Cleveland Cavaliers 11-12 season thread
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Commander of Awesome
http://heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com/Crimson streak;1217404 wrote:I'm completely ok with this. We don't need another Larry Hughes contract. No reason to over pay right now.
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Commander of Awesome
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Wooball
6'6" SG/SFChris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard
Cleveland, New York have shown interest in Raptors' restricted free agent Sonny Weems, sources say.
athletic w/ long arms
Averaged 15+ ppg in Europe this year, Raptors gave him a qualifying offer this year. He averaged 9.2ppg/2.6rpg in 23 minutes in 2010/2011 in Toronto. Similar on the offensive end to Gee, but not as dedicated on the defensive end. Wouldn't mind pairing him up with Alonzo at SF for this year. -
Mulva
Mark me down as an enormous no on Sonny Weems.
Cavs apparently have some interest in Brandon Roy, but I can't really see him ending up here. -
GOONx19
Retired Brandon Roy? -
hoops23
Yeah, he's trying to make a comeback. He had that German knee surgery or whatever.GOONx19;1218257 wrote:Retired Brandon Roy? -
GOONx19
Hmm. I don't know if I'd wanna take a chance on that or not. If he played at his old all-star form, that'd be awesome.
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hoops23
I'm guessing he won't be offered much and the contract probably wouldn't be guaranteed...GOONx19;1218265 wrote:Hmm. I don't know if I'd wanna take a chance on that or not. If he played at his old all-star form, that'd be awesome.
However, if he comes back, I'm guessing he'd look to join a title contender... Unless he just wants the money? -
Mulva
He already met with Golden State and the Wolves have been thrown out there too. The Bulls also, but it's not all of the usual suspects being thrown around.hoops23;1218266 wrote:I'm guessing he won't be offered much and the contract probably wouldn't be guaranteed...
However, if he comes back, I'm guessing he'd look to join a title contender... Unless he just wants the money? -
hoops23
Boobs
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gport_tennishoops23;1218640 wrote:Boobs
Speaking of...any news with Boobie Gibson? He is a free agent right? -
Wooball
Nope, still with the Cavs. Although his contract is only partially guaranteed, but can't see a reason where the Cavs would cut him loose.gport_tennis;1219230 wrote:Speaking of...any news with Boobie Gibson? He is a free agent right? -
hoops23
Boobie, Harangody, Erden, and somebody else have very favorable contracts that could be used as "trade fillers" to make cap space work.Wooball;1219232 wrote:Nope, still with the Cavs. Although his contract is only partially guaranteed, but can't see a reason where the Cavs would cut him loose. -
BR1986FB
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Mulva
I hate Derek Fisher so much. And it has nothing to do with basketball ability.
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KR1245
Ilyasova is visiting the Cavs next week -
hoops23
My post that simply says "boobs" was about Ilyasova originally.KR1245;1220082 wrote:Ilyasova is visiting the Cavs next week
I basically said I would love the signing. Stretch 4 who is a tenacious rebounder. His per 36 is outrageously good and in games where he averaged 30 MPG, he averaged 19/10. I'd like this signing better than Batum. -
BR1986FB
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Mulva
Plain Dealer also mentioned Royal Ivey as a possibility. Exciting prospects.
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Crimson streak
A lot of these are just depth fillers. No reason to over pay for some of these players and screw your cap up for the next 4-5 years -
Mulva
We basically have a team full of depth fillers. I don't really get signing more of them. Outside of a backup PG, which we obviously need.Crimson streak;1220438 wrote:A lot of these are just depth fillers. No reason to over pay for some of these players and screw your cap up for the next 4-5 years -
KR1245
Remember Larry Hughes? Let's not do that again.
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Up to this point it's hard to argue that the Cavaliers haven't been making all of the right moves so far in free agency. And by all of the right moves, I mean none of the moves.
The Cavs entered this free agency period with a boatload of cap space. They also had three restricted free agents. Since July 1st, when the period officially began, the Cavs have simply extended qualifying offers to their restricted free agents and signed their drafted rookies. Luke Harangody accepted the qualifying offer. Semih Erden bolted for a better deal in Turkey. We're yet to hear about Alonzo Gee, but we'll have to wait on that one -- even if there are some less than ideal reports out there. Dion Waiters and Tyler Zeller have signed their contracts and that's it. Nothing else so far.
Why am I so excited about the Cavs' lack of activity? Well, look around the rest of the NBA and it's pretty easy to see. Landry Fields got an offer sheet for 3 years/$20 million. Jeremy Lin got an offer for 3 years/$30 million based on starting 25 games last season before having major knee surgery. Brandon Bass signed for 3 years/$20 million and Jeff Green might get 4 years/$40 million.
Get it now? I can continue.
The Clippers are looking to sign Jamal Crawford for 3 years/$15 million. Goran Dragic got 4 years/$34 million. Brandon Roy got 2 years/$10 million after missing last season due to retirement and having no meniscus in his knee.
Meanwhile, the Cavaliers are learning from mistakes of previous regimes and are sitting tight. They believe in their young players and are focused on making very minor moves to fill out the roster, like signing undrafted free agent, Kevin Jones. Jones was projected to go in the mid to early second round by many experts and scouts. There's no need to jump the gun and spend money just because we have it available. There is no urgency to get to the salary floor as Baron Davis' amnestied contract counts towards that figure. I refresh my Twitter feed in the afternoon and see mediocre NBA players getting enormous contracts from teams. Meanwhile, do a quick search for "Cavaliers" and you get next to nothing. We don't want to get into year 3 or 4 of this rebuild and say "crap, we can't do anything because we're paying a 32 year old Gerald Wallace $10 million!" We want to maintain flexibility and make the right moves at the right time.
Unlike the last time the Cavaliers were building their way out of the basement, we're not throwing wads of cash at Larry Hughes and Donyell Marshall. For now, the Cavs will make a few adjustments here and there. Add a couple of veterans, fill out the roster, and hold onto that cap space. With the way these other teams are spending, soon Cleveland may be the only team left with cap room. Then they can identify the right target and make their move. Until then, every time I see a free agent get overpaid by another team -- that's a win in my book. -
Crimson streak
Because we have young talent in Irving waiters Thompson and zeller. Why sign someone to a bad contract when you want these 4 playing the majority of the minutes. They need to grow together for us to be a contender again and by signing someone to take there minutes would stunt there growth.
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Crimson streak
KR1245;1220447 wrote:Remember Larry Hughes? Let's not do that again.
Browse more photos »
Up to this point it's hard to argue that the Cavaliers haven't been making all of the right moves so far in free agency. And by all of the right moves, I mean none of the moves.
The Cavs entered this free agency period with a boatload of cap space. They also had three restricted free agents. Since July 1st, when the period officially began, the Cavs have simply extended qualifying offers to their restricted free agents and signed their drafted rookies. Luke Harangody accepted the qualifying offer. Semih Erden bolted for a better deal in Turkey. We're yet to hear about Alonzo Gee, but we'll have to wait on that one -- even if there are some less than ideal reports out there. Dion Waiters and Tyler Zeller have signed their contracts and that's it. Nothing else so far.
Why am I so excited about the Cavs' lack of activity? Well, look around the rest of the NBA and it's pretty easy to see. Landry Fields got an offer sheet for 3 years/$20 million. Jeremy Lin got an offer for 3 years/$30 million based on starting 25 games last season before having major knee surgery. Brandon Bass signed for 3 years/$20 million and Jeff Green might get 4 years/$40 million.
Get it now? I can continue.
The Clippers are looking to sign Jamal Crawford for 3 years/$15 million. Goran Dragic got 4 years/$34 million. Brandon Roy got 2 years/$10 million after missing last season due to retirement and having no meniscus in his knee.
Meanwhile, the Cavaliers are learning from mistakes of previous regimes and are sitting tight. They believe in their young players and are focused on making very minor moves to fill out the roster, like signing undrafted free agent, Kevin Jones. Jones was projected to go in the mid to early second round by many experts and scouts. There's no need to jump the gun and spend money just because we have it available. There is no urgency to get to the salary floor as Baron Davis' amnestied contract counts towards that figure. I refresh my Twitter feed in the afternoon and see mediocre NBA players getting enormous contracts from teams. Meanwhile, do a quick search for "Cavaliers" and you get next to nothing. We don't want to get into year 3 or 4 of this rebuild and say "crap, we can't do anything because we're paying a 32 year old Gerald Wallace $10 million!" We want to maintain flexibility and make the right moves at the right time.
Unlike the last time the Cavaliers were building their way out of the basement, we're not throwing wads of cash at Larry Hughes and Donyell Marshall. For now, the Cavs will make a few adjustments here and there. Add a couple of veterans, fill out the roster, and hold onto that cap space. With the way these other teams are spending, soon Cleveland may be the only team left with cap room. Then they can identify the right target and make their move. Until then, every time I see a free agent get overpaid by another team -- that's a win in my book.
Great read! Completely agree -
Crimson streak
I think Kevin jones was a great pick up. He will be a guy that will come off the bench a be a solid role player for years