Tribe Off Season/Hot Stove thread.

• Crimson streak

  

  Laley23;1395979 wrote:Seriously?
  
  He had his career ruined with injury and lack of pace. If he can regain 95 consistently I wouldnt doubt he moves into our top 2 of the rotation.

  
  Yes. Francona has even said its crazy how good he is right now. As long as he stays healthy he should make the rotation. From all accounts he was locating his fastball very well and only got hit hard once and that was a hanging breaking pitch.
• Crimson streak

  

  He was also pitching a bit in winter ball and was consistently hitting 92-93-94 and looked like his old self. The key for him would be to stay healthy
• lhslep134

  

  That would be amazing if we got anything useful out of Kazmir.
• Crimson streak

  

  lhslep134;1396015 wrote:That would be amazing if we got anything useful out of Kazmir.

  
  I think he is really going to surprise people.
• HitsRus

  

  Anybody know what the radar on Ubaldo was?
• TBone14

  

  That is promising news on Kazmir. Looking at his career numbers, 2005-2008 his highest ERA was 3.77 and 3 of those years below 3.5. Never had many wins but he was on some awful Tampa teams. I don't know if we can expect that form but if we got that it would be a huge, huge boost. To say the least.
• Crimson streak

  

  HitsRus;1396129 wrote:Anybody know what the radar on Ubaldo was?

  
  From everything I have heard. Him and Francona are working on him getting to 95mph. Francona was helping him with his mechanics all winter to get him to that 95. If he's hitting 92 or lower he gets rocked but when he hits 95 or higher he always has a very good outing.
• HitsRus

  

  http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130226&content_id=42028566&vkey=news_cle&c_id=cle
  
  Tribe getting ready to run using newfound speed.....
  
  Well...so much for the undefeated season Tribe loses to Royals 4-1 yesterday.
  Francona names Justin Masterson named opening day starter.
• iclfan2

  

  Indians making hot dogs $3 and 12oz beers $4. Dolan MUST be on a 3 month bender.
• Laley23

  

  Im pretty excited about that news on the concessions. Maybe I can get TWO beers this year!!! lol
• GOONx19

  

  There's a good article about the team in this week's SI.
• HitsRus

  

  That is a good article^^^...and OSU's Braxton Miler is on the cover to boot! Good to see some positive press. The negativity the previous years(self inflicted) was getting suffocating.
  
  Tribe beats Chi Sox 9-7 yesterday....Mike McDade(1B) and Matt Carson(OF) are making a case for themselves. Masterson gets roughed up, but Kaczmir looks good.
  
  Perez out for a month with a shoulder strain:thumbdown:
• CLEconomically Speaking

  

  HitsRus;1398853 wrote:That is a good article^^^...and OSU's Braxton Miler is on the cover to boot! Good to see some positive press. The negativity the previous years(self inflicted) was getting suffocating.
  
  Tribe beats Chi Sox 9-7 yesterday....Mike McDade(1B) and Matt Carson(OF) are making a case for themselves. Masterson gets roughed up, but Kaczmir looks good.
  
  Perez out for a month with a shoulder strain:thumbdown:

  Can we trade him yet?
• royal_k

  

  Ubaldo gets shelled...Raburn with another HR, and he's a non-roster player. I think he's making a statement.
  
  http://www.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130302&content_id=42203570&c_id=cle&partnerId=fb_content_CLE
• Crimson streak

  

  royal_k;1399135 wrote:Ubaldo gets shelled...Raburn with another HR, and he's a non-roster player. I think he's making a statement.
  
  http://www.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130302&content_id=42203570&c_id=cle&partnerId=fb_content_CLE

  
  Ubaldo got credited for 5 runs but when he was pitching I believe he gave up 2 and the guy that came in have up the rest. He didn't have it today but I liked how he battled the first 2 innings.
• HitsRus

  

  There's a difference between how a guy goes about spring training when they have a guaranteed spot. Those guys are working on pitches and getting ready. Guys that are in competition for roster spots are a different story. Those guys are pitching as if their career depends on it.
• CLEconomically Speaking

  

  I think Kazmir is a lock for the rotation at this point. Thoughts?
• HitsRus

  

  I think there are going to be some tough roster cuts near the end. Some of it may come down to who we can stash at AAA.
• royal_k

  

  Kazmir and Dice k have both been impressive. Of the 2, I'd prefer Kazmir. Hit's is right. There's going to be some tough decisions at the end of camp.
• CLEconomically Speaking

  

  Dice k has looked good but he just doesn't have the velocity. It'd be interesting to see him come on in relief though. That delivery would definitely create timing issues
• Footwedge

  Crimson streak;1399138 wrote:Ubaldo got credited for 5 runs but when he was pitching I believe he gave up 2 and the guy that came in have up the rest. He didn't have it today but I liked how he battled the first 2 innings.

  geez....just when you thought Pat Shurmer was officially gone.
• HitsRus

  

  geez....just when you thought Pat Shurmer was officially gone.

  :laugh: no offense crimson, but I thought the same thing. The time for Ubaldo to step up is now....no more excuses. In his defense, it is spring training and pitchers who know they have a guaranteed spot are working on their stuff, and are not necesarily concerned with results..YET. BUT when the season starts....he better be able to get guys out.....we are not going to care about how he battled.....and I certainly hope we never hear this out of Tito's mouth.
• royal_k

  

  Ubaldo pitches well and Swisher and Giambi go deep.
  
  http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130307&content_id=42416914&vkey=news_cle&c_id=cle
• Crimson streak

  

  HitsRus;1402399 wrote::laugh: no offense crimson, but I thought the same thing. The time for Ubaldo to step up is now....no more excuses. In his defense, it is spring training and pitchers who know they have a guaranteed spot are working on their stuff, and are not necesarily concerned with results..YET. BUT when the season starts....he better be able to get guys out.....we are not going to care about how he battled.....and I certainly hope we never hear this out of Tito's mouth.

  
  Oh I agree but it seemed like last year he would give up 2 hits and then he would melt down and 2 hits turned into 3-4 runs. I feel like he will have a solid bounce back year.
• like_that

  

  Crimson streak;1402478 wrote:Oh I agree but it seemed like last year he would give up 2 hits and then he would melt down and 2 hits turned into 3-4 runs. I feel like he will have a solid bounce back year.

  
  It didnt seem like that... It DID happen. The tribe seems to do a good job of placing mentally weak pitchers on the rotation. Carmona was the fucking worst. He could be having a great outing, all of a sudden a guy gets on base with TWO outs and Carmona implodes to give up 4 runs.