2014 Cleveland Browns Offseason Thread

• friendfromlowry

  Footwedge;1568688 wrote:Trade the first # 1 with a number 3 to move up and draft Johnny football. Trade the other number one and one of the 2's (and matbe have to throw in Benjamin) to get Sammy from Clemson. Sign a stud basketball player, preferably 6-9/6/10 who isn't quite good enough to make the NBA ala Gronkowski to post up in the red zone.. (Darius Thomas, Gates anyone?). Use the remaining number 2 and number 3 for right side offensive linemen. Hire a coach who isn't anal about a pocket passer and will allow "football" to scramble away. (he's better than both Wilson and Kappernackel).
  
  Count on Deon Lewis to be healthy (is as good as Matt Forte if healthy). And watch the scoreboard fly.
  
  On defense, utilize both Taylor and Wynn in a 4-3. Sign or draft a cornerback.
  
  Then I want to hear the new head coach hold a presser and say.. "This year we will win the fuckin super bowl".
  
  If Banner can't see the utter brilliance in my management style, then have fun being 4 and 12 again next year.

  Did you think up all of that by yourself or did a nine year old help?
• said_aouita

  

  like_that;1568242 wrote:It would be interesting to see what goes through your head. Mainly for the purposes of seeing how dumb people think.

  
  Another fine example of like_that responding with an insult .
  
  Try having an insightful thought for once and tell me why Ryan would not make a good head coach for the Browns.
  
  Take your time answering. Maybe even elevate your bad ankle.
  
  
  
  
  
  friggin' angry guido.
• GoChiefs

  

  Ray Horton hired as the Titans DC.
• SportsAndLady

  

  GoChiefs;1568701 wrote:Ray Horton hired as the Titans DC.

  Damn. Didn't see that coming
• SportsAndLady

  

  Footwedge;1568688 wrote:Trade the first # 1 with a number 3 to move up and draft Johnny football. Trade the other number one and one of the 2's (and matbe have to throw in Benjamin) to get Sammy from Clemson. Sign a stud basketball player, preferably 6-9/6/10 who isn't quite good enough to make the NBA ala Gronkowski to post up in the red zone.. (Darius Thomas, Gates anyone?). Use the remaining number 2 and number 3 for right side offensive linemen. Hire a coach who isn't anal about a pocket passer and will allow "football" to scramble away. (he's better than both Wilson and Kappernackel).
  
  Count on Deon Lewis to be healthy (is as good as Matt Forte if healthy). And watch the scoreboard fly.
  
  On defense, utilize both Taylor and Wynn in a 4-3. Sign or draft a cornerback.
  
  Then I want to hear the new head coach hold a presser and say.. "This year we will win the fuckin super bowl".
  
  If Banner can't see the utter brilliance in my management style, then have fun being 4 and 12 again next year.

  HOly hell this is so insanely stupid. lol
  
  Johnny football is better right now than Kaep and Wilson, who are QB'ing their teams in the NFC Championship tomorrow?
  
  Dion Lewis is better than Matt Forte? First of all, he's not even close. Second, why in the hell did you compare him to Matt Forte? They couldn't be more different RB's.
  
  And then all the other stupid stuff is pretty self-explanatory
• said_aouita

  

  Johnny football will be lucky if he has a longer NFL career than Tim Tebow. If the Browns draft Manzell it shows how inept the decision makers really are.
• like_that

  

  Footwedge;1568688 wrote:Trade the first # 1 with a number 3 to move up and draft Johnny football. Trade the other number one and one of the 2's (and matbe have to throw in Benjamin) to get Sammy from Clemson. Sign a stud basketball player, preferably 6-9/6/10 who isn't quite good enough to make the NBA ala Gronkowski to post up in the red zone.. (Darius Thomas, Gates anyone?). Use the remaining number 2 and number 3 for right side offensive linemen. Hire a coach who isn't anal about a pocket passer and will allow "football" to scramble away. (he's better than both Wilson and Kappernackel).
  
  Count on Deon Lewis to be healthy (is as good as Matt Forte if healthy). And watch the scoreboard fly.
  
  On defense, utilize both Taylor and Wynn in a 4-3. Sign or draft a cornerback.
  
  Then I want to hear the new head coach hold a presser and say.. "This year we will win the fuckin super bowl".
  
  If Banner can't see the utter brilliance in my management style, then have fun being 4 and 12 again next year.

  I want to believe you aren't being serious, but just so you don't get butt hurt, I'd like to know why the hell you would trade a pick for a guy that has a very good chance of dropping to their #4 spot. This would be the trent richardson trade all over again.

  said_aouita;1568695 wrote:Another fine example of like_that responding with an insult .
  
  Try having an insightful thought for once and tell me why Ryan would not make a good head coach for the Browns.
  
  Take your time answering. Maybe even elevate your bad ankle.
  
  
  
  
  
  friggin' angry guido.

  I don't need to take my time to give a low life like you a worthy response. We all (including yourself) know what you were doing with that post.

  GoChiefs;1568701 wrote:Ray Horton hired as the Titans DC.

  Not surprised here, honestly the more I thought about Ray, the more I thought he was overrated. I can't even count the amount of times the Browns D allowed the offense to convert on 3rd and long situations. Very frustrating. All the hard work to put the offense in a tough situation, and then they just allow a first down, because of Horton's over aggressive play calling. Also the fact he hardly played Phil Taylor was fucking stupid.
  

  said_aouita;1568714 wrote:Johnny football will be lucky if he has a longer NFL career than Tim Tebow. If the Browns draft Manzell it shows how inept the decision makers really are.

  Try having an insightful thought for once and tell us why you think his career wouldn't last as long as Tebow and how that would show us the Browns decision makers are inept /derpsaid.
• said_aouita

  

  like_that;1568715 wrote: We all (including yourself) know what you were doing with that post.
  
  
  
  Try having an insightful thought for once and tell us why you think his career wouldn't last as long as Tebow and how that would show us the Browns decision makers are inept /derpsaid.

  I believe Ryan would be a good fit in blue-collar Cleveland as a HC. The only problem is he'd not be a yes-man which seems what the owner wants.
  
  Why Johnny football won't make it in the NFL is obvious. Many of the same reasons you give why rg3 is a failure....
  
  Manziel is a scrambling small qb. He won't bounce off NFL players like he does in college. No pocket presence. He also does not have NFL QB arm strength.
  

  like_that;1568724 wrote:I actually don't give a fuck what you think (ever), I was just mocking you.
  

  
  More evidence you're an asshole.
• lhslep134

  

  Footwedge;1568688 wrote:Trade the first # 1 with a number 3 to move up and draft Johnny football. Trade the other number one and one of the 2's (and matbe have to throw in Benjamin) to get Sammy from Clemson. Sign a stud basketball player, preferably 6-9/6/10 who isn't quite good enough to make the NBA ala Gronkowski to post up in the red zone.. (Darius Thomas, Gates anyone?). Use the remaining number 2 and number 3 for right side offensive linemen. Hire a coach who isn't anal about a pocket passer and will allow "football" to scramble away. (he's better than both Wilson and Kappernackel).
  
  Count on Deon Lewis to be healthy (is as good as Matt Forte if healthy). And watch the scoreboard fly.
  
  On defense, utilize both Taylor and Wynn in a 4-3. Sign or draft a cornerback.
  
  Then I want to hear the new head coach hold a presser and say.. "This year we will win the fuckin super bowl".
  
  If Banner can't see the utter brilliance in my management style, then have fun being 4 and 12 again next year.

  This is officially a Cleveland thread now that we've gotten FW's fantastically amazing input.
• lhslep134

  

  said_aouita;1568720 wrote: Manzell is a scrambling small qb. He won't bounce off NFL players like he does in college.

  We have no idea if he's going to be as dumb as RG3 when it comes to running. Kaepernick is just as athletic as RG3 but doesn't run as stupidly.
  
  I don't think Manziel is like either of them. He's more like Wilson with the way he runs around and still keeps his eyes downfield. Once Kaep and RG3 start running around, they take off.
• like_that

  

  said_aouita;1568720 wrote:I believe Ryan would be a good fit in blue-collar Cleveland as a HC. The only problem is he'd not be a yes-man which seems what the owner wants.
  
  Why Johnny football won't make it in the NFL is obvious. Many of the same reasons you give why rg3 is a failure....
  
  Manzell is a scrambling small qb. He won't bounce off NFL players like he does in college. No pocket presence. He also does not have NFL QB arm strength.

  I actually don't give a fuck what you think (ever), I was just mocking you.
  
  Not to mention 90% of your post is incorrect.
• like_that

  

  lhslep134;1568723 wrote:We have no idea if he's going to be as dumb as RG3 when it comes to running. Kaepernick is just as athletic as RG3 but doesn't run as stupidly.
  
  I don't think Manziel is like either of them. He's more like Wilson with the way he runs around and still keeps his eyes downfield. Once Kaep and RG3 start running around, they take off.

  The base of RG3's offense is running. All the plays open up with his running. Manziel is a pass first QB, he just runs when it is necessary to extend the play. Huge difference.
• SportsAndLady

  

  I haven't been this stumped on a prospect in some time.
  
  I have no idea how Johnny football will end up as a pro. Literally 50/50 on him.
• like_that

  

  SportsAndLady;1568727 wrote:I haven't been this stumped on a prospect in some time.
  
  I have no idea how Johnny football will end up as a pro. Literally 50/50 on him.

  
  If he is drafted in a situation where he has no weapons, and a shitty line then I don't see him turning into a legit pro. Only QBs like Luck can overcome shitty lines or no real talent to throw to as rookies. Fortunately the Browns actually have the personnel that make it easier for a rookie QB to succeed. Great pass blocking line (when cousins isn't playing), and two pro bowl players to catch his passes.
• said_aouita

  

  like_that;1568724 wrote:I actually don't give a fuck what you think (ever), I was just mocking you.
  

  
  More evidence you're an asshole.
• said_aouita

  

  lhslep134;1568723 wrote:We have no idea if he's going to be as dumb as RG3 when it comes to running. Kaepernick is just as athletic as RG3 but doesn't run as stupidly.
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  Kaepernick - 6ft 4in 230 lbs 4.53 40 time
  rg3 - 6ft 2in 218 lbs 4.41 40 time
  Manziel - 6ft 1in 210 lbs (reported) 4.53 40 time
• lhslep134

  

  like_that;1568725 wrote:The base of RG3's offense is running. All the plays open up with his running. Manziel is a pass first QB, he just runs when it is necessary to extend the play. Huge difference.

  Exactly. Glad we're on the same page. Clearly said doesn't understand the difference.
• lhslep134

  

  SportsAndLady;1568727 wrote:I haven't been this stumped on a prospect in some time.
  
  I have no idea how Johnny football will end up as a pro. Literally 50/50 on him.

  At least the people I've talked to about him, it's been about 20/80. 20% think he's gonna be great 80% think he's gonna bust out. I'm closer to about 70/30 on him succeeding/failing.
• lhslep134

  

  said_aouita;1568732 wrote:Kaepernick - 6ft 4in 230 lbs 4.53 40 time
  rg3 - 6ft 2in 218 lbs 4.41 40 time
  Manziel - 6ft 1in 210 lbs (reported) 4.53 40 time

  WTF is your point? What does size have to do with running style?
• Pick6

  

  Gase reportedly leaning with staying with Denver if offered by the Browns
• SportsAndLady

  

  Pick6;1568746 wrote:Gase reportedly leaning with staying with Denver if offered by the Browns

  Lol there hasn't even been an interview. Any young guy is gonna be suckered in to be a HC over staying a coordinator
• like_that

  

  Pick6;1568746 wrote:Gase reportedly leaning with staying with Denver if offered by the Browns

  That's fine. Give me Quinn, Roman, or the niners D coordinator any day of the week.
• shook_17

  

  If gase is out give me Quinn from Seattle. He knows how to build a D, and I love the big secondary he uses. I don't know what they would do for OC. I heard Mike Murlarkey associated with somebody, I don't remember though. He did good with Matt Ryan in ATL
• se-alum

  

  I'm more concerned with Manziel being able to read a defense than I am with his "running style".
• Mulva

  

  Who the hell is Darius Thomas?