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2013 Cleveland Browns Thread: RIP Chud

  • IggyPride00
  • DeyDurkie5
    IggyPride00;1559476 wrote:
    Literally the worst photoshop job I've seen in a while. You suck Iggy.
  • IggyPride00
    DeyDurkie5;1559481 wrote:Literally the worst photoshop job I've seen in a while. You suck Iggy.
    I saw it posted somewhere else and found it veryapropos to the current situation . I have no clue how to work photoshop.
  • SportsAndLady
    IggyPride00;1559482 wrote:I saw it posted somewhere else
    You should stop posting here and keep posting there
  • SportsAndLady
    ohiobucks1;1559461 wrote:I'm confused on why It's Chud's fault that we had no QB capable of playing in the NFL once Hoyer went down...
    The Browns were pretty much in every game..meaning, the QB play wasn't the issue. It was the reason why we didn't go 12-4, but it wasn't the reason why we went 4-12.
  • shook_17
    seeing on twitter Josh McDaniels has started calling around the NFL to assemble his staff. Sources say job is his if he wants it.
  • se-alum
    SportsAndLady;1559485 wrote:The Browns were pretty much in every game..meaning, the QB play wasn't the issue. It was the reason why we didn't go 12-4, but it wasn't the reason why we went 4-12.
    Then it's more on Horton, his unit is the one that gave up the leads. This had nothing to do with the on field product or the whole staff would've been let go. Surely you can see that. They just didn't like Chud.
  • SportsAndLady
    se-alum;1559534 wrote:Then it's more on Horton, his unit is the one that gave up the leads. This had nothing to do with the on field product or the whole staff would've been let go. Surely you can see that. They just didn't like Chud.
    The players stopped playing for Chud...surely you can see that.

    You fire a guy that players won't play for. Period.
  • vball10set
    [LEFT]
    The next coach in Cleveland, whoever that poor sap may be, will step smack dab into the NFL’s most bacteria-infested culture. And, like Chudzinski, aside from play selections and defensive schemes, he will have little or no say in how the operation is run.


    http://www.toledoblade.com/DaveHackenberg/2013/12/31/Sanity-and-lunacy.html#YW6i3ZcD5VR4GUsM.99    [/LEFT]
  • SportsAndLady
    vball10set;1559558 wrote:[LEFT]The next coach in Cleveland, whoever that poor sap may be, will step smack dab into the NFL’s most bacteria-infested culture. And, like Chudzinski, aside from play selections and defensive schemes, he will have little or no say in how the operation is run.
    Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/DaveHackenberg/2013/12/31/Sanity-and-lunacy.html#YW6i3ZcD5VR4GUsM.99    [/LEFT]
    No one cares what some hack journalist from the Toledo Blade has to say about the Browns.

    That "poor sap" will be getting paid millions of dollars a year. Cry some more for us, Toledo.
  • vball10set
    SportsAndLady;1559559 wrote:No one cares what some hack journalist from the Toledo Blade has to say about the Browns.

    That "poor sap" will be getting paid millions of dollars a year. Cry some more for us, Toledo.
    lol, don't kill the messenger, S&L, but you're right about one thing--the journalist's nickname is Hack (as in Dave Hackenberg). The Browns organization is a joke and the laughingstock of the league, period. Deal with it.
  • SportsAndLady
    vball10set;1559560 wrote:lol, don't kill the messenger, S&L, but you're right about one thing--the journalist's nickname is Hack (as in Dave Hackenberg). The Browns organization is a joke and the laughingstock of the league, period. Deal with it.
    Yeah, you're definitely just the messenger...

    Go become a Packers fan, vball.
  • vball10set
    SportsAndLady;1559561 wrote:Yeah, you're definitely just the messenger...

    Go become a Packers fan, vball.
    I didn't write it, I just posted it, so yes, a messenger. I applaud your loyalty, but again, they're a joke. What have they done in the past 10 years to dispel what I'm saying?
  • SportsAndLady
    vball10set;1559562 wrote:I didn't write it, I just posted it, so yes, a messenger. I applaud your loyalty, but again, they're a joke. What have they done in the past 10 years to dispel what I'm saying?
    Well are you saying it or are you just the messenger?
  • vball10set
    SportsAndLady;1559566 wrote:Well are you saying it or are you just the messenger?

    The messenger part referred to the article, but what I'm saying is that the organization is a joke. I'm giving my opinion is all, and not trying to downplay yours. You think they're moving in the right direction, I don't. I posted an article supporting my opinion, and you're free to post one supporting yours.
  • SportsAndLady
    vball10set;1559567 wrote:The messenger part referred to the article, but what I'm saying is that the organization is a joke. I'm giving my opinion is all, and not trying to downplay yours. You think they're moving in the right direction, I don't. I posted an article supporting my opinion, and you're free to post one supporting yours.
    Chud is a Toledo guy..of course you think they're now moving in the wrong direction, and of course the Toledo Blade writer thinks that, too.

    You can have your opinion, but it's incredibly biased and no Browns fan really cares that you are now a Packers fan.
  • vball10set
    SportsAndLady;1559568 wrote:Chud is a Toledo guy..of course you think they're now moving in the wrong direction, and of course the Toledo Blade writer thinks that, too.

    You can have your opinion, but it's incredibly biased and no Browns fan really cares that you are now a Packers fan.
    Fair enough, but I'd still like to hear what you think the Brown's organization has done over the least decade to show they're committed to winning.
  • SportsAndLady
    vball10set;1559572 wrote:Fair enough, but I'd still like to hear what you think the Brown's organization has done over the least decade to show they're committed to winning.
    The current Browns ownership has only been there for a year and some change.

    So, why would I comment on the regime 10 years ago?
  • IggyPride00
    I posted an article supporting my opinion, and you're free to post one supporting yours.
    Don't mind him. He loves Joe Banner and is feeling alot of shame right now because he has been exposed as a complete fraud. It's only natural for him to lash out like this. Not unlike the kid who learns Santa isn't real for the first time, they don't want to believe it so they just go on attack to everyone who ruined the fantasy for them.
  • SportsAndLady
    IggyPride00;1559576 wrote:Don't mind him. He loves Joe Banner and is feeling alot of shame right now because he has been exposed as a complete fraud. It's only natural for him to lash out like this. Not unlike the kid who learns Santa isn't real for the first time, they don't want to believe it so they just go on attack to everyone who ruined the fantasy for them.
    Yep, that's exactly it.

    I just love Joe Banner so much..you can tell by all my previous posts on him...oh wait...
  • pmoney25
    7 coaches and 20 starting QBs since 99. Is there really a worse Franchise of the new millennium than the Browns? I am no Browns hater but wow how can a team miss that many times on coaches, quarterbacks or players in general.
  • Dr. KnOiTaLL
    It is definitely saddening to see those numbers. I'm tired of watching us lose as well, but at some point, one of these regimes has to get it right, don't they? I mean, aside from the firing of Chud, the players seem to agree with the way things are being done, calling it the "right way" and "planning for the future" and whatnot. Everyone second guessed the Trent trade, and now it looks like grand larceny. We're all so used to seeing these things fail that we immediately fly off the handle when a decision is made. Let's wait and see how this thing plays out. The one thing I think they need to be careful of is keeping the players in a positive mindset. All these guys are angry, and we can't afford to lose these guys who are part of our core.
  • IggyPride00
    Dr. KnOiTaLL;1559602 wrote:It is definitely saddening to see those numbers. I'm tired of watching us lose as well, but at some point, one of these regimes has to get it right, don't they? I mean, aside from the firing of Chud, the players seem to agree with the way things are being done, calling it the "right way" and "planning for the future" and whatnot. Everyone second guessed the Trent trade, and now it looks like grand larceny. We're all so used to seeing these things fail that we immediately fly off the handle when a decision is made. Let's wait and see how this thing plays out. The one thing I think they need to be careful of is keeping the players in a positive mindset. All these guys are angry, and we can't afford to lose these guys who are part of our core.
    If there is one guy out there that can unify a locker room it is definitely Josh McDaniels.
  • bases_loaded
    What did Chud do to warrant outrage over his firing?

    Team got worse, terrible game management, players quit.

    5 pro bowlers 4 wins.
  • Dr. KnOiTaLL
    bases_loaded;1559608 wrote:What did Chud do to warrant outrage over his firing?

    Team got worse, terrible game management, players quit.

    5 pro bowlers 4 wins.
    He was nice to them? Not exactly what a head coaches job is, but I'm fairly certain that's part of the reason he was excused.