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2014 Cleveland Browns Offseason Thread

  • Mulva
    Footwedge;1568939 wrote:Where did I say Gronk was a former basketball player? I never did, clown. As for Lewis, he played at my alma mater and I can tell you he was a lot better than Forte.

    Root hard for your 4-12 Browns team next year and all of their Barkevious Mingos.

    The only direct reference to basketball players was in my post in 797 where I posted "Sign a stud basketball player, preferably 6-9/6/10 who isn't quite good enough to make the NBA ala Gronkowski to post up in the red zone.. (Darius Thomas, Gates anyone?)."

    In parentheses I lisyed the hoops players. "Ala Gronkowslki" refernces the size.
    You just quoted yourself bringing up players who weren't quite good enough to make the NBA ala Gronkowski. So yeah, you said Gronk was a basketball player.
    "Deon" Lewis was a lot better in college than Matt Forte is in the NFL? Brilliant insight.
    Darius Thomas still isn't a former basketball player turned NFL red zone target. He doesn't exist in the NFL.
    Antonio Gates is 6'4, not 6'9-10.

    You literally might know less about sports than anybody on the planet. And I'm including Classyposter in that comment.
  • Footwedge
    Dion Lewis stats and career from wiki...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dion_Lewis
  • Footwedge
    Mulva;1568942 wrote:You literally just quoted yourself bringing up players who weren't quite good enough to make the NBA ala Gronkowski. So yeah, you said Gronk was an NBA player.
    "Deon" Lewis was a lot better in college than Matt Forte is in the NFL? Brilliant insight.
    Darius Thomas still isn't a former basketball player turned NFL red zone target. He doesn't exist in the NFL.
    Antonio Gates is 6'4, not 6'9-10.


    You literally might know less about sports than anybody on the planet. And I'm including Classyposter in that comment.
    No I didn't. That's how you interpreted it. And I never mentioned Gates' size. You gonna bitch...get it right. The point is simple. Get an NBA D leaguer and pay him 10 times what he is making and post him up in the red zone. If you can't understand that, well then that's your fucking problem.
  • sportswizuhrd
    As for Lewis, he played at my alma mater

    Deon Louis career #'s Pitsburg

    2860 runnin yards
    30 TD's
    5.3 average

    52 times he caught the ball for 405 yards.
    1 TD

    3265 yards from scrimmage
    31 TD's

    I can tell you he was a lot better than Forte.

    Matthew Fortay career at Twolane
    4265 rushing yards
    39 TD's

    103 catches for 985 yards
    5 TD's

    5250 yards from scrimmage
    44 TD's.
    Footwedge;1568937 wrote:Look up Forte's college stats and compare to Lewis. You suck at this.
  • friendfromlowry
    Footwedge;1568937 wrote:And I've already proven Manziel's superiority over the 2 quarterbacks in the NFC title game.
    How did you prove this? All you did was cite that Manziel will potentially be drafted higher than them, as if that has any relevance. How can you propose one player is better than another when he hasn't taken a single NFL snap while the other two are playing in the NFC championship today. I see you conveniently neglected to address how Tom Brady was drafted near the end. If Manziel ends up falling to 4th, then he's not as a good as Ryan Leaf who was drafted 2nd, right?

    Footwedge makes Tiernan look intelligent lol
  • said_aouita
    shook_17;1568773 wrote:My biggest concern with Manzeil is his arm strength. If we had a dome I would say hell yes pull the trigger. Im a little iffy. But I want a qb at 4, We need one. I would love it if Bridgewater fell to us.
    This. Cleveland obviously is one of the worse NFL cities, specifically speaking weather in this case and a weak armed QB won't work in NEO.
    Johnny Football will help sell tickets but not win games.
  • vball10set
    said_aouita;1568957 wrote:
    Johnny Football will help sell tickets but not win games.
    I think this pertains more to the Texans than it does to the Browns. I'm sure people will buy individual game tix to see him initially, but I'm not so sure he's one to entice people to buy season tickets-at least not right away.
  • lhslep134
    said_aouita;1568957 wrote:This. Cleveland obviously is one of the worse NFL cities, specifically speaking weather in this case and a weak armed QB won't work in NEO.
    Johnny Football will help sell tickets but not win games.
    His arm strength isn't poor, it just isn't elite. A lot of QB's don't have elite arm strength. Accuracy is more important.
  • like_that
    lhslep134;1568968 wrote:His arm strength isn't poor, it just isn't elite. A lot of QB's don't have elite arm strength. Accuracy is more important.
    Prime example of that is manning this year. He statistically had his best season ever this year, and his arm strength isn't even close to being as strong as it used to be. Hell, he is probably in the bottom half of the NFL in terms of arm strength. As you said, I wouldn't consider Manziels arm strength weak. He doesn't have a canon like Rodgers, but he also doesn't have a potato arm like McCoy.

    Also Manziel is still pretty damn young. He can definitely improve his arm strength.
  • Ironman92
    I'm a little confused how it can be proven that Manziel is clearly better than RW or CK. As for drafting a 7'5 TE to improve their offensive red zone.....their defensive red zone is what killed them.
  • like_that
    Ironman92;1568979 wrote:I'm a little confused how it can be proven that Manziel is clearly better than RW or CK. As for drafting a 7'5 TE to improve their offensive red zone.....their defensive red zone is what killed them.
    Well, if we draft a 7'5 safety we can improve our red zone defense too.
  • Ironman92
    Red Zone offense for 2013

    #3 Cowboys
    #4 Lions
    #6 Raiders
    #7 Bears
    #9 Titans

    Browns were #16, ahead of the Panthers, Chargers and Packers
  • like_that
    Hoyer is throwing the ball BTW.
  • like_that
    Ironman92;1568983 wrote:Red Zone offense for 2013

    #3 Cowboys
    #4 Lions
    #6 Raiders
    #7 Bears
    #9 Titans

    Browns were #16, ahead of the Panthers, Chargers and Packers
    A running back not named McGahee changes that too.
  • Ironman92
  • Ironman92
    Browns defense was a very good 9th in yards allowed.....but the problem...

    This is the points allowed in 2013, not many schleps in the top 12
  • shook_17
    Footwedge;1568937 wrote:Look up Forte's college stats and compare to Lewis. You suck at this. And I've already proven Manziel's superiority over the 2 quarterbacks in the NFC title game.

    But go ahead and root for the Browns in picking another Mingo with a top first rounder. LOL. The fans on this board are just as inept as the management over the past 14 years.

    LOL you want to use college stats to compare NFL careers? Is this a fucking joke? So by your theory Ryan Leaf is going to be a better QB than Tom Brady. Go suck on some bricks you dumbass.
  • Crimson streak
    shook_17;1569018 wrote:LOL you want to use college stats to compare NFL careers? Is this a fucking joke? So by your theory Ryan Leaf is going to be a better QB than Tom Brady. Go suck on some bricks you dumbass.
    The best part about it is forte had way better college stays too lmao
  • GoChiefs
    I sure as hell hope La Confora is full of shit.

    http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-browns/cleveland-browns-1.270107/2014-nfl-draft-browns-willing-to-trade-up-if-necessary-to-nab-johnny-manziel-according-to-report-1.460449
  • like_that
    La Confora has been wrong with just about everything he has said in the last 2 months.
  • ts1227
    Hell, everyone has been wrong about this clusterfuck of a team the past 2 months since they defy all conventional wisdom on everything
  • LJ
    Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) tweeted at 0:58 PM on Sun, Jan 19, 2014:
    And @mortreport reports the Browns plan to have a second HC interview with Bills DC Mike Pettine.
  • Crimson streak
    LJ;1569032 wrote:Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) tweeted at 0:58 PM on Sun, Jan 19, 2014:
    And @mortreport reports the Browns plan to have a second HC interview with Bills DC Mike Pettine.
    Don't know too much about him but he must of had a good interview to get a second one. I think I really want Quinn as the head coach. I love his defensive philosophy and the players seem to love him and his intensity
  • like_that
    Browns also want a 2nd interview with Quinn. I think Quinn will be our next coach, and if he is, I am happy with that hire over every other hire other than the Zimmer hire.
  • said_aouita
    lhslep134;1568968 wrote:His arm strength isn't poor, it just isn't elite. A lot of QB's don't have elite arm strength. Accuracy is more important.
    You look at all the bad weather NFL teams who've made the playoffs lately and none of them have a small scrambling so-so strength armed qb.