2014 Cleveland Browns Offseason Thread

• like_that

  

  LJ;1571384 wrote:LOL

  Ahh, there it is. LJ letting us know he has nothing. (cue him calling me a retard)
  
  Anyway, let's get back on topic, before LJ tries to tell us that his brother in law's 2nd cousin is a jags season ticket holder and takes LJ to a couple games a year.
• LJ

  

  like_that;1571386 wrote:Ahh, there it is. LJ letting us know he has nothing. (cue him calling me a retard)
  
  Anyway, let's get back on topic, before LJ tries to tell us that his brother in law's 2nd cousin is a jags season ticket holder and takes LJ to a couple games a year.

  Nah, keep telling us how you know so much about the Bills fan base because you went to a bar in DC where they were watching a Bills game one time.
• LJ

  

  SportsAndLady;1571385 wrote:Not necessarily. I haven't been to multiple games.

  You strike me as the type who doesn't leave their apartment
• like_that

  

  LJ;1571388 wrote:Nah, keep telling us how you know so much about the Bills fan base because you went to a bar in DC where they were watching a Bills game one time.

  I gave one example of an encounter with Bills fans. All you simply have to do is see that they sell out most of their games despite not having a playoff season since the music city miracle. But yeah, they definitely buy season tickets only to waste time before Sabres season lolfail. Didn't know you had to provide an ethnographic case study to prove a certain fan base is a good fan base.
  
  Do you think Seattle fans are good fans? You must know A LOT of them!!!!!
• LJ

  

  like_that;1571395 wrote:I gave one example of an encounter with Bills fans. All you simply have to do is see that they sell out most of their games despite not having a playoff season since the music city miracle. But yeah, they definitely buy season tickets only to waste time before Sabres season lolfail. Didn't know you had to provide an ethnographic case study to prove a certain fan base is a good fan base.

  lol the Bills have at least 1 blackout every season and ownership buys the tickets in multiple games every year. In 2012 alone they had 2 blackouts and Wilson bought the tickets in 3 other games. In 2013 they had 1 of 2 NFL blackouts
  

  Do you think Seattle fans are good fans? You must know A LOT of them!!!!!

  no idea.
• SportsAndLady

  

  LJ;1571389 wrote:You strike me as the type who doesn't leave their apartment

  Why would you think that?
• sportchampps

  http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000079329/article/fan-base-power-rankings-packers-bills-on-top
  
  
  here's a good article on NFL fan bases. I actually think it's well done and would only move 1 or 2 teams around in each tier.
• shook_17

  

  Don't hijack our thread. You are being like Iggy. We don't care about the bills fan base. Now suck bricks
• Pick6

  

  Cleveland: Total D-9. Rush D- 18. Pass D- 8. PPG-23.
  Buffalo: Total D- 10. Rush D- 28. Pass D- 4.PPG-20.
  
  I'll root for the guy, but I fail to see all the hype. Horton had a better overall D and he was playing with a bunch of guys playing in the 3-4 for their 1st year.
• Ironman92

  

  Sorry to continue being off topic and this will be my only post on it.
  
  Like_that......when I was in Ocean City everything and everyone there was Ravens......but it's 3 hours from DC and Baltimore. Do the Redskins fans only locate near DC and Ravens get everything else?....or are the Ravens folks bandwagoning big time because of the last many years. I've always been told how loyal the Redskins fans were.....seemed odd that it was all Ravens.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Pick6;1571461 wrote:I'll root for the guy, but I fail to see all the hype.

  First of all, no one cares who you root for.
  
  Secondly, where is this "hype"?
  
  Lastly, he's been a D-Coordinator for 5 years and all 5 years his defense's have been in the top 10.
• Pick6

  

  SportsAndLady;1571474 wrote:First of all, no one cares who you root for.
  
  Secondly, where is this "hype"?
  
  Lastly, he's been a D-Coordinator for 5 years and all 5 years his defense's have been in the top 10.

  I feel bad that you have to live your life being a constant douche bag.
  
  Looking good with the Jets D is hardly impressive. Especially with that talent. Besides, everyone knows Rex Ryan was running that D and it's naive to believe otherwise. Its a desperation hire at best because nobody wants to work for the 3 stooges.
• like_that

  

  Pick6;1571479 wrote:I feel bad that you have to live your life being a constant douche bag.
  
  Looking good with the Jets D is hardly impressive. Especially with that talent. Besides, everyone knows Rex Ryan was running that D and it's naive to believe otherwise. Its a desperation hire at best because nobody wants to work for the 3 stooges.

  Every player that played for him disagrees with this post. I will take their word over a cowboys fan's word.
  
  Also Horton had better personnel to work with.
• Laley23

  

  SportsAndLady;1571474 wrote:First of all, no one cares who you root for.
  
  Secondly, where is this "hype"?
  
  Lastly, he's been a D-Coordinator for 5 years and all 5 years his defense's have been in the top 10.

  To go along with that point, Cleveland has some studs on defense as well as some really, really solid "role" players. Buffalo isn't barren, but you have to take into account the personnel he was working with and how poor they were the year prior to arrival.
• like_that

  

  Ironman92;1571464 wrote:Sorry to continue being off topic and this will be my only post on it.
  
  Like_that......when I was in Ocean City everything and everyone there was Ravens......but it's 3 hours from DC and Baltimore. Do the Redskins fans only locate near DC and Ravens get everything else?....or are the Ravens folks bandwagoning big time because of the last many years. I've always been told how loyal the Redskins fans were.....seemed odd that it was all Ravens.

  Those ravens fans are def bandwagoning. Most redskins fans are in NOVA though. Too many transplants in the city to have many redskins fans.
• shook_17

  

  Right the Jets defense wasn't impressive when they willed the Jets to two straightnAFC championship game. Got it. Thanks
• ohiobucks1

  

  I just can't get behind this. I know i'm going to in about 3 weeks and then the factory of sadness with start all over again.
  
  
  Here's to hoping we have a decent draft. We've got the pieces to be a great team if we add the right picks.
• EmilyPowell

  

  LOL. congrats!!
• Go4alOngbOmB

  

  Sounds like my wife, who IS a Browns fan, and can name the starting rosters, saying our coach in Bill Parcells, Jimmi Hendrix, and the Movie C.H.U.D.D. again.
  
  I like the passion I have seen from this guy. I also hate that Norv Turner left this team.
  
  The fact that NFL coaching candidates see our front office as the AIDS virus, is really disheartening to me.
  
  But who can blame them when we drop our head coach in year 1.
  
  We had 6 pro Bowlers this season. We have a ton of picks in the first 3 rounds of the NFL draft....coaches should have been calling US....begging for the job! But they weren't. I obviously see this as a front office problem.
  
  Until you contain the head of the serpent....it will continue to bite poison into you!
  
  So now I wait for the draft....and hear Johnny Manzells name.....
  
  Then and only then, will I swan dive off of the skyscraper that once had a banner that read.....
  
  "Jump Art Jump"
• Footwedge

  What will it take to pry Manziel from the Texans? My guess is the #4 overall plus our first number 3. But even that probably won't get it done. I don't want Bridgewater nor Bortles. Put up decent numbers in a crap conference.
• like_that

  

  Footwedge;1571535 wrote:What will it take to pry Manziel from the Texans? My guess is the #4 overall plus our first number 3. But even that probably won't get it done. I don't want Bridgewater nor Bortles. Put up decent numbers in a crap conference.

  The browns better not trade up.
• Footwedge

  like_that;1571536 wrote:The browns better not trade up.

  If they want to sell their tickets, they had better trade up.
• like_that

  

  Footwedge;1571537 wrote:If they want to sell their tickets, they had better trade up.

  LOL, the same team that was top 10 in attendance after a 4-12 season doesn't need to make moves to sell tickets. Since when is that a good way to run an organization. Just stop.
• Ironman92

  

  How many the stadium hold plays a part in that...Cowboys certainly aren't the best.
  
  
• like_that

  

  Ironman92;1571542 wrote:How many the stadium hold plays a part in that...Cowboys certainly aren't the best.
  
  

  I don't buy into that percentage bs. They still have a great average amount (71k is a lot) that shows up, especially for a 4-12 team in a small city. With the new stadium upgrades coming in the next two years, that number would be well over 100%.
  
  Regardless it is still better than shittsburgh's fair weathered fans and the Browns aren't an organization that needs to make moves based on how many tickets they can sell LOL.