Cleveland Cavaliers 2012-13

• Mulva

  

  KR1245;1383932 wrote:The Bobcats are awful, I know that the Cavs are only 3 games better in the win column but it seems like these teams are miles apart

  I have no idea how Charlotte started so well. It was like the Cavs the first year without LeBron, except the Bobcats are way worse than that team was.
  
  It's crazy that a 5 team division could include possibly the 3 worst in the NBA.
• sleeper

  

  Mulva;1383939 wrote:I have no idea how Charlotte started so well. It was like the Cavs the first year without LeBron, except the Bobcats are way worse than that team was.
  
  It's crazy that a 5 team division could include possibly the 3 worst in the NBA.

  Charlotte is terrible. They are in a much worse position than the Cavs.
• sleeper

  

  Also Grant is the best GM in the league. I don't care about any other GM, the guy gets it done.
• wildcats20

  

  sleeper;1383946 wrote:Charlotte is terrible. They are in a much worse position than the Cavs.

  
  I honestly can't think of a team that has ever been in this bad of a position. The Bobcats are so bad. And it's not just the players and team, the whole damn organization needs to be blown up.
• SportsAndLady

  

  sleeper;1383950 wrote:Also Grant is the best GM in the league. I don't care about any other GM, the guy gets it done.

  Grant is awesome..not the best yet, but he's made all the right moves.
• like_that

  

  SportsAndLady;1384030 wrote:Grant is awesome..not the best yet, but he's made all the right moves.

  Yeah, if this team explodes and becomes contenders year in and year out, then label him as the best. As of right now, he is doing well, but there are still a lot of "ifs" that need to come together.
• Footwedge

  Pick6;1380472 wrote:Is averaging more points,assists, and better shooting % off the bench than Jamal Crawford and JR Smith pathetic? (That stat is a few weeks old, but the fact that he was playing at that level is impressive). Waiters has potential to be great if he can develop consistency.

  He had a rare good game tonight. I grade him out as a D player for the season. I don't give a shit about Crawford or JR Smith either.
• CLEconomically Speaking

  

  Cavs need to ink this kid...
  
  [video=youtube;qmMbm78sEB4][/video]
• Rotinaj

  

  Footwedge;1384123 wrote:He had a rare good game tonight. I grade him out as a D player for the season. I don't give a shit about Crawford or JR Smith either.

  Lol. I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't even watched a single game this season.
• sleeper

  

  CLEconomically Speaking;1384132 wrote:Cavs need to ink this kid...

  The first law of the NBA: The more white people you have on your team, your odds of having a bad time approach 1.
  
  This kid needs to go back in time and get a black father.
• Footwedge

  Rotinaj;1384160 wrote:Lol. I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't even watched a single game this season.

  I have watched portions of maybe 12 games this year. I couldn't stand the lack of effort on the defensive side and I couldn't stand Waiters' play.
  
  I do refer to the Cavs stat line and see that Waiters is every bit as bad as what he looked like live.
  
  As for the GM making all the right moves...I actually agree with LikeThat. Get a grip people. This team blows. Time will tell if the GM did the right things.
• sleeper

  

  like_that;1384046 wrote:Yeah, if this team explodes and becomes contenders year in and year out, then label him as the best. As of right now, he is doing well, but there are still a lot of "ifs" that need to come together.

  The biggest flaw of this team is inexperience. This core is solid and if we add a strong wing in this next year's draft class we will be set for years. Grant has basically hoodwinked teams out of valuable assets for pieces we don't give a flying F about. I mean who's better?
• hangonsloopy

  

  Footwedge;1384511 wrote:I have watched portions of maybe 12 games this year. I couldn't stand the lack of effort on the defensive side and I couldn't stand Waiters' play.
  
  I do refer to the Cavs stat line and see that Waiters is every bit as bad as what he looked like live.
  
  As for the GM making all the right moves...I actually agree with LikeThat. Get a grip people. This team blows. Time will tell if the GM did the right things.

  
  You just admitted you haven't watched an entire game this year but you say they blow? Anyone that pays attention and watches them can see they have drastically improved overall, and IMO are starting to turn the corner. Last night they did exactly what they were supposed to do. Crush a horrible team and never let up.
• Heretic

  

  hangonsloopy;1384638 wrote:You just admitted you haven't watched an entire game this year but you say they blow? Anyone that pays attention and watches them can see they have drastically improved overall, and IMO are starting to turn the corner. Last night they did exactly what they were supposed to do. Crush a horrible team and never let up.

  And if you refer to stat lines and the like, you may notice in the standings that a team that is currently 15-34 overall...is 6-4 in their last 10 games. The sort of thing that a rational person takes under consideration when pointing out how good/sucky a team is at any given point in time.
• Footwedge

  Heretic;1384647 wrote:And if you refer to stat lines and the like, you may notice in the standings that a team that is currently 15-34 overall...is 6-4 in their last 10 games. The sort of thing that a rational person takes under consideration when pointing out how good/sucky a team is at any given point in time.

  I'll concede this...the Cavs are much better after pulling in Speights and his buds from Memphis. Before that trade, they were one of the 3 worst teams in basketball.
  
  I have watched more since the trade. The Cavs biggest weakness besides overall team defense is their bigs. Speights....and the improvement of Thompson lately (happy now?) has been nice to see.
  
  I'm not saying this team isn't getting better, but they are 500 at best next year. If they get to that level, time to bring back LeBron and one of his buddies and we will once again have the best team in the NBA.
• Pick6

  

  Footwedge;1384751 wrote:I'll concede this...the Cavs are much better after pulling in Speights and his buds from Memphis. Before that trade, they were one of the 3 worst teams in basketball.
  
  I have watched more since the trade. The Cavs biggest weakness besides overall team defense is their bigs. Speights....and the improvement of Thompson lately (happy now?) has been nice to see.
  
  I'm not saying this team isn't getting better, but they are 500 at best next year. If they get to that level, time to bring back LeBron and one of his buddies and we will once again have the best team in the NBA.

  lately?
• Rotinaj

  

  Pick6;1384836 wrote:lately?

  He sucks!!!!!!!!!!! Need to cut him and waiters ASAP. Walton and Casspi need more minutes.
• Footwedge

  Pick6;1384836 wrote:lately?

  Yes lately.
• hoops23

  

  Footwedge;1384919 wrote:Yes lately.

  Thompson has been tearing it up ever since Andy went down. It's obvious they don't gel on the court together.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Loving that TT is keeping up the production. I was skeptical that he was pulling a JJ Hickson, glad to see he's not.
• mucalum49

  

  hoops23;1384929 wrote:Thompson has been tearing it up ever since Andy went down. It's obvious they don't gel on the court together.

  Which is why I am pulling for the Cavs to take a look at Isaiah Austin in the draft (maybe with the hopefully Lakers pick?). On offense Austin is the anti-AV with three point range. This would allow Tristan to be able to take his man off the drive without the other big cutting the basket, drawing help defense. Outside of his shot he is a very athletic 7-footer and by all accounts a good shot blocker. I think TT and Austin's styles would compliment one another.
  
  I do think Speights does a lot of similar things, but with Austin we can continue drafting and developing our core as opposed to spending in free agency.
• SportsAndLady

  

  mucalum49;1384957 wrote:Which is why I am pulling for the Cavs to take a look at Isaiah Austin in the draft (maybe with the hopefully Lakers pick?). On offense Austin is the anti-AV with three point range. This would allow Tristan to be able to take his man off the drive without the other big cutting the basket, drawing help defense. Outside of his shot he is a very athletic 7-footer and by all accounts a good shot blocker. I think TT and Austin's styles would compliment one another.
  
  I do think Speights does a lot of similar things, but with Austin we can continue drafting and developing our core as opposed to spending in free agency.

  I like Austin too...just don't flick his legs, or they will snap in half.
• mucalum49

  

  SportsAndLady;1385004 wrote:I like Austin too...just don't flick his legs, or they will snap in half.

  I don't think he looks much smaller than Anthony Davis did last year at UK. Hopefully Austin has a frame to be able to add 10-15 pounds without losing much athleticism.
• SportsAndLady

  

  mucalum49;1385018 wrote:I don't think he looks much smaller than Anthony Davis did last year at UK. Hopefully Austin has a frame to be able to add 10-15 pounds without losing much athleticism.

  
  I wasn't being 100% serious lol I just always comment on how fucking skinny his legs are for being 7 feet.
• Fly4Fun

  

  
  
  Kind of looks like a baby giraffe trying to learn how to walk.