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Cleveland Cavaliers Offseason 2014

  • thavoice
    Someone needs to find the homeless guy who advised the browns to pick Manziel on what is going to happen here...
  • Commander of Awesome
    Dr. KnOiTaLL;1633503 wrote:Lol, are you ever NOT a douche? .
    Depends on how much of an idiot you are. If you're a dumbass you'll always think I'm a jerk bc I'll make fun of you for being a dipshit. Hence my last post.
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    sleeper;1633507 wrote:There's no way we are getting both Lebron and Love especially if Lebron gets the max. It would have to be some funky sign and trade maths and Love wouldn't get a max deal either.
    You could do it.. It'd be gutting the team and probably not very realistic though.

    But basically you'd have what Miami has now.
  • Laley23
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1633510 wrote:You could do it.. It'd be gutting the team and probably not very realistic though.

    But basically you'd have what Miami has now.
    If they got Love and LBJ, with Wiggins on a rookie deal, they would have a big 4. So not quite like Miami, unless you mean Kyrie would have to go as well...
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    Laley23;1633512 wrote:If they got Love and LBJ, with Wiggins on a rookie deal, they would have a big 4. So not quite like Miami, unless you mean Kyrie would have to go as well...
    Well you could keep Kyrie but have an even worse bench than Miami.
  • sleeper
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1633514 wrote:Well you could keep Kyrie but have an even worse bench than Miami.
    Wiggins + Irving + Love + Lebron. Who cares about the bench?
  • sleeper
    Miami's in the spot that its in because the talent drop off is significant after Lebron and Bosh. Wade is a shell of his former self and Love is a substantial upgrade over Bosh. I'm assuming we'd lose Waiters/Bennett in any trade for Love but we may be able to retain TT and Andy giving us at least some depth.
  • sleeper
    I bet if Lebron comes back, Andy would be willing to take a slight paycut as well in exchange for additional years on contract. He's not worth $9.8M any more but it would surprise me if he would turn down a restructured 4 year deal worth $20M to play along side Lebron and win championships.
  • Midstate01
    The reason they could do love deal is because once the have him they can resign him and go over the cap. Something gilbert is very willing to do. The hurdle is making a trade to get him here.
  • Midstate01
    Can NBA players restructure deals though? Not sure I've ever heard that.
  • wildcats20
    Midstate01;1633524 wrote:Can NBA players restructure deals though? Not sure I've ever heard that.
    No
  • Dr. KnOiTaLL
    Commander of Awesome;1633509 wrote:Depends on how much of an idiot you are. If you're a dumbass you'll always think I'm a jerk bc I'll make fun of you for being a dipshit. Hence my last post.
    How was I being a dipshit or a dumbass? Seems to me like someone forgot his coffee this morning?

    Nothing I posted or said was negligent or moronic. I simply was stating what I had been told from a partially reliable source. Just because you or others don't necessarily agree with it doesn't make it dumb, it just makes you intolerant of opinions other than your own, which pretty much sums up 99% of your posts.
  • like_that
    Dr. KnOiTaLL;1633528 wrote:How was I being a dipshit or a dumbass? Seems to me like someone forgot his coffee this morning?

    Nothing I posted or said was negligent or moronic. I simply was stating what I had been told from a partially reliable source. Just because you or others don't necessarily agree with it doesn't make it dumb, it just makes you intolerant of opinions other than your own, which pretty much sums up 99% of your posts.
    I just want to know where you somehow came up with this BS that COA and I want nothing to do with Lebron coming back, meanwhile the rest of the cavs fan on this site want him back.

    100% false. Don't feed turdos bullshit. That's all he has.
  • Benny The Jet
    If you're believing the stories and rumors out there that he's coming back, by what day do you start to get less confident it's not happening? If it hasn't happened by this time next week, do you still feel he's coming back? Just curious.
  • SportsAndLady
    Benny The Jet;1633535 wrote:If you're believing the stories and rumors out there that he's coming back, by what day do you start to get less confident it's not happening? If it hasn't happened by this time next week, do you still feel he's coming back? Just curious.
    I'll get a better idea myself probably a few days after the meeting with Riley.
  • Midstate01
    Benny The Jet;1633535 wrote:If you're believing the stories and rumors out there that he's coming back, by what day do you start to get less confident it's not happening? If it hasn't happened by this time next week, do you still feel he's coming back? Just curious.
    I'd say the weekend for myself
  • Midstate01
    wildcats20;1633526 wrote:No
    Yea I didn't think so.
  • Benny The Jet
    SportsAndLady;1633537 wrote:I'll get a better idea myself probably a few days after the meeting with Riley.
    Any more word out there about when exactly he's meeting?
  • robj55
    Windhorst said the meeting was taking place today I thought? No idea what Pat Riley is going to sell him, nothing is concrete right now.
  • Laley23
    I actually think the biggest hurdle could be Melo. If/when he signs with LA/NY you will see Houston go after Bosh with Max. If Bosh takes the Max from Houston, LBJ is likely out of Miami. The whole reason he opted out was, imo, because of Wades health and declining ability (Screamin A said something similar this morning as well). Otherwise, he wouldve just played out the next year thinking they could win.
  • Dr. KnOiTaLL
    ernest_t_bass;1619920 wrote:Do any Cavs fans think that the writing may be on the wall for a LBJ return? If the Heat win the championship this year, I see it happening. With Kyrie there, the #1 Embiid on the way, it just makes sense to me.
    BR1986FB;1619923 wrote:Actually, I'd think quite the opposite. Now if they could somehow land Kevin Love to a long term deal I could see him returning. I don't see him coming back to play with a bunch of young guys. I'd think he'd want a team set to contend for multiple championships immediately. That being said, still don't want him back.
    SportsAndLady;1619924 wrote:No.
    sleeper;1619928 wrote:I doubt it but that doesn't mean its not possible.
    SportsAndLady;1619930 wrote:Lebron isn't coming back to Cleveland.

    I have no reasoning other than this is Cleveland and that would be too good of news    .
    Mohican00;1619939 wrote:No. I'm a firm believer Lebron is chasing rings so he is going to end up on ready made teams. The Cavs have no coach, haven't made the playoffs since Lebron left, and this max deal shit with Kyrie only cements the notion that he isn't happy as a Cavalier. Oh, and Dan Gilbert is still owner.

    He'll stay on with the heat for the 2014-15 season and then move on if he's tired of his old ass team. Might he come back to the Cavs as part of a farewell, last team before he retires deal? Possibly, but who the fuck wants that?
    Commander of Awesome;1620146 wrote:Here's what I know, catering to lbj's every want got us a big FUCK YOU on national tv and him bouncing to Miami to play penis flickers recruiting every fa which he never did in Cleveland. Also quit. Fuck him. Take embiid
    ohiobucks1;1620148 wrote:Im with you. I just know that maverick relayed that info to my dad to get to My dad's boss to get it to Gilbert (weird right? ). It's the truth. Unless maverick has gone rogue
    SportsAndLady;1620149 wrote:This. Jesus Christ people, stop.

    OB, gtfooh with that "my peoples said Lebron.." Shit
    like_that;1620168 wrote:So Lebron can play one more year at Miami while seeing if Parker works out? Yeah, fuck that. Lebron isn't coming and they sure as hell better not make moves with the hope of him coming. Plenty of teams did that the last time Lebron was a FA and they all got burned.


    Lhslep, no idea how the cavs can have a better roster than the heat.
    like_that;1620248 wrote:I was picturing both lineups with Lebron. I don't see Lebron leaving bosh/wade for the cry babies in waiters and kyrie.
    like_that;1620276 wrote:Not for 2014-2015.
    sleeper;1620273 wrote:Embid would be the best or second best player on the team over Waiters/Kyrie. The core of Embid, Irving, Lebron, Bennett, TT, AV, waiters is better than what Miami has.
    sleeper;1626677 wrote:Lebron will play in Cleveland next year. Book it.
    like_that;1626683 wrote:You have changed your stance on this.
    like_that;1626718 wrote:I would say about a month ago sleeper said there is no chance he comes. All of a sudden he loses and now he might come?

    I'm sticking to what I predicted, which is there is no shot he comes. Frankly, he can go fuck himself.
    lhslep134;1626732 wrote:I think there's a better shot at him coming now because: 1) the Cavs having ammunition to make moves; 2) #1 pick, whoever we choose, and 3) the Heatles' future up in the air.

    But that's not a bold statement because going from a 1% chance to 5% chance is still "better". The Heat are going to have a ton of flexibility too if all 3 renounce their contracts, I think there's a great chance they do enough to keep him.
    Tired of going through more posts, but I guess these posts are the reason I included COA and like_that when thinking that they didn't want LeBron back. Guess I should've included S+L and a few others as well.
  • like_that
    Dr. KnOiTaLL;1633552 wrote:Tired of going through more posts, but I guess these posts are the reason I included COA and like_that when thinking that they didn't want LeBron back. Guess I should've included S+L and a few others as well.
    So this pretty much plays into exactly what I said...

    I don't think Lebron is coming back, and I think he is a douche. That doesn't mean I don't want him back. Huge difference. Not really sure how you can't comprehend that. I would take any player I despise (except rapistberger) if it meant winning a title.

    Also I stand by my comment that he could go fuck himself if he thought the cavs were gonna make moves to cater to the thought or him POSSIBLY coming back to the team. You don't make drafts picks based on one person who might or might not join your team. The cavs drafted THEIR guy, which I'm happy with.
  • BR1986FB
    Dr. KnOiTaLL;1633552 wrote:Tired of going through more posts, but I guess these posts are the reason I included COA and like_that when thinking that they didn't want LeBron back. Guess I should've included S+L and a few others as well.
    I think you're misinterpreting S&L's posts. I think he'd LOVE to have LBJ back but thinks it's a pipe dream. Myself, on the other hand? Do. Not. Want.
  • like_that
    Bosh just got offered the max from Houston.
  • Laley23
    Yeah, I think BR is the only person who has steadfastly said he doesnt want LeBron back. Everyone else reversed their tune once emotions settled down a few months/year into it. LeBron has also done a great job on his image and seems to have grown up a ton, which makes it easier for people to forgive...but no doubt, most want him back cause people want to win titles. LeBron = best chance at that.