2014 Cleveland Browns Offseason Thread

• Terry_Tate

  

  Laley23;1673560 wrote:This class is gonna be pretty ridiculous.
  
  ODB, Watkins, Evans and Benjamin we know about.
  
  But, when Wayne retires, Moncrief will be a beast with Luck throwing to him.
  
  Mathews and Bryant have been pretty damn impressive as well.
  
  Not sure whats not to like about the class. Its is deep and top heavy all in one.

  And you didn't even name Brandin Cooks, Allen Robinson, John Brown, Allen Hurns, or Davante Adams, lol. So much depth in this class.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Laley23;1673563 wrote:I must be miss reading this post...

  Best ever was my "meh"
  
  No one is saying this class doesn't appear to be a really Good one.
• Laley23

  

  SportsAndLady;1673584 wrote:Best ever was my "meh"
  
  No one is saying this class doesn't appear to be a really Good one.

  Gotcha.
  
  Yeah, best ever is ridiculous to say after 10 weeks.
  
  But, it has the chance to be special. There are some really good looking WRs out there.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  Laley23;1673560 wrote:This class is gonna be pretty ridiculous.
  
  ODB, Watkins, Evans and Benjamin we know about.
  
  But, when Wayne retires, Moncrief will be a beast with Luck throwing to him.
  
  Mathews and Bryant have been pretty damn impressive as well.
  
  Not sure whats not to like about the class. Its is deep and top heavy all in one.

  This shows your colts bias in unreal fashion. Instead of naming cooks, Robinson, etc, you name moncrief
• Laley23

  

  DeyDurkie5;1673595 wrote:This shows your colts bias in unreal fashion. Instead of naming cooks, Robinson, etc, you name moncrief

  At no point was I naming a list in any kind of order. Simply throwing out names off the top of my head.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Subliminal bias..lol
• Laley23

  

  SportsAndLady;1673618 wrote:Subliminal bias..lol

  In listing him, probably lol. Since he is on the Colts, I always think of him when thinking about future WRs
  
  If I were to rank them, he would be around 10th though.
• Mulva

  

  I didn't say best rookie class ever. I said best collective rookie season ever.
• sleeper

  

  True or False: The Browns would be undefeated if they had Josh Gordon.
• BR1986FB

  sleeper;1673649 wrote:True or False: The Browns would be undefeated if they had Josh Gordon.

  False. They would've found a way to lose one of those. I think he may have been the difference maker in the Pittsburgh/Baltimore games but Hoyer was so epically bad in the JAX game that I don't think even Gordon could've saved him. Although, Gordon may have opened up the running game a little against JAX. 8-1, possibly.
  
  Now if we were talking Johnny Football, they would've been 11-0 in those nine games. :rolleyes:
• sleeper

  

  True or False: Cleveland would be 0-9 with Manziel at QB.
• Con_Alma

  False.
• BR1986FB

  sleeper;1673653 wrote:True or False: Cleveland would be 0-9 with Manziel at QB.

  Incomplete because I think Hoyer would've taken over, due to injury to Manziel, by now.
• thavoice

  sleeper;1673653 wrote:True or False: Cleveland would be 0-9 with Manziel at QB.

  False. they played the steelers twice so would beat them once no matter the QB
• lhslep134

  

  Mulva;1673642 wrote:I didn't say best rookie class ever. I said best collective rookie season ever.

  I got that. I don't think others did based on the conversation that followed.
• jmog

  I wouldn't say 0-9, but let's make the vast assumption that Manziel would be healthy for 9 games straight in the NFL while being a scrambler (big assumption). I'd say we'd be 3-6 or 4-5 at best right now with a rookie QB.
• Footwedge

  sleeper;1673653 wrote:True or False: Cleveland would be 0-9 with Manziel at QB.

  8-1. If you're 6-3 with the mediocre quarterback, you have to figure 1 or 2 more wins with a stud.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  Hey guys, why the fuck are you still on the offseason thread??
• GOONx19

  

  Because that was the last time the Hoyer/Manziel situation was actually a debate.
• Heretic

  

  GOONx19;1673867 wrote:Because that was the last time the Hoyer/Manziel situation was actually a debate.

  Except for two people. For them, it will be an eternal debate that will go on long after Hoyer is no longer a Brown.
  
  Next year, when the team is, say 1-3 with Johnny, nothing will be his fault. It will be all on Pettine and the front office for starting Hoyer and causing unrepairable damage to Johnny's psyche.