2011 Cleveland Cavalier Offseason/Draft

• wildcats20

  

  sleeper;812055 wrote:You made the claim, and you are the weak minded one calling this draft weak.

  
  Link?
• sleeper

  

  Hb31187;812057 wrote:Haha you claim my opinion doesnt matter bc i cant think for myself. Yet ask me for links to other peoples thoughts to prove my opinion?

  
  Because your opinion of a weak draft is unsubstantiated by anything other than media heads trying to sell magazines. You can't think for yourself, and you honestly probably don't deserve a job with a salary.
• wildcats20

  

  SportsAndLady;812059 wrote:If He doesn't get the fluke toe injury, he is the sure fire #1 pick perhaps even moreso than rose and wall were

  
  Not to mention a National Champion.
  
  NO ONE was beating the Dookies with him at 100% and it KILLS me to say that.
• sleeper

  

  wildcats20;812061 wrote:Link?

  
  Do you think a draft can be called weak before any player has stepped on the floor?
• wildcats20

  

  Yes.
  
  But that is not what you just claimed I said.
• sleeper

  

  wildcats20;812066 wrote:Yes.
  
  But that is not what you just claimed I said.

  
  How can you do this? Forget everything else. How can you judge a draft is weak before any player has stepped onto the floor?
  
  I'm awaiting your response.
• wes_mantooth

  

  sleeper;812064 wrote:Do you think a draft can be called weak before any player has stepped on the floor?

  
  I agree that it isn't fair, but where would the fun be if we waited 3 yrs to judge them. Hell, in 3 years kahn may be considered a genius because of the mismatches his 5 pg lineups cause against everyone.
• wildcats20

  

  sleeper;812069 wrote:How can you do this? Forget everything else. How can you judge a draft is weak before any player has stepped onto the floor?
  
  I'm awaiting your response.

  
  It's called an opinion. Just like you stating 5 other guys as "better" centers than Bogut.
  
  
  You're a college grad, you should know that an opinion can not be right or wrong.
• 2kool4skool

  

  sleeper;812060 wrote:Just admit you can't judge a class until at least 5 years,

  I don't know about "at least" 5, but probably at least 3
  

  and that anyone calling the draft weak is weak minded and can't think for themselves.

  No one is implying they are 100% sure of what the results will be. Just giving their projections of what they believe will happen, which is what occurs every year, for every draft, in every sport. It just so happens, there's a pretty wide consensus on people predicting this will be a weak draft.
  
  You can always bookmark the thread and bump it in 5 years, when it will be a more enjoyable experience for you to discuss.
• sleeper

  

  wes_mantooth;812071 wrote:I agree that it isn't fair, but where would the fun be if we waited 3 yrs to judge them. Hell, in 3 years kahn may be considered a genius because of the mismatches his 5 pg lineups cause against everyone.

  
  Well finally at least one person admits that you can't judge a draft until years after. Heck, Irving and Thompson could be all stars in the next 5 years, and the haters will still hate.
• sleeper

  

  2kool4skool;812078 wrote:I don't know about "at least" 5, but probably at least 3
  
  
  
  No one is implying they are 100% sure of what the results will be. Just giving their projections of what they believe will happen, which is what occurs every year, for every draft, in every sport. It just so happens, there's a pretty wide consensus on people predicting this will be a weak draft.
  
  You can always bookmark the thread and bump it in 5 years, when it will be a more enjoyable experience for you to discuss.

  
  Only predicting it to be a weak draft to sell magazines, and the weak minded eat it all up. Irving and Williams are going to be all stars, and I think at least 5-6 of the top 14 will be all stars at one point in their career as well. This is a great draft, and you can bookmark this thread so I can prove you all need to stop having an opinion on basketball because you don't know what you are talking about.
• 2kool4skool

  

  sleeper;812084 wrote:Only predicting it to be a weak draft to sell magazines

  
  As a graduate of the best business school in the country, I'm sure you realize predicting the draft to be weak is a poor way to sell magazines.
• sleeper

  

  2kool4skool;812088 wrote:As a graduate of the best business school in the country, I'm sure you realize predicting the draft to be weak is a poor way to sell magazines.

  
  Only an idiot actually believes this. Weak drafts propagated by the media are a great way to sell a story.
• jordo212000

  

  Can we ban sleeper for the rest of the evening? He is making my head feel like it is going to explode
• sleeper

  

  Anyway let's get back to this extremely deep draft with loads of future NBA talent.
  
  I hope the Cavs grab JaJuan Johnson. I mean when a guy like JaJuan Johnson isn't even going to go in the 1st round, you know this draft is insanely deep. Probably the best draft since 2003.
• sleeper

  

  Also, where is Gilbert? We need to make some moves immediately.
• jordo212000

  

  Also, where is Gilbert? We need to make some moves immediately.

  Amen. Buy a first rounder. Pair it with Thompson and see what you can get. Heck maybe throw in Varejao for good measure
• 2kool4skool

  

  sleeper;812090 wrote:Only an idiot actually believes this. Weak drafts propagated by the media are a great way to sell a story.

  
  
• Pick6

  

  Damn wanted brooks. Will be satisfied with hamilton or johnson
• Pick6

  

  Well shit. All 3 of them are gone now
• Midstate01

  

  I have no idea who we take now...
• sleeper

  

  Well shit. Trade the barn for Brooks or Johnson. I don't like any of the players left.
• wildcats20

  

  Maybe Jimmy Butler.....
  
  
  If he is there.
• SportsAndLady

  

  How many picks til were up
• dave

  Can't stand him, but wouldn't mind Singler.