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Ironman92

KB0938;1644878 wrote:I sure hope so lol

I simply don't watch until week 1....but this being basically the first preseason game for everyone....how many of these excessive calls are on guys that will be deep on the depth chart? Maybe those guys are trying to prove a point but can't without the extra illegal contact/holding.

Just guessing

KB0938

Ironman92;1644880 wrote:I simply don't watch until week 1....but this being basically the first preseason game for everyone....how many of these excessive calls are on guys that will be deep on the depth chart? Maybe those guys are trying to prove a point but can't without the extra illegal contact/holding.

Just guessing

I understand what you mean and how theres usually more flags in the preseason than the regular season for reasons just like that. But this is excessive for even the preseason.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000376637/article/illegal-contact-penalties-fly-in-first-week-of-preseason

"ESPN's John Clayton did the math, tallying 27 illegal contact penalties in the first 17 preseason games. By comparison, there were 37 such infractions all of last season. We saw 53 defensive holding calls from Thursday through Saturday. Compare that to the 171 defensive holds from September through December of last year." And its def kept up this 2nd week

Ironman92

KB0938;1644882 wrote:I understand what you mean and how theres usually more flags in the preseason than the regular season for reasons just like that. But this is excessive for even the preseason.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000376637/article/illegal-contact-penalties-fly-in-first-week-of-preseason

"ESPN's John Clayton did the math, tallying 27 illegal contact penalties in the first 17 preseason games. By comparison, there were 37 such infractions all of last season. We saw 53 defensive holding calls from Thursday through Saturday. Compare that to the 171 defensive holds from September through December of last year." And its def kept up this 2nd week

Thanks for the stats to back up your issue. Sucks the refs are ruining preseason fun for those that enjoy. Hopefully it is much better during the season.....but cracking down hard on something this early could let players know they aren't getting away with it this year. Might be wanting the casual fan even more as they prefer offense.

HelloAgain

If they're going to call defensive holding and illegal contact this close during the season, Peyton's passing records may not last one year.

It also damages the Seahawks as they've been known as among the most aggressive at bending these rules in the past.

Ironman92

HelloAgain;1644886 wrote:If they're going to call defensive holding and illegal contact this close during the season, Peyton's passing records may not last one year.

It also damages the Seahawks as they've been known as among the most aggressive at bending these rules in the past.

I don't prefer 45-42 games.

I like football games.

Pick6

KB0938;1644882 wrote:I understand what you mean and how theres usually more flags in the preseason than the regular season for reasons just like that. But this is excessive for even the preseason.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000376637/article/illegal-contact-penalties-fly-in-first-week-of-preseason

"ESPN's John Clayton did the math, tallying 27 illegal contact penalties in the first 17 preseason games. By comparison, there were 37 such infractions all of last season. We saw 53 defensive holding calls from Thursday through Saturday. Compare that to the 171 defensive holds from September through December of last year." And its def kept up this 2nd week

Let me know when you have stats that are relevant, such as comparing this years preseason penalties with last years. You're proving all of our points in that its a considerable decline when the games actually matter.

Ironman92

2013 preseason avg 11.3 penalties per game.

2014 so far in preseason 14.8 penalties per game

Mulva

There will be a lot of calls early in the season. Defenses will adjust and refs will ease off as the season goes on, once the NFL realizes that everyone is pissed off about all the flags.

It won't be nearly as bad to watch as college basketball was this past year.

Pick6

Ironman92;1644901 wrote:2013 preseason avg 11.3 penalties per game.

2014 so far in preseason 14.8 penalties per game

Thanks. How about week 1 2013 preseason vs week 1 2014 preseason? Makes sense to me that calls would decrease as preseason goes on.

Pick6

Mulva;1644912 wrote:There will be a lot of calls early in the season. Defenses will adjust and refs will ease off as the season goes on, once the NFL realizes that everyone is pissed off about all the flags.

It won't be nearly as bad to watch as college basketball was this past year.

Hated college basketball in the beginning of the year as much as anyone, but I thought it was fine as the season went on.

Azubuike24

It was bad early on, but it will level out and there won't even be a noticeable difference by this year and years coming.

salto

Anyone else watch the Vikings vs. Cardinals preseason game? At least watch the last few minutes.

wow....that was a really fun preseason game.

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/bridgewater-vikings-rally-past-cardinals-30-28-25011560

Ironman92

Pick6;1644918 wrote:Thanks. How about week 1 2013 preseason vs week 1 2014 preseason? Makes sense to me that calls would decrease as preseason goes on.

2013 1st week avg penalties preseason..... 12.2 per game

thavoice

Mulva;1644912 wrote:There will be a lot of calls early in the season. Defenses will adjust and refs will ease off as the season goes on, once the NFL realizes that everyone is pissed off about all the flags.

It won't be nearly as bad to watch as college basketball was this past year.

Similiar to Hockey a few years ago when they finally cracked down on obstruction. It was ugly early on but ended up making the game better.

KB0938

Pick6;1644897 wrote:Let me know when you have stats that are relevant, such as comparing this years preseason penalties with last years. You're proving all of our points in that its a considerable decline when the games actually matter.

Considering the press release the NFL released regarding this, they seem pretty set on it

Pick6

KB0938;1645407 wrote:Considering the press release the NFL released regarding this, they seem pretty set on it

I take it back lol. See Browns thread. Ridiculous.

KB0938

Pick6;1645456 wrote:I take it back lol. See Browns thread. Ridiculous.

Yeah lol its bad

BR1986FB

Good God, the arrogance of Goodell and the NFL. The league is taking "bids" for halftime show performers for the 2015 Super Bowl. The finalists are Katy Perry, Rhianna & Coldplay....but get this, the league wants the performers to pay a performance "fee" or donate money to the league due to the "exposure" they are going to get.

Heretic

BR1986FB;1645969 wrote:Good God, the arrogance of Goodell and the NFL. The league is taking "bids" for halftime show performers for the 2015 Super Bowl. The finalists are Katy Perry, Rhianna & Coldplay....but get this, the league wants the performers to pay a performance "fee" or donate money to the league due to the "exposure" they are going to get.

I know. Because all three of those performers definitely are in need of exposure and could really be helped by pulling such a prestigious gig.

Goodell needs to get real. NFL halftimes are nearly always overblown garbage that (at least with my group of friends) are used for social hour with the TV muted (or us in another room) where the people watching them are the ones who probably aren't watching the actual game so closely.

BR1986FB

Heretic;1645978 wrote:I know. Because all three of those performers definitely are in need of exposure and could really be helped by pulling such a prestigious gig.

Precisely. I would've loved to see Goodell try to pull that crap when Kiss played the SB. That money grubbing Gene Simmons would've laughed in his face.

Heretic

BR1986FB;1645984 wrote:Precisely. I would've loved to see Goodell try to pull that crap when Kiss played the SB. That money grubbing Gene Simmons would've laughed in his face.

"We didn't sign on to do our 58th 'last tour EVAR' to pay people to let us play!"

Lovejoy1984

Le'Veon Bell, and LaGarrette Blount, arrested for weed.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/20/steelers-leveon-bell-and-legarrette-blount-both-arrested/

BR1986FB

HighRoller74;1646180 wrote:Le'Veon Bell, and LaGarrette Blount, arrested for weed.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/20/steelers-leveon-bell-and-legarrette-blount-both-arrested/

Does anyone else find it ironic that one's name is pronounced "blunt?"

HitsRus

BR1986FB;1645969 wrote:Good God, the arrogance of Goodell and the NFL. The league is taking "bids" for halftime show performers for the 2015 Super Bowl. The finalists are Katy Perry, Rhianna & Coldplay....but get this, the league wants the performers to pay a performance "fee" or donate money to the league due to the "exposure" they are going to get.

....Not content enough to gouge season ticket holders for two full priced exhibition games.

Automatik

HighRoller74;1646180 wrote:Le'Veon Bell, and LaGarrette Blount, arrested for weed.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/20/steelers-leveon-bell-and-legarrette-blount-both-arrested/

lol, fucking unreal. This shit never shocks me anymore. Rocks for brains.

Kent State guy will probably get the start.

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