Cleveland Cavaliers 2012-13

• SportsAndLady

  

  Rotinaj;1379036 wrote:Tractor Traylor.

  Jamari Traylor?
  
  http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/56653/jamari-traylor
• SportsAndLady

  

  wildcats20;1379034 wrote:Just curious, who is Bron going to bring with him?

  It all depends on how much money room we have..
• like_that

  

  Has everyone forgotten that Gilbert pretty much publicly told LeBron to go fuck himself? They would first have to get thru that, then as somebody has already mentioned they would need to convince him. Compared to the other NBA player we all know how much of an attention whore drama queen LeBron is when it comes to being talked to in FA. So to recap:
  
  1. LeBron and Gilbert need to make amends.
  
  2. They actually have to pamper and convince him to come back.
  
  IMO, that is too much time and stress for Gilbert to deal with when he can be busy trying to make the team better with other options.
  
  
  Also, we are fucking talking about 1.5 seasons from now. At least wait until the all star break next year to begin this chatter.
• wildcats20

  

  SportsAndLady;1379076 wrote:It all depends on how much money room we have..

  
  So now guys are going to want to play in Cleveland?
  
  Who is on this magical wishlist? Durant? Howard? D Rose? Westbrook?
• SportsAndLady

  

  wildcats20;1379102 wrote:So now guys are going to want to play in Cleveland?
  
  Who is on this magical wishlist? Durant? Howard? D Rose? Westbrook?

  It was a stretch thinking you would have understood that I was making fun of footwedge, haha
  

  Footwedge;1379005 wrote:And if there is money room, he'll talk somebody into coming with him.

• like_that

  

  wildcats20;1379102 wrote:So now guys are going to want to play in Cleveland?
  
  Who is on this magical wishlist? Durant? Howard? D Rose? Westbrook?

  The city of Cleveland in general is starting to pick up. You just watch in 2 years!
• wildcats20

  

  SportsAndLady;1379103 wrote:It was a stretch thinking you would have understood that I was making fun of footwedge, haha

  
  Missed his comment.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  wildcats20;1379102 wrote:So now guys are going to want to play in Cleveland?
  
  Who is on this magical wishlist? Durant? Howard? D Rose? Westbrook?

  Wilt
  Big O
  Bill Russell
  MJ
  Blouses
• Commander of Awesome

  

  2013 draft options for Cavaliers
  
  
  The defection of LeBron James from the Cleveland Cavaliers two-and-half years ago was the NBA equivalent of Armageddon. The Cavs and their fan base were decimated by the loss.
  It can take up to a decade for a team to recover from such things. The good news is that for the Cavs, things are already looking up in a major way.
  Yes, they are currently on pace to have, for the third season in a row, one of the worst records in the NBA. Yes, they are ranked 27th in the league in offense efficiency and 28th in the league in defensive efficiency. They are 28th in the league in True Shooting Percentage.
  They can't score, they can't defend and they can't shoot a lick.
  But that's only half the story.
  
  One of the reasons that LeBron bolted was because the team, as a whole, lacked young talent to build around. There were no superstars in the pipeline, just role players who put an undue burden on the Cavs superstar.
  Three years later, that's all changing. Point guard Kyrie Irving was named to the All-Star team during his sophomore season. Second-year forward Tristan Thompson has suddenly started playing up to his lofty draft status -- averaging 15.1 points and 10.9 rebounds in the month of January. Rookie Dion Waiters has lived up to his reputation for both good and bad. He's shown he can score at a high clip in the league -- he's just doing it with too many questionable shots at the moment. Rookie center Tyler Zeller is also getting big minutes and is proving to be a serviceable big man in the middle.
  To top it off, the Cavs have an interesting trade chip in big man Anderson Varejao. The big Brazilian was playing like an All-Star this season before he went down with an injury. He could draw interest this summer if he recovers from a blood clot and quad injury that will keep him out the remainder of the season.
  In short, the Cavs have pieces -- lots of them -- to start building a contender. Nail the No. 1 pick again, and maybe, just maybe, they'll have a winning argument to lure James back home when he becomes a free agent after the 2013-14 season (assuming he exercises an ETO).
  Here's a look at Cleveland's best options if it gets the No. 1 pick.
  Good Fits: Nerlens Noel, Shabazz Muhammad, Alex Len, Otto Porter
  The Cavs have their point guard of the future. Thompson is quickly becoming their power forward of the future, and assuming Waiters continues to develop, he should be able to lock down the two guard spot. So the team's biggest needs will be at center and small forward.
  Noel looks like an obvious fit. The team could use a defensive stopper who will block shots, rebound and run up and down the floor on the fast break. He's a nice compliment to their other young big, Zeller, and gives them even more flexibility to trade Varejao this summer.
  Muhammad will be interesting as well. He's a high-motor player who can fill it up on the offensive end of the floor. He's not afraid to take big shots, can play multiple positions and is, by all accounts, a super-competitive hard worker. He could easily end up averaging 20 points per game during some point in his NBA career.
  Len is another option in the middle. The Cavs thrived for years with Zydrunas Ilgauskas in the middle, and Len could be his heir. He's big, mobile, skilled and seems to be only scratching the surface of what he could be. If the Cavs are prioritizing offense over defense, Len could get the nod over Noel.
  Finally, there's Porter. I don't think he'll rise to the level of a No. 1 pick, but he has all the attributes of being the perfect wing man for an elite player like Irving. He's unselfish, versatile, can shoot and defend and is a high character player. If the Cavs fall somewhat short of the No. 1 pick, keep an eye on Porter as their guy.
  Questionable Fits: Ben McLemore, Anthony Bennett
  McLemore now sits atop the draft boards of a number of NBA teams, though he might not be the right guy for Cleveland. With Irving and Waiters entrenched in the backcourt, the team has more pressing needs. The Cavs could try to play McLemore at the three. His game is well suited to the position; he's just undersized for a three. Given more pressing needs, I think they'd likely opt for a different player.
  Bennett would also be intriguing, especially if the Cavs projected him as a three. I just see too many similarities with the already undersized Thompson to make him a likely No. 1 pick in Cleveland.
  Best Fit: Noel
  In 2004, the Cavs drafted Varejao -- a hyper, athletic big man who could rebound and run the floor. For the first seven years of his career, Varejao never averaged more than nine points per game, but he made a major impact on the defensive end of the floor. Noel projects as a more athletic, better shot-blocking version of Varejao.
  With the Cavs ranked 28th in defensive efficiency, Noel seems like an almost perfect fit. He's an elite NBA shot-blocker, runs the floor like a guard and once he spends a few years in an NBA weight room, should be a defensive monster. His offensive game is a major work in progress, but with an elite point guard like Irving running the show, he should be able to get 10 points a night just on lobs.
• Footwedge

  wildcats20;1379102 wrote:So now guys are going to want to play in Cleveland?
  
  Who is on this magical wishlist? Durant? Howard? D Rose? Westbrook?

  Maybe all 4. Except I wouldn't want Howard.
• Footwedge

  like_that;1379096 wrote: 1. LeBron and Gilbert need to make amends.
  
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  George Steinbrenner...meet Billy Martin. Nobody with even half a brain would see what happened in the past as a problem.
  
  As for talking about this in a year and a half, welll that's fine. The reason that it's being discussed now is because LeBron has been very outspoken about returning to Cleveland.
• like_that

  

  Footwedge;1379573 wrote:George Steinbrenner...meet Billy Martin. Nobody with even half a brain would see what happened in the past as a problem.
  
  As for talking about this in a year and a half, welll that's fine. The reason that it's being discussed now is because LeBron has been very outspoken about returning to Cleveland.

  I am not saying it can't be done, but it is still an obstacle in getting LeBron here. George/Billy was a love/hate relationship too. LeBron pretty much threw Gilbert under the bus, and Gilbert pretty much told LeBron to go fuck himself.
• Footwedge

  like_that;1379646 wrote:I am not saying it can't be done, but it is still an obstacle in getting LeBron here. George/Billy was a love/hate relationship too. LeBron pretty much threw Gilbert under the bus, and Gilbert pretty much told LeBron to go fuck himself.

  I do agree that my George/Billy analogy was a huge stretch, but I don't think it will be an obstacle ....at all. Now my daughter vehemently disagrees with me.
  
  Maybe I'm breaking out with another case of clevelandsportsitis when I say this. But other than Kyrie, the rookies the Cavs have don't have me pulling my pud the way others here do. The team is absolutely horrible...even with a great point guard.
  
  Waiters for example...everytime I watch him play, I shake my head. Granted, I don't watch the Cavs much....because they don't have the desire to play defense. But I can see why the kid never even started at the collegiate level.
  
  Thompson? Until he can shoot a 15 footer I'll never be sold on him. Zeller? Below average in my book.
  
  Sure, they are young. Some players do improve over time. But I don't see this team ever contending for anything...until they improve their roster.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Is McLemore undersized at the 3? Man, he's 6'5''
  
  Is that undersized in the NBA?
• Pick6

  

  Footwedge;1379654 wrote: But I don't see this team ever contending for anything...until they improve their roster.

  no shit. Nobody is complacent with the current roster.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  anyone watching this game? Cavs need to get their head out of the ass.
• Crimson streak

  

  SportsAndLady;1379678 wrote:Is McLemore undersized at the 3? Man, he's 6'5''
  
  Is that undersized in the NBA?

  
  Yeah he's a little too small for sf. Sucks too I think he's a stud. I do like Muhammad though.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Stuckey is abusing Waiters
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Gee is terrible on offense, just turrible
• Azubuike24

  

  I was excited for Philly/Sactown and Cleveland/Detroit tonight. Strictly to watch Philly, some UK guys and Kyrie.
  
  Man, both games are just bad basketball. All disappointing squads...except maybe Sacramento, who most expected to be the worst in the league, but have recovered a bit since starting horribly.
• Pick6

  

  I dont think anybody was thinking Sac was going to be worse than Charlotte and The Wiz.
• Azubuike24

  

  Maybe not. Close though. 2 months ago if you told me they would only be 13 under .500, I would've said no way. They lost like 12 of their first 15...
• Commander of Awesome

  

  UGLY game tonight, no doubt.
• Mulva

  

  The Cavs are the worst defensive team in the league. That's the biggest reason why they're nowhere close to being a contender.
• hoops23

  

  Mulva;1379730 wrote:The Cavs are the worst defensive team in the league. That's the biggest reason why they're nowhere close to being a contender.

  Not that it matters much, but I'd say 2nd worst at the very worst. Charlotte is beyond horrible on defense.