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  • sleeper
    Davis is a top 10 player and certainly is way better than Harden will ever be.

    JR will get 2 games I think. Honestly as long as Lebron and Irving are healthy, they should sleep walk to the NBA finals. I'm expecting to beat the Bulls in 5 games or less.
  • gport_tennis
    sleeper;1724223 wrote:Davis is a top 10 player and certainly is way better than Harden will ever be.

    JR will get 2 games I think. Honestly as long as Lebron and Irving are healthy, they should sleep walk to the NBA finals. I'm expecting to beat the Bulls in 5 games or less.
    I'll take AD over Harden 10/10 times and I am a huge Harden fan, not exactly going out on a limb here.

    Also, I hope you're right on all accounts with smith and the cavs. I don't think a fully healthy cavs team steamrolls the bulls at full strength, def don't think that happens minus 2 starters.
  • sleeper
    gport_tennis;1724226 wrote:I'll take AD over Harden 10/10 times and I am a huge Harden fan, not exactly going out on a limb here.

    Also, I hope you're right on all accounts with smith and the cavs. I don't think a fully healthy cavs team steamrolls the bulls at full strength, def don't think that happens minus 2 starters.
    I just don't get all the Bulls hype. Rose is not what everyone thinks he is and Gasol is old as dirt. What are we scared of? Noah can cause some problems on the defensive end but both Lebron and Kyrie can score with or without him there. The Bulls are overrated and the Cavs shouldn't have anything to worry about.
  • gport_tennis
    sleeper;1724228 wrote:I just don't get all the Bulls hype. Rose is not what everyone thinks he is and Gasol is old as dirt. What are we scared of? Noah can cause some problems on the defensive end but both Lebron and Kyrie can score with or without him there. The Bulls are overrated and the Cavs shouldn't have anything to worry about.
    The bulls record with all 5 of their normal starters is very good. I think its .750% winning percentage or something like that. One of the few teams to beat GSW in their own place.
  • Midstate01
    Love being out vs the bulls hurts worse than JR, because the bulls will have a major size advantage in the game and depth wise.
  • sleeper
    Midstate01;1724231 wrote:Love being out vs the bulls hurts worse than JR, because the bulls will have a major size advantage in the game and depth wise.
    It's not really that much of a size advantage. Who's going to guard Lebron? Who's going to guard Irving? They don't have the assets to shut down our main weapons.
  • sleeper
    I think if Love plays, we win in 4 games, another sweep. If Love doesn't play, I think the Bulls grab game 3 or 4.
  • thavoice
    Anyone know what the total results was on the poll on Mike and Mike this am on if they think this injury was intentional?
    Was like 75% for the guy tried it.

    Watched it a number of times.....just looked like a normal play where two guys get tied up. Started during the descent of the ball and continued and the celtics guy just basically held on trying to make sure Love didnt get it.
  • Automatik
    In my eyes it was intentional, no doubt about it.
  • sleeper
    I think it's intentional. Maybe he wasn't trying to intentionally tear his arm out and take him out, but he certainly had an intention of hurting Love. There's just simply no need to yank like that ever in an NBA game.
  • thavoice
    Automatik;1724287 wrote:In my eyes it was intentional, no doubt about it.
    Man, I just dont see it. When I heard the uproar I was expecting something major, and when I saw it many times I just didnt take it that way. Did he try to hold him? Yeah, he grasped him when both were going to the ball but that was it. Didnt notice anything malice about it. A foul? Sure. Just like you see many a loose ball fall.
  • gport_tennis
    It's a dirty play by Kelly O to try and get an advantage on the court. Intentionally trying to hurt him, probably not. But what do you expect by locking his arm up with both of your arm like that and pulling? If it was just one arm for each locking up, no big deal. But there is no need for him to use his left arm to grab and pull love like that
  • Laley23
    How anyone can say it isn't dirty is beyond me. It shows a lack of understanding of the body. Your shoulder doesn't just tear and come out of it's socket from someone getting tangled. It would take a legit pull in the position Love was in. I don't think he was trying to dislocate his shoulder, but he definitely found himself in a position to pull Loves arm and took it.
  • thavoice
    Laley23;1724335 wrote:How anyone can say it isn't dirty is beyond me. It shows a lack of understanding of the body. Your shoulder doesn't just tear and come out of it's socket from someone getting tangled. It would take a legit pull in the position Love was in. I don't think he was trying to dislocate his shoulder, but he definitely found himself in a position to pull Loves arm and took it.
    Hell, many a times I have seen a guy not even be able to jump for a rebound because they are tangled up like that under the basket.
    I think too many are just over sensitive because it is the local team.
    I dont think it was so much a pull by the celtic player as it was he was holding on and not allowing Love to get away, and when he was trying to get away is when the actual damage was done.
  • Automatik
  • sleeper
    Automatik;1724341 wrote:
    It needs to be 5 games minimum. Dirty ass piece of shit.
  • thavoice
    Automatik;1724341 wrote:
    Yeah, I see him holding the arm so Love cannot go get the ball.
    I think at times we give athletes too much credit in thinking they did something, in a split second, to intentionally hurt someone.

    Oh well.....just have to hope the bulls series gets extended to give him more time to recoup.
  • Pick6
    thavoice;1724337 wrote:Hell, many a times I have seen a guy not even be able to jump for a rebound because they are tangled up like that under the basket.
    I think too many are just over sensitive because it is the local team.
    I dont think it was so much a pull by the celtic player as it was he was holding on and not allowing Love to get away, and when he was trying to get away is when the actual damage was done.
    (s)He fucking torqued down with Love in an armbar. (s)He's facing the winner of Rousey's next fight. Stop being an idiot.
  • thavoice
    Pick6;1724348 wrote:(s)He fucking torqued down with Love in an armbar. (s)He's facing the winner of Rousey's next fight. Stop being an idiot.
    Not the only one who thought it. Heard a few on Mike and Mike talk about it as well who thought the same as I do including taht Bowen guy.
    Of course, that pansy Greenberg said it was dirty but the others didnt.
  • Automatik
    Pick6;1724348 wrote:(s)He fucking torqued down with Love in an armbar. (s)He's facing the winner of Rousey's next fight. Stop being an idiot.


    Exactly. Takes a decent amount of force to dislocate a shoulder, unless it's a recurring injury for some.
  • wildcats20
    It was definitely dirty.

    Was he trying to actually dislocate his shoulder? I don't think so. Was he trying to hurt him? Absolutely, yes.
  • thavoice
    Automatik;1724350 wrote:
    Exactly. Takes a decent amount of force to dislocate a shoulder, unless it's a recurring injury for some.
    or the fact Love was trying to go a different direction and created much of that force.
  • thavoice
    wildcats20;1724351 wrote:It was definitely dirty.

    Was he trying to actually dislocate his shoulder? I don't think so. Was he trying to hurt him? Absolutely, yes.
    No. He was trying to hold him and keep him away from the ball.
  • Automatik
    You get off to being the contrarian, ammirite?
  • thavoice
    Automatik;1724355 wrote:You get off to being the contrarian, ammirite?
    Not really. At times I really troll on the browns and such.

    I heard about it and as I said before, I expected to see a dirty play when I was watching this morning and I personally didnt.
    I understand everyone has their own view of what happens most times and some times their own personal rooting interest can sway their thoughts.

    On my two hour drive this AM and over coffee I watched/listened for well over 2 hours. The poll was highly in favor of it being dirty, but most of the so called experts didnt think so.

    Obviously most of you saw something diff than myself and that is fine.