shook_17Sounds like pettine might not start Johnny now because of the pictures that came out this weekend. If so what a fucking joke. He wasn't doing drugs didn't kill anybody. This is getting stupid. The kid is fucking 22 years old. If Mike doesn't start Johnny he can go fuck himself.
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Commander of Awesome
Petty Pettine is trying to hold him accountable. I bet part of the reason Gordon ain't playing is bc he was enabled. Same with the Hardy situation.shook_17;1765509 wrote:Sounds like pettine might not start Johnny now because of the pictures that came out this weekend. If so what a fucking joke. He wasn't doing drugs didn't kill anybody. This is getting stupid. The kid is fucking 22 years old. If Mike doesn't start Johnny he can go fuck himself. -
Azubuike24If Johnny was indeed shitfaced this PAST weekend, when he knew the starting job was his for the rest of the year, I wouldn't even want him on the team. He's an idiot, regardless of whether he's 22 or 52. I'd rather start Thad Lewis.
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Commander of Awesome
Nice hot take. I really DGAF if he has a problem or not, I just want him to produce. If he got shitfaced one night during the bye week but spent the rest of his time off in the film room, fine by me.Azubuike24;1765513 wrote:If Johnny was indeed shitfaced this PAST weekend, when he knew the starting job was his for the rest of the year, I wouldn't even want him on the team. He's an idiot, regardless of whether he's 22 or 52. I'd rather start Thad Lewis. -
Azubuike24Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the Browns.
I'm just saying...this is the guy leading the team? The season is lost for the team. It might be lost for the staff. But Johnny is one of the few Browns with an important season left. It speaks volumes, doesn't it? -
SportsAndLady
My girlfriend and her friends saw Dalton gambling at the horse shoe last year, in season. Should Dalton be thrown off the team for having a gambling problem?Azubuike24;1765518 wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the Browns.
I'm just saying...this is the guy leading the team? The season is lost for the team. It might be lost for the staff. But Johnny is one of the few Browns with an important season left. It speaks volumes, doesn't it? -
BR1986FBPettine's probably pissed because going into the bye, Manziel told Pettine "I won't do anything to embarrass you (or the team)." Not sure if this constitutes "embarrassment" but the dude can't go ONE weekend without partying or getting some dumbass video up on social media? I don't GAF that he parties but Jesus he's fucking dumb as a box of rocks.
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friendfromlowry
Did Dalton go to rehab for gambling?SportsAndLady;1765520 wrote:My girlfriend and her friends saw Dalton gambling at the horse shoe last year, in season. Should Dalton be thrown off the team for having a gambling problem? -
shook_17
I wish pettine would hold himself and his coaches accountable. This whole story is a joke.Commander of Awesome;1765510 wrote:Petty Pettine is trying to hold him accountable. I bet part of the reason Gordon ain't playing is bc he was enabled. Same with the Hardy situation. -
BR1986FB
If that's the case, Manziel can join him because my nephew is always playing poker (or blackjack) opposite of JFF & Haden in the high dollar room at the Horseshoe in Cleveland. I saw Manziel in the high dollar room last year after the Ravens away game.SportsAndLady;1765520 wrote:My girlfriend and her friends saw Dalton gambling at the horse shoe last year, in season. Should Dalton be thrown off the team for having a gambling problem? -
SportsAndLady
How do you know Dalton hasn't already been? Or hasn't been but needs to go?friendfromlowry;1765521 wrote:Did Dalton go to rehab for gambling?
Here's my point: drinking on your bye week isn't a bad thing. Being an alcoholic isn't a bad thing. Go out and produce and I couldn't care less what you do outside of the football field. -
Commander of Awesome
Agree. He sucks.shook_17;1765524 wrote:I wish pettine would hold himself and his coaches accountable. This whole story is a joke. -
ts1227I mean yes, going clubbing isn't exactly how one should be spending their time after they leave rehab, and he knows he's in the public eye so it's going to be everywhere., which makes JFF a fucking moron. If they're that disappointed with him just cut his ass, otherwise get over it and start him because it makes the most sense given who is on the roster. This isn't surprising, everyone knew Pettine would go back to McCown at the first hint of an opportunity
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BR1986FBThe nickname "Petty" Pettine is starting to catch on as this smacks of a dad grounding his son. Won't be able to use that much longer as this albatross should be gone in a little over 6 weeks.
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Con_AlmaHe's a kid that has a substance abuse problem which cost him time away from his profession while his employer publicly supported him through it only to then go and display his willingness to continue to seek opportunities to become inebriated. The Cleveland Browns don't owe him anything.
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HitsRusThe video I saw just showed him dancing and singing...I didn't see any evidence that he was drunk or drinking. Did anyone see a video that shows differently. I'm just asking ... Was the vid I saw edited or incomplete?
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friendfromlowry
ESPN showed one like half an hour ago of him holding bottle(s?) of champagne.HitsRus;1765534 wrote:The video I saw just showed him dancing and singing...I didn't see any evidence that he was drunk or drinking. Did anyone see a video that shows differently. I'm just asking ... Was the vid I saw edited or incomplete? -
queencitybuckeye
Has Dalton been to rehab for a gambling problem?SportsAndLady;1765520 wrote:My girlfriend and her friends saw Dalton gambling at the horse shoe last year, in season. Should Dalton be thrown off the team for having a gambling problem? -
friendfromlowry
I'd imagine if Dalton had a debilitating gambling problem, it'd have come to light by now.SportsAndLady;1765526 wrote:How do you know Dalton hasn't already been? Or hasn't been but needs to go?
Here's my point: drinking on your bye week isn't a bad thing. Being an alcoholic isn't a bad thing. Go out and produce and I couldn't care less what you do outside of the football field.
No one here disagrees with your point. But the powers to be within the Cleveland Browns don't want their "face of the franchise" player repeatedly in the spotlight drinking, especially given his problem past. -
friendfromlowryIf nothing else, he should just be fucking smarter about it. He has to realize by now people want to make a story of him, so he if he's out partying and sees someone blatantly recording him, he should keep cool. Instead he seems to find the person recording and go sing and dance for them while holding bottles of alcohol.
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SportsAndLady
They just want him to perform on the field, at least that's what they should be concerned about. Gronk gets wasted and dances at clubs regularly, where's the outrage there? There is none, because he produces. Edelman was popping molly at the Kentucky derby, yet I didn't hear anyone calling for his head.friendfromlowry;1765537 wrote:I'd imagine if Dalton had a debilitating gambling problem, it'd have come to light by now.
No one here disagrees with your point. But the powers to be within the Cleveland Browns don't want their "face of the franchise" player repeatedly in the spotlight drinking, especially given his problem past. -
queencitybuckeye
If Gronk had a known substance abuse problem, there would be an issue. That's the difference you're glossing over.SportsAndLady;1765539 wrote:They just want him to perform on the field, at least that's what they should be concerned about. Gronk gets wasted and dances at clubs regularly, where's the outrage there? There is none, because he produces. Edelman was popping molly at the Kentucky derby, yet I didn't hear anyone calling for his head. -
SportsAndLady
How do you know Gronk doesn't have a substance abuse problem?queencitybuckeye;1765541 wrote:If Gronk had a known substance abuse problem, there would be an issue. That's the difference you're glossing over. -
BR1986FB
This is my biggest problem with it. Dude is as polarizing as it gets. He could keep a lower profile but it's like he revels in this shit. Don't care what he does to blow off steam. Just keep it off TMZ and all of that shit.friendfromlowry;1765538 wrote:If nothing else, he should just be fucking smarter about it. He has to realize by now people want to make a story of him, so he if he's out partying and sees someone blatantly recording him, he should keep cool. Instead he seems to find the person recording and go sing and dance for them while holding bottles of alcohol.