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  • grodt
    darbypitcher22;680042 wrote:^^^^

    of course he will have pitched great. But I also think that because of him being bumped down he'll get an additional 3-4 wins in which he could give up 4 or 5 runs and still get a W because his offense pounds it out against someone's 3 4 or 5

    Agree to disagree I guess. I don't see him being a #4 giving him 4 wins that would have been losses or NDs. I'd be curious to know what percentage of games a starter actually starts against the other teams pitcher in that same spot of the rotation.
  • jordo212000
    karen lotz;680057 wrote:You're joking right?

    No... I am not? He played in 95 games last year, was beat up, and struggled at the plate. Heck, Chipper himself casually mentioned retirement during last season. He's a shell of his former self and is quite injury prone. My thinking is that if he gets another injury that sets him back for an extended period of time, he will simply walk away.
  • karen lotz
    He struggled out of the gate. After that comment he made about putting off retirement talk until after the season, he was on a 2 month streak where he was hitting about .320. And you did know that he tore his ACL, right? If he didn't walk away from an ACL tear I doubt any other injury is going to make him walk away this year as long as he is productive. Fredi has said he will be batting 3rd on opening day so someone seems to think he still has something in the tank.
  • darbypitcher22
    grodt;680058 wrote:Agree to disagree I guess. I don't see him being a #4 giving him 4 wins that would have been losses or NDs. I'd be curious to know what percentage of games a starter actually starts against the other teams pitcher in that same spot of the rotation.

    Its probably not a great percentage, but still, being a #1 or #2 starter in most rotations is going to give you a decided advantage most times with the offense that they have going against most teams in the N.L's 3's and 4's
  • jordo212000
    He struggled out of the gate. After that comment he made about putting off retirement talk until after the season, he was on a 2 month streak where he was hitting about .320. And you did know that he tore his ACL, right? If he didn't walk away from an ACL tear I doubt any other injury is going to make him walk away this year as long as he is productive. Fredi has said he will be batting 3rd on opening day so someone seems to think he still has something in the tank.

    He's another year older. I don't care what kind of 2 month streak he had. He still around .260 that tells you how bad he was for the other part of the year. If he is good, then great! I'm not a Chipper hater or anything. Just giving my opinion.

    He's old and his skills are diminished. If Fredi thinks hitting Chipper 3rd is best for his team, cool. He needs to talk with the graveyard of Reds managers first though. He will need to ask them how it worked out when they placed a decaying Griffey in the 3 hole because of who he "was"
  • justincredible
    Tiger2003;680033 wrote:What's everyones prediction this year.
    NL division winners and wild card team stay the same. Not sure on the AL yet.
    Commander of Awesome;680054 wrote:Tell that to Justin and LJ.

    Why should he tell us that? I don't get it. Must be the Marietta education.
  • karen lotz
    Breaking news announced regarding Pujols during the Ohio State basketball game. No link on espn.com yet. Anyone have an idea?
  • ernest_t_bass
    What's the news on Pujols?
  • justincredible
    Pujols turned down 8 years, $200 million
  • jordo212000
    Breaking news announced regarding Pujols during the Ohio State basketball game. No link on espn.com yet. Anyone have an idea?


    Cardinals made him an offer. I think it was 8 yrs 200 mill. I could be wrong about the terms though. Saw it on the bottom line earlier
  • karen lotz
    Eh, nothing too exciting. No new offer by the Cardinals.
  • karen lotz
    jordo212000;680197 wrote:Cardinals made him an offer. I think it was 8 yrs 200 mill. I could be wrong about the terms though. Saw it on the bottom line earlier

    The breaking news is that that offer actually wasn't made.
  • justincredible
    Rumors that they've agreed to 9 years, $235 million
  • karen lotz
    justincredible;680202 wrote:Rumors that they've agreed to 9 years, $235 million


    huh?
  • Laley23
    NL:
    Phils
    BrewCrew
    G-Men
    Padres

    AL:
    Boston
    Tigers
    Rangers
    Rays
  • Tiger2003
    justincredible;680202 wrote:Rumors that they've agreed to 9 years, $235 million

    Bad Rumor.
  • ernest_t_bass
    justincredible;680196 wrote:Pujols turned down 8 years, $200 million

    I turned down that same offer from Justin, to be a mod on this site.
  • justincredible
    wut?
  • justincredible
    Tiger2003;680206 wrote:Bad Rumor.

    Hope so. I don't want them to agree on a contract.
  • justincredible
    ernest_t_bass;680209 wrote:I turned down that same offer from Justin, to be a mod on this site.

    I made an offer of 8 days, $2.
  • darbypitcher22
    According to Jayson Stark on ESPN no deal was offered today and there's nothing "imminent" before tomorrow's noon deadline. Also reports of the players union turning up the heat on Pujols to milk the Cards are also false.

    At this point Stark believes Pujols goes Free Agent in November
  • Laley23
    justincredible;680202 wrote:Rumors that they've agreed to 9 years, $235 million

    Where did you see that?
  • ernest_t_bass
    justincredible;680214 wrote:I made an offer of 8 days, $2.

    Oh, that's it. I often see the word "days" as "years," and often mistake a period for 5 zeros.
  • jordo212000
    American League

    AL East
    Boston

    AL Central
    Chicago White Sox

    AL West
    LA Angels

    Wild Card
    Tampa Bay

    National League

    NL East
    Philadelphia

    NL Central
    Cincinnati

    NL West
    Colorado

    NL Wild Card
    Milwaukee
  • Sonofanump
    darbypitcher22;680042 wrote:^^^^

    of course he will have pitched great. But I also think that because of him being bumped down he'll get an additional 3-4 wins in which he could give up 4 or 5 runs and still get a W because his offense pounds it out against someone's 3 4 or 5

    I agree with this. His run support will be slightly higher giving him a few more Ws.