2014 Cleveland Browns Offseason Thread

• DeyDurkie5

  

  IggyPride00;1571114 wrote:Pettine is literally the D-Coordinator version of Chud.
  
  He's like the Browns 4th/5th choice and the only guy that will take the job. He will have no real power in the organization, and is just happy to be called a head coach.
  
  If Pettine was the guy all along they should have hired him 3 weeks ago so they could fill the assistant coaching spots with better talent instead of the scraps that are left now that the rest of the league has staffed up.
  
  I hope the media takes the gloves off at the introductory presser and asks Haslam why he and his management team can't sell this team to prospective coaching targets. Why do we get stuck hiring coordinators off losing teams because 3-4 guys turn us down first. Is that really the best we can hope to expect with this group?
  
  As someone on the OBR pointed out, the only good thing about this hire is that we can use Goldberg's theme music to bring him out with. Other than that it is just another in the long line of failure that is the unholy trinity of Banner/Haslam/Lombardi.

  You have never even given us who you want in this search. All you do is rip on every move they make with this same doomsday bullshit. Give us your "plans" oh wise iggy
• IggyPride00

  

  DeyDurkie5;1571118 wrote:You have never even given us who you want in this search. All you do is rip on every move they make with this same doomsday bullshit. Give us your "plans" oh wise iggy

  My plans can't happen until Joe Banner is gone, because no one worth a damn would consider coming here as long as he is in charge.
  
  I told it loud and proud the day he was hired he was a cancer and we were doomed with him in charge.
  
  I have yet to be proven wrong on that front, and until the cancer is cut out we won't be going anywhere.
• like_that

  

  @AdamSchefter: Browns expected to offer their HC job to Bills DC Mike Pettine, per multiple league sources, via @mortreport and me. Need to work out deal.
• like_that

  

  Lol at iggy blow ups. I don't even read his posts anymore. I just take comfort in knowing that he wastes his time and energy to post material that 95% of us will scroll by.
• Devils Advocate

  

  Who the hell is iggy?~~~~
• GoChiefs

  

  Pettine on Hard Knocks
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq15MEM76Mw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
• wildcats20

  

  IggyPride00;1571122 wrote:My plans can't happen until Joe Banner is gone, because no one worth a damn would consider coming here as long as he is in charge.
  
  I told it loud and proud the day he was hired he was a cancer and we were doomed with him in charge.
  
  I have yet to be proven wrong on that front, and until the cancer is cut out we won't be going anywhere.

  Who do you want to coach the Browns?
• like_that

  

  wildcats20;1571154 wrote:Who do you want to coach the Browns?

  Just stop.
• thavoice

  Congrats on the hire.
  
  Now they can move forward.
  
  With a defensive coach who do you think they will bring in to coach the offense and will it sway whom they draft with their first pick?
  
  Clowney is a beast, but this is a QB league.
• IggyPride00

  

  thavoice;1571157 wrote:Congrats on the hire.
  
  Now they can move forward.
  
  With a defensive coach who do you think they will bring in to coach the offense and will it sway whom they draft with their first pick?
  
  Clowney is a beast, but this is a QB league.

  The OBR has been spreading talk that Cam Cameron is a leading contender to be O-coordinator.
  
  By waiting so long to hire a coach the coordinator pool has been drained of most of the highly talented guys.
  
  They are drafting a QB. What Pettine wants is of little consequence. His job is to coach whatever Banner/Lombardi give him to work with.
• thavoice

  IggyPride00;1571171 wrote:The OBR has been spreading talk that Cam Cameron is a leading contender to be O-coordinator.
  
  By waiting so long to hire a coach the coordinator pool has been drained of most of the highly talented guys.
  
  They are drafting a QB. What Pettine wants is of little consequence. His job is to coach whatever Banner/Lombardi give him to work with.

  Maybe of the PROVEN ones, but that doesnt mean they cannot bring one in that becomes the next big thing in the NFL. Every great coord was an unknown at one point and when they bring in Manzeil it will breathe life into that listless offense.
  
  When they take a few steps forward next year will you THEN give some credit to the organization?
• IggyPride00

  

  When they take a few steps forward next year will you THEN give some credit to the organization?

  What is a few steps forward?
  
  Bringing in experienced proven coordinators is vital for a rookie coach who has never been a head coach on any level other than high school.
  
  This is all the more important when you consider the mine field Pettine is going to have to navigate that is this front office. That bullshit they pulled with Chud last year where they were churning the bottom 1/3 of the roster every few weeks makes team building next to impossible.
  
  They fired Chud because they want to win now and scapegoat him for management's failure, and the solution is to bring in a guy with no HC experience? Color me unimpressed.
• thavoice

  IggyPride00;1571186 wrote:What is a few steps forward?
  
  Bringing in experienced proven coordinators is vital for a rookie coach who has never been a head coach on any level other than high school.
  
  This is all the more important when you consider the mine field Pettine is going to have to navigate that is this front office. That bullshit they pulled with Chud last year where they were churning the bottom 1/3 of the roster every few weeks makes team building next to impossible.
  
  They fired Chud because they want to win now and scapegoat him for management's failure, and the solution is to bring in a guy with no HC experience? Color me unimpressed.

  8-8 next year is where I see the browns finishing, maybe a bit higher.
• bases_loaded

  

  He's got an attitude that's well respected around the league. He wanted the job. He's only Chud if being unproven coordinator guy is your qualification.
• like_that

  

  @RapSheet: No way to know what kind of a coach Mike Pettine would be for #Browns. But have not talked to a coach who isn’t a huge fan of him. Great guy
• IggyPride00

  

  He's only Chud if being unproven coordinator guy is your qualification.

  Or that he was a coordinator on a losing team, who not one other NFL team with a head coach opening interviewed.
  
  We also know that like Chud, he was not anywhere near the first choice of the regime, and was the only guy who would take the job.
  
  For as smart as Haslam is in business, it is peculiar to me that he hasn't yet connected the dots as to why he can't close the deal on his desired coaching hires, and what the common denominator in those continued failings is.
• LJ

  

  like_that;1571198 wrote:@RapSheet: No way to know what kind of a coach Mike Pettine would be for #Browns. But have not talked to a coach who isn’t a huge fan of him. Great guy

  I think it's a bit unfair to judge any new coach of the Browns as a success or failure next year of they end up grabbing a good QB. Any decent coaching staff can get this team to at least .500 with a QB in place.
  
  If the draft goes well with the Browns, it could be a few years until anyone knows how good of a coach he is.
• thavoice

  LJ;1571207 wrote:I think it's a bit unfair to judge any new coach of the Browns as a success or failure next year of they end up grabbing a good QB. Any decent coaching staff can get this team to at least .500 with a QB in place.
  
  If the draft goes well with the Browns, it could be a few years until anyone knows how good of a coach he is.

  Agree with that. ANy sort of QB consistancy (good consistancy, they have had their share of bad consistancy) will add a few wins to the record next year. Once you have good QB play and progress is being made then you get guys believing and buying into what is going on instead of going through the motions. As bad as they ended up last year I bet if Hoyer had stayed healthy they would have been in the same situatoi as the steelers come week 17 in that they had a shot at making it. Its easy for team to tank when you dont have a leader at the QB spot
• lhslep134

  

  thavoice;1571209 wrote:As bad as they ended up last year I bet if Hoyer had stayed healthy they would have been in the same situatoi as the steelers come week 17

  Definitely agree. With a healthy Hoyer we may have even won the division.
• thavoice

  lhslep134;1571215 wrote:Definitely agree. With a healthy Hoyer we may have even won the division.

  I wouldnt go that far, but ya never know once the confidence start flowing.
• se-alum

  

  shook_17;1571072 wrote:Grossi is a fucking hack ha! I saw some tweets from the OBR that stated Haslam contacted McDaniels this week and was really high on him. It made me lol because if Haslam was that high on him he would have been offered the job instead of telling McDaniels he isn't the front runner.
  
  EDIT:
  
  If Pettine is hired and Schwartz comes aboard as DC, is he open to staying with the 3-4? the group as a whole? not sure if Jim has ran anything but 4-3.

  We're still better suited for a 4-3. Hopefully we go back to it.
• shook_17

  

  Mingo can't play DE not big enough. And I don't think Kruger is suited for it either.
  
  Same shit different year! Ha
• vball10set

  http://www.toledoblade.com/sports/2014/01/23/Search-Over-Browns-hire-Buffalo-coordinator-Mike-Pettine-as-coach-ends-25-day-search.html
• lhslep134

  

  My Buffalo friend is furious we took Pettine. I'll chalk it up as a W
• LJ

  

  lhslep134;1571271 wrote:My Buffalo friend is furious we took Pettine. I'll chalk it up as a W

  My BIL (Bills season ticket holder) said
  

  Same shit different year!

  
  
  lol