Michael Sam announces he is gay.
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WebFire
GFY, lhslep. We are all entitled to opinions, and this is mine. Which, by the way, yours is an opinion as well.lhslep134;1580334 wrote:Except being a heterosexual is completely distinguishable in the context of this conversation because heterosexuals haven't been persecuted and aren't victims of bigotry because of their sexual preference. Add in the context of a professional football locker room and you're even more wrong.
Nice analogy fail. In fact, every single heterosexual comment you've made on this thread has been an analogy fail. You're either pretending to be, or are, completely ignorant to the persecution the GLBT community has faced and how talking about their sexual preference is extremely distinguishable from a heterosexual talking about the same topic.
Like I said 150 posts ago, GTFO webbie.
Pointing oneself out as being "different" does not help make you the same. -
Heretic
As someone in the 18-22 demographic who has probably been an elite-level athlete his entire life to date, I assume this means he should pretty much be constantly talking about how much action he's getting to anyone who'll listen.WebFire;1580330 wrote:I think they should talk about and acknowledge it just as much as heterosexuals do. -
lhslep134
This proves that you've COMPLETELY WHIFFED on the entire point of Sam's announcement. He's pointing out his difference to lessen the bigotry expressed towards the aforementioned difference. He's not trying to be "the same" he's trying to receive less bigoted treatment.WebFire;1580345 wrote:
Pointing oneself out as being "different" does not help make you the same. -
rrfan
So far it seems as if he has not had any bigoted treatment. Said his school and team treated him great.lhslep134;1580351 wrote:This proves that you've COMPLETELY WHIFFED on the entire point of Sam's announcement. He's pointing out his difference to lessen the bigotry expressed towards the aforementioned difference. He's not trying to be "the same" he's trying to receive less bigoted treatment. -
WebFire
Announcing it doesn't accomplish that. Never will.lhslep134;1580351 wrote:This proves that you've COMPLETELY WHIFFED on the entire point of Sam's announcement. He's pointing out his difference to lessen the bigotry expressed towards the aforementioned difference. He's not trying to be "the same" he's trying to receive less bigoted treatment. -
I Wear Pants
So all the time?WebFire;1580330 wrote:I think they should talk about and acknowledge it just as much as heterosexuals do.
Which obviously means everyone has and is...rrfan;1580352 wrote:So far it seems as if he has not had any bigoted treatment. Said his school and team treated him great. -
WebFire
Sure, if you think it's all the time. But I've never known anyone that has announced it.I Wear Pants;1580441 wrote:So all the time?
Which obviously means everyone has and is... -
DeyDurkie5
Gays for days I tell ya. -
I Wear Pants
Because it's assumed by default, but people talk about their girlfriends/wives/having sex with girls all the fucking time. It's not treated like an announcement because it's assumed by default that people are straight. A guy talks about being gay and it's "OMG WHY DO YOU HAVE TO ANNOUNCE IT KEEP IT TO YOURSELF".WebFire;1580465 wrote:Sure, if you think it's all the time. But I've never known anyone that has announced it. -
WebFire
No it isn't. I have gay friends that talk just like you described all the time. Perfect! That IS treating it as normal. Which is far different than making an announcement, which is treating it as not normal.I Wear Pants;1580474 wrote:Because it's assumed by default, but people talk about their girlfriends/wives/having sex with girls all the fucking time. It's not treated like an announcement because it's assumed by default that people are straight. A guy talks about being gay and it's "OMG WHY DO YOU HAVE TO ANNOUNCE IT KEEP IT TO YOURSELF". -
sleeper
Most fat people don't and that's why they are fat. Honestly, fat people are the worst.OSH;1579997 wrote:I do not believe "health issues" is the primary reason why obesity is looked at as "undesirable."
Like many other things, what people want to do with their body is up to them. Smoking, obsessive drinking, drugs, etc. are all up to the individual. It is up to the individual on how they treat their body. When I see someone that is obese, I understand that it can cause health issues, but it is also abnormal to let someone's body get THAT big. It's a hindrance. Call it "lookism." Call it unattractiveness. Whatever you want to label it, it's not something that I desire -- and it's not really regarding health.
Maybe I am in the minority here, but I don't view obesity as being undesirable due to health issues. If that were the case, there are many things I'd stay away from (or others would too): alcohol, cigarettes, motor vehicles, tanning beds, etc. -
DeyDurkie5
Are you seriously that mad that a college NFL prospect came out and said he was gay?WebFire;1580542 wrote:No it isn't. I have gay friends that talk just like you described all the time. Perfect! That IS treating it as normal. Which is far different than making an announcement, which is treating it as not normal. -
WebFire
No.DeyDurkie5;1580697 wrote:Are you seriously that mad that a college NFL prospect came out and said he was gay? -
lhslep134
Thanks for making my point for me. Your gay friends don't have to announce it (even though they did at some point, even if it was before they met you, which makes you even more wrong but whatever) because they're in a normal environment where it's now accepted to be gay.WebFire;1580542 wrote:No it isn't. I have gay friends that talk just like you described all the time. Perfect! That IS treating it as normal. Which is far different than making an announcement, which is treating it as not normal.
Guess what place isn't normal? An NFL locker room and an NFL organization. You ever read some athletes' takes on homosexuality?
Like I said, I think you're being very clearly ignorant for trying to compare being openly gay in normal, everyday life to being openly gay in an NFL locker room. -
sleeper
The only ignorant thing here is gay people trying to make a big deal out of their sexual choices. Keep it to yourself. No one cares that you like it in the pooper.lhslep134;1580719 wrote:Thanks for making my point for me. Your gay friends don't have to announce it (even though they did at some point, even if it was before they met you, which makes you even more wrong but whatever) because they're in a normal environment where it's now accepted to be gay.
Guess what place isn't normal? An NFL locker room and an NFL organization. You ever read some athletes' takes on homosexuality?
Like I said, I think you're being very clearly ignorant for trying to compare being openly gay in normal, everyday life to being openly gay in an NFL locker room. -
sleeper
In other words, gay people need to grow up.
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lhslep134
Obviously people do, especially in a professional sports setting. If no one cared, someone would have come out a lot sooner.sleeper;1580722 wrote:No one cares that you like it in the pooper. -
sleeper
He doesn't need to 'come out'. Why are gay people so obsessed with letting everyone know their sexual choices?lhslep134;1580725 wrote:Obviously people do, especially in a professional sports setting. If no one cared, someone would have come out a lot sooner. -
DeyDurkie5
riight.WebFire;1580701 wrote:No.
There is a thread in the basement if you ever want to come out to us webbie. -
WebFire
Oh, I didn't realize having an opinion on a d-i-s-c-u-s-s-i-o-n board meant you were angry. Why are you angry?DeyDurkie5;1580733 wrote:riight.
There is a thread in the basement if you ever want to come out to us webbie. -
WebFire
So a BCS football locker room is a normal environment? He seemed to handle it just fine there. Why couldn't he wait to get drafted, then have a meeting with his teammates about it if he felt he needed to make his environment better.lhslep134;1580719 wrote:Thanks for making my point for me. Your gay friends don't have to announce it (even though they did at some point, even if it was before they met you, which makes you even more wrong but whatever) because they're in a normal environment where it's now accepted to be gay.
Guess what place isn't normal? An NFL locker room and an NFL organization. You ever read some athletes' takes on homosexuality?
Like I said, I think you're being very clearly ignorant for trying to compare being openly gay in normal, everyday life to being openly gay in an NFL locker room.
Also, for me it's not just this one announcement. It's all the celebrities and sports figures that do it for the cause (because, really, those are the only ones that make these announcements). -
DeyDurkie5
Am I not discussing this with you right now?WebFire;1580747 wrote:Oh, I didn't realize having an opinion on a d-i-s-c-u-s-s-i-o-n board meant you were angry. Why are you angry? -
WebFire
Yeah, so are you angry?DeyDurkie5;1580750 wrote:Am I not discussing this with you right now? -
Heretic
Words said by Mr. "LOOK AT ME! I'M BANGING ALL THESE CHICKS AND MIGHT EVEN TAKE ONE OUT FOR VALENTINE'S DAY!!!!"sleeper;1580722 wrote:The only ignorant thing here is gay people trying to make a big deal out of their sexual choices. Keep it to yourself. No one cares that you like it in the pooper.
Lol. -
sleeper
Yeah but none of them in the pooper.Heretic;1580764 wrote:Words said by Mr. "LOOK AT ME! I'M BANGING ALL THESE CHICKS AND MIGHT EVEN TAKE ONE OUT FOR VALENTINE'S DAY!!!!"
Lol.