Cleveland Browns 2011 Super Awesome In-Season Thread

• zach24oz

  It is going to be weird having the Draft and once that is all over with there's no camps or anything to go to because of the lockout and everything...
• killer_ewok

  

  Just got an alert from my ESPN app that the Falcons would probably contact the Browns about the 6th pick if AJ Green is still available.
• like_that

  

  killer_ewok;722869 wrote:Just got an alert from my ESPN app that the Falcons would probably contact the Browns about the 6th pick if AJ Green is still available.

  
  Just checked ESPN insider. Apparently the Falcons would have to part ways with their 1st and 2nd picks this year along with their #1 the following year. I think i would take this.
• derek bomar

  

  like_that;722871 wrote:Just checked ESPN insider. Apparently the Falcons would have to part ways with their 1st and 2nd picks this year along with their #1 the following year. I think i would take this.

  
  absolutely
• Commander of Awesome

  

  I would take it as well. With the falcons #27 pick I would take a muhammad wilkerson or a corey liuget or a stephen pea. All of which would be great picks IMO.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Why do the Falcons want Green so bad? I didn't think they needed receivers, I always thought they had a pretty good group of receivers?
• Commander of Awesome

  

  They dont. Harry Douglas was solid but then suffered a fairly significant injury. They were hoping for big things from him. Jenkins can't get seperation in the pros. Tony Gonzales is declinging player.
• Jester

  

  Atlanta's 3rd leading receiver was their backup RB. As far as WR's go, outside of Roddy White, they don't have much. If AJ Green can be as good as advertised, a combo of him and White would be NASTY.
• Laley23

  

  Matt Ryan would be like the 3rd best fantasy QB with Green and White lol. But yeah, outside White, you ahve a RB and TE making all the catches. Their WRs pretty much suck.
• Writerbuckeye

  

  Saw a piece on ESPN (had to wash after) that said Cam's tour will include a visit to the Browns. I hope this is due diligence and a smoke screen.
• OQB

  

  I would take that trade all day long!!! I would actually prefer this to happen over picking anyone at the #6 spot.
• Fabio

  Yea with that trade we could potentially solidify our dline. We could get a greatly underrated DE prospect in justin houston out of Georgia, corey luiget out of Ill or Wilkerson out of temple (who's being compared to vince wilfork) while solid DT prospects such as stephen paea (sp?), drake nevis, and marvin austin being available with our 2 2nd round picks. I think we need to go DE first since that's our biggest need on the dline with all of our DEs being 3-4 DEs (glorified DT) or 3-4 OLB (tweeners).
• OQB

  

  Browns receive a compensatory pick in 7th round...not like we will get a franchise player lol but could add depth at a position.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  9. Ditto with Da'Quan Bowers. Friday is a very big day for the Clemson defensive end, who, like Fairley, is trying to ride one college season to the top 10 of the draft. Friday at 9 a.m., Bowers works out for teams at Clemson, and his agent, Joe Flanagan, says Bowers has eight team visits scheduled after that. He will need to look healthy at the workout and perform convincingly in any further physicals, because, as one scout told me this weekend, "He's failed at least two team physicals that I know of'' on the heels of meniscus surgery after the season. Three months ago, Bowers was a candidate to be the first pick in the draft. Now, like Fairley, he has a chance to tumble a bit.
  
  
  
  Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/03/27/mmqb/index.html#ixzz1HtwGEpdk
  
  If this is true about Bowers, I would think we'd have to take him off of our board. Bit too risky IMO to use a #6 pick on.
• royal_k

  

  We can't take a chance on a player that is not healthy, no matter how high his ceiling is. Pass on Bowers if this is true.
• like_that

  

  Just take the damn trade with the falcons if that trade is serious.
• Sonofanump

  like_that;727145 wrote:Just take the damn trade with the falcons if that trade is serious.

  
  I know you know this: It would have to be a draft day trade b/c the Falcons will need to make sure the Bengals pass on Green.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Green doesnt have enough character questions, they wont draft him.
• OQB

  

  Cleveland.com
  Terry Pluto
  
  ABOUT THE BROWNS . . .
  
  1. Trying to figure out what the Browns might do on draft day, let's look back to 2010, when they had the seventh overall pick. If former coach Eric Mangini had been running the draft last year, the Browns probably would have traded down. Like Bill Belichick and others from that NFL school of thought, they prefer to stay out of the top 10 -- where rookies receive salaries that chew up the salary cap and sometimes cause problems with veterans in the locker room. They also want a lot of picks low in the first round, and in other rounds.
  
  2. The Browns didn't trade the pick. General Manager Tom Heckert was confident he'd find the right guy worth the money at No. 7.
  
  3. A few months before the draft, many "experts" assumed the Browns would take defensive back Joe Haden. But Haden ran a relatively slow 40-yard dash at the NFL Scouting Combine. That scared away some teams. It was rumored the Browns had backed off him, but Heckert never wavered. He thought Haden was a tremendous cover cornerback at Florida. He trusted his own eyes, the reports of the scouts, and production on the field over pure potential and what happens at the combine.
  
  4. The drafting of Haden reveals that Heckert will probably stay at No. 6 this year. If he does trade down, it likely would be only a few picks. Also, there will be a rookie salary cap (finally!) in the new labor agreement -- another reason to keep high draft picks.
  
  5. So this would indicate Heckert will probably want a player from a major program who has been producing -- probably not a one-year wonder. Yes, that does bring us back to Georgia's A.J. Green at wide receiver, although Heckert has been mentioning Alabama wideout Julio Jones. I do know this: If Heckert believes Jones is a better player than Green, he will skip the Green hype and take Jones.
  
  6. No doubt, there will be lots of people in the Browns' draft room who will want a receiver. President Mike Holmgren loves offense. New coach Pat Shurmur told The Plain Dealer's Tony Grossi this about Green, "It's intoxicating to go after a playmaker."
  
  7. But I go back to the basics, the basics being the Browns are switching to the 4-3 defense with just one starting lineman (Ahtyba Rubin) and two healthy starting linebackers (Chris Gocong and Scott Fujita). I go back to the 2010 draft, where Heckert's first two picks were defensive backs -- Haden and safety T.J. Ward. Then I think about how this draft is supposed to be rich with defensive linemen.
  
  8. And that brings me to Clemson defensive end Da'Quan Bowers. Many experts had him in the top three, certainly no lower than No. 5 right after the season. Then it was revealed that Bowers had a torn meniscus in his knee. His pro day is Friday, and his agent said Bowers will show everyone he's healthy.
  
  9. Let's think about Haden, a very good college player whose stock dropped after the season -- when scouts began looking at things other than game tapes. But nothing had changed about Haden being a big-time defensive back. And nothing has changed about Bowers, assuming he shows this week that he is fully recovered from his knee surgery.
  
  10. Bowers had a huge junior year at Clemson, leading the nation with 15.5 sacks. I like that he had sacks in 10 of his 13 games, meaning he was a factor each week. He also had 26 tackles for loss. At 6-4, 277 pounds, he is the ideal pass rusher for a 4-3 defense -- and guess which team is switching to a 4-3 defense and has no defensive ends on the roster who can rush the passer?
  
  11. Does this mean the Browns will take Bowers? Of course not. But for all the talk about receivers, don't be surprised if Heckert takes what he considers a sure thing in Bowers and begins to build the defense.
  
  12. Not much is said about the offensive line, but right tackle must be addressed at some point soon. The team can't keep going with veterans such as John St. Clair, Floyd Womack and Tony Pashos. While they talk about Pashos for 2012, it's hard to count on him. A middle-round pick on a right tackle might be wise.
  
  
  http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/index.ssf/2011/03/terrys_talkin_cleveland_browns.html
  link to complete article (includes cavs and indians)
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Nothing we dont already know, lot of specualtion on Pluto's part. Though not as if there is much to write about the Browns currently.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  On NFL Today Podcast they break down the Browns and talk to fans on how to fix the team. Its some indepth discussion on the browns which is always nice.
  
  http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/podcenter/?id=6276724&autoplay=1
  
  14 min mark begins the browns discussion.
• OQB

  

  Nothing we dont already know, lot of specualtion on everyone's part. Though not as if there is much to write/talk about the Browns currently.
  
  
• DeyDurkie5

  

  Hopefully the top qbs are left in this draft, so we take a trade down scenario and pick up more valuable picks. I really hope we don't take bowers, anyone but him. I'm not high on drafting people with knee injuries(hardesty is a great example).
• Commander of Awesome

  

  ESPNs Mel Kiper has the Browns taking Alabama WR Julio Jones in his latest mock draft update.
• OQB

  

  Is that at the 6th spot?