Week 7: Cleveland Browns at Indianapolis Colts

• zach24oz

  Weeden has been playing well the last few weeks IMO. It's not his fault that the WRs are dropping TD passes and just "passes" in general. Yes, he's had his mistakes and bad throws, but that's expected...then again he's played well enough to be my guy going forward for the Browns, just need guys who can catch around him and bulk up the D. And get another coach.
• BR1986FB

  like_that;1300879 wrote:Still waiting for you to name somebody who suggested to keep shurmur....

  Jason LaConfora
• BR1986FB

  said_aouita;1300883 wrote:Weeden is playing better it seems every week. What position do you consider is the largest need for the Browns?

  Defense....several positions.
• wes_mantooth

  

  BR1986FB;1300890 wrote:Defense....several positions.

  Linebacker is a glaring need....also, an edge rusher(not sure what the hell has happened to Sheard).
  
  Oline needs some attention as well
• BR1986FB

  zach24oz;1300886 wrote:Weeden has been playing well the last few weeks IMO. It's not his fault that the WRs are dropping TD passes and just "passes" in general. Yes, he's had his mistakes and bad throws, but that's expected...then again he's played well enough to be my guy going forward for the Browns, just need guys who can catch around him and bulk up the D. And get another coach.

  Since the week 1 debacle he's had 9 TD's, 6 INT's and his passer rating, which I think it's a joke stat, has to be close to 90. QB is way down the list of this teams' needs going into 2013, most likely. Biggest need? Head Coach.
• Crimson streak

  

  wes_mantooth;1300892 wrote:Linebacker is a glaring need....also, an edge rusher(not sure what the hell has happened to Sheard).
  
  Oline needs some attention as well

  
  Manti te'o would be nice
• shook_17

  

  wes_mantooth;1300892 wrote:Linebacker is a glaring need....also, an edge rusher(not sure what the hell has happened to Sheard).
  
  Oline needs some attention as well

  i don't know if they are focusing more on sheard this year because we have no other threats? but i would love Teo in the draft and a stud DE in free agency if there are any coming out. or maybe a saftey usama young is trash. i can play better at safety than this fool and i just had back surgery on wednesday. they should have keep david sims from the preseason so that dude could keep playing instead of trading him to the eagles.
• Rotinaj

  

  Head coach is defintely the biggest need. Weeden had a bad 2nd half because Shurmur called fucking 40 yard passes every other play.
• BR1986FB

  
• KR1245

  

  
• zach24oz

  And when did T Rich leave the game? My power was out for about 10-15min. And is it just another rib injury or what?
• shook_17

  

  is there really a chance shurmur is fired this week or is it just us fans hoping he is? haslam looked pretty pissed off in the box today.
• Pick6

  

  BR1986FB;1300900 wrote:

  scoring 13 points in a game hardly constitutes "having an offense", especially against the Colts.
• Mulva

  

  zach24oz;1300904 wrote:And when did T Rich leave the game? My power was out for about 10-15min. And is it just another rib injury or what?

  I don't think he re-injured anything, he just wasn't healthy to begin with and obviously wasn't ready to come back.
• BR1986FB

  Pick6;1300908 wrote:scoring 13 points in a game hardly constitutes "having an offense"

  Offense is playing well enough to win games, imo. Defense is letting this team down. Yeah, they might get some opportunitistic turnovers but when you're giving up almost 450 ypg on defense you have a MAJOR issue on that side of the ball.
  
  And they came into today averaging 22 ppg on OFFENSE. That should be enough to win games.
• wes_mantooth

  

  BR1986FB;1300913 wrote:Offense is playing well enough to win games, imo. Defense is letting this team down. Yeah, they might get some opportunitistic turnovers but when you're giving up almost 450 ypg on defense you have a MAJOR issue on that side of the ball.

  True, but they only gave up 17 points....as ugly as it was...it should have been enough. A dropped touchdown and absolutely terrible playcalling is the culprit here.
• BR1986FB

  wes_mantooth;1300914 wrote:True, but they only gave up 17 points....as ugly as it was...it should have been enough. A dropped touchdown and absolutely terrible playcalling is the culprit here.

  Today they gave up 17 points. Up until today it was 27 ppg.
• Pick6

  

  BR1986FB;1300913 wrote:Offense is playing well enough to win games, imo. Defense is letting this team down. Yeah, they might get some opportunitistic turnovers but when you're giving up almost 450 ypg on defense you have a MAJOR issue on that side of the ball.

  So its alright if the offense scores only 13 points, but not ok if the defense gives up 17 points?
  League average for points per game:23 points
  League average for points given up per game: 23 points
  
  
  The Browns didnt lose because of the D...no matter how much you want to nut-hug Weeden. And I'm not saying he didnt play well, Im saying is your love with him is clouding your vision.
• shook_17

  

  ^^ lol what does weeden have to do with the the defense letting luck and vick ballard have their way with our defense. you are a fucking ididot. aren't you a cowboys fan?
• Rotinaj

  

  If 186 yards and 0 passing tds is having his way with us I hope every qb has their way w us.
• dazedconfused

  

  i like gordon saying the loss was on him. hopefully he comes out next sunday ready to rip san diego's collective heads off to make up for it
• lhslep134

  

  wes_mantooth;1300914 wrote:True, but they only gave up 17 points....as ugly as it was...it should have been enough. A dropped touchdown and absolutely terrible playcalling is the culprit here.

  
  Absolutely
• lhslep134

  

  BR1986FB;1300913 wrote:Offense is playing well enough to win games, imo. Defense is letting this team down. Yeah, they might get some opportunitistic turnovers but when you're giving up almost 450 ypg on defense you have a MAJOR issue on that side of the ball.
  
  And they came into today averaging 22 ppg on OFFENSE. That should be enough to win games.

  
  
  Bolded for TOTAL IRRELEVANCY. What consequence does what happened previously have on today's game?
  
  
  The defense wasn't terrible, although they didn't play well, but the offense sucked. Playcalling and the offense are to blame.
• BR1986FB

  Rotinaj;1300974 wrote:If 186 yards and 0 passing tds is having his way with us I hope every qb has their way w us.

  Agree with this. Weeden outplayed him...team just didn't do enough.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Lol only in Cleveland do you hear this shit, man.
  
  "If you just take out one game, he's been decent."
  
  "our offense is playing well" 13 points against the lowly Colts
  
  "our coach calls bad plays that make our QB look bad"
  
  "I'm not going to blame it on the offense because they usually score 22 points a game."