Lebron: The Decision....Official Thread. Post All Lebron Talk here.

• GoPens

  

  thedynasty1998;413849 wrote:He's not everybody else. Lebron didn't make this process as big as it is. It's the media that did. Whether you like it or not, Lebron is bigger than anyone else and this is the best route for it.

  Yes, he is God. I see you worship at the Church of Lebron. These apologists are hiliarious.
• thedynasty1998

  

  Non;413942 wrote:I know he'd be making more but I don't think that would be the reason he would stay in Cleveland, ultimately.

  
  When people state this as an argument that he will stay in Cleveland, they lose all credibility.
• thedynasty1998

  

  GoPens;413946 wrote:Yes, he is God. I see you worship at the Church of Lebron. These apologists are hiliarious.

  
  I don't worship Lebron by any means, but to think he is on the same level as everyone else is dumb. Go tell that to Nike then.
• like_that

  

  Skyhook79;413925 wrote:Not even close to the same thing. Kobe wasn't a FA and everyone knew he was just pushing the Lakers to improve the Roster which worked in case you haven't noticed.
  
  http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2886927

  
  http://www.thekobevideo.blogspot.com/
  
  Seems more like a bitch move to me....
• Fab4Runner

  

  I am not a LeBron worshiper by any means. I have stated numerous times that i am a Cavs fan. If he leaves I will not cheer for him. But I am also not an LBJ hater. Some people look for any reason to trash him, which is also hilarious. To me, he has been the furthest thing from a drama queen this entire FA process. It's the media that has been insane.
• SportsAndLady

  

  jordo212000;413943 wrote:You are naive if you think Lebron staging an hour long special is about the charity

  
  He's donating the money to charity..that's why he's having the show. Why is this so hard to understand? It's because you just can't stand Lebron and bash him every chance you get. He could cure cancer and you'd argue it was just so he would be in the spotlight. You're a fucking joke. He's using this process to donate to charity, and you're saying he's a POS who should just announce his decision and then donate his contract money to charity...listen to how retarded you sound. You are a disgrace.
• BR1986FB

  thedynasty1998;413945 wrote:Which way is it? You can't have it both ways. And to think I used to actually respect your opinion...
  
  And to say you will hold a grudge because he didn't deliver on his promise to win a championship is childish. People are unfucking believable sometimes.

  
  The second quote of mine that you posted was MY opinion. The FIRST comment of mine that you quoted was my PERCEPTION of what I thought Non was trying to say so try fucking reading, dumbass. I don't think Non was saying Lebron would be a "loser/SOB" in Non's eyes but in the overall perception of him. My second comment was confirming that what he said would be true...Lebron WOULD be considered an SOB for leaving with unfinished business.
  
  You say it's "childish" if people hold it against him for not delivering on a promise? Problem solved! Dont' throw out GUARANTEES if you don't want the backlash when you QUIT on your city.
• Non

  

  thedynasty1998;413947 wrote:When people state this as an argument that he will stay in Cleveland, they lose all credibility.

  
  He knew all along he'd be making more money in Cleveland. That's not going to be the tipping point.
  
  As BR said, it will be the unfinished business that he can't ignore.
  
  Miami is a better situation overall now.
• BR1986FB

  Non;413967 wrote:He knew all along he'd be making more money in Cleveland. That's not going to be the tipping point.
  
  As BR said, it will be the unfinished business that he can't ignore.
  
  Miami is a better situation overall now.

  
  Without a doubt there are better situations out there. That can't be disputed but if he leaves he WILL look like a quitter and a weasel.
• enigmaax

  BR1986FB;413881 wrote: The way that Lebron tanked that game 5, if he leaves, he WILL be considered a "quitter", "loser", etc among many both locally AND nationally. He'll ALWAYS be "the guy not GOOD enough to get it done in Cleveland....the guy who took the easy way out."

  
  I still maintain that only Clevelanders will see him this way if he wins title(s) elsewhere. Nationally, you'll have a few people who already hate him whose opinion will never change no matter what he does (if he stays and wins in Cleveland, there will be some other stupid excuse from those types - oh he couldn't win until he got so-and-so....the same way some retards spout that shit now about Kobe Bryant).
  
  How often do you hear, "Oscar Robertson = 0 titles without Kareem" or "Oscar Robertson couldn't win in Cincinnati". Nobody cares about crap like that once a guy's career is over and the legacy is established. Plain and simple, if Lebron wins titles he's going to be talked about as one of the greatest, if not the greatest of all-time. If he doesn't win any titles, he'll always be seen as a slight notch below the top handful of guys. That'll be the case whether he wins them in Cleveland or anywhere else.
• jordo212000

  

  SportsAndLady;413961 wrote:He's donating the money to charity..that's why he's having the show. Why is this so hard to understand? It's because you just can't stand Lebron and bash him every chance you get. He could cure cancer and you'd argue it was just so he would be in the spotlight. You're a fucking joke. He's using this process to donate to charity, and you're saying he's a POS who should just announce his decision and then donate his contract money to charity...listen to how retarded you sound. You are a disgrace.

  
  Meltdown alert.
  
  I don't hate Lebron at all. In fact I usually root for the Cavaliers to succeed. And... I don't bash him every chance I get. The people who have been discussing the free agent hype on here for the past month or two can attest to that.
  
  I choose to be a realist. I'm not so biased that I can't see the big picture. The charity is great. I applaud him for that, but that's not what this hour long special is about. Lebron didn't say "hmm how can I suck some money from ESPN to give to a charity." This was about Lebron continuing to try and become a global icon and trying to grab all the attention he can. If this were about giving money to a charity, he'd just take out his checkbook and do it quietly at home tomorrow night
• sportswizuhrd

  Skyhook79;413937 wrote:link?

  
  With the 16th pick, the Hornets already had their eye on a guard – Santa Clara's Steve Nash, who had worked out with the team shortly before the draft. The Hornets had invited Bryant for a workout, but he cancelled the visit. The team had scouted Bryant twice but wanted a private workout to get a better feel for his potential.
  
  "He wouldn't work out with us and that bothered us," Bass said. "We couldn't meet him. His agent was trying to aim him to the Lakers and they threatened us."
  
  The Hornets got the message that if they drafted Bryant, he wouldn't play in Charlotte.
  
  They weren't the only team to be warned off taking Bryant for their own.
  
  The New Jersey Nets, coached by John Calipari, considered Bryant with the eighth pick but chose Villanova's Kerry Kittles after hearing a similar message.
  
  [O]ne day later, with Divac still stalling the trade, Tellem was more direct when asked if Bryant might wind up playing for the Hornets.
  
  "That is an impossibility. There are no ifs. It would not happen. He is going to be a Laker and that's the only team he's playing for," Tellem said.
  
  There was talk that if the trade didn't go through, Bryant might play professionally in Italy for one season, then attempt to re-enter the draft.
  
  It would take more than a week but Divac – after threatening to return to Yugoslavia – finally agreed to accept the trade to Charlotte, cementing Bryant's future in Los Angeles.
  

  http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/03/05/1289903/passing-on-kobe.html
• thedynasty1998

  

  BR1986FB;413881 wrote:Hey assclown, try READING for ONCE before you jump down someones throat. Non wasn't saying Lebron was an "SOB" or a "loser" for leaving. Most INTELLIGENT people would have taken his comments to mean that's how he will be perceived.

  BR1986FB;413966 wrote:The FIRST comment of mine that you quoted was my PERCEPTION of what I thought Non was trying to say so try fucking reading, dumbass.

  
  So, you tell me to TRY READING for ONCE, yet you are talking about the perception of what you THOUGHT he was trying to say.
  
  Thanks for calling me a dumbass for not having your same perception, you clown.
• gibby08

  

  I honestly think he'll go to Miami or New York now
• se-alum

  

  IMO, if LeBron wants to leave a Jordan like legacy in this league, it won't happen by joining Wade & Bosh. He needs to do it the way Jordan did it. One other star player, and a bunch of role guys that he makes better than they actually are. I'm not sure he wants to hear, "he needed Wade & Bosh, he couldn't do it by himself", the rest of his life. Just my opinion that LeBron stays in Cleveland to chase the legacy of being the greatest player ever, he can't do that in Miami.
• IggyPride00

  

  I wonder if Bosh basically snubbing his nose at Lebron to goto Miami is making him have any second thoughts about staying in Cleveland.
  
  Bosh may get the 6th year in Miami when all is said and done, but as of now he has essentially committed there regardless. He could have had it for sure in Cleveland, and Toronto was ready to trade him away supposedly based on what has been reported.
  
  If you're Lebron, don't you have to seriously question how realistic it is that you can ever get another star player to Cleveland? Bosh supposedly did want to play with Lebron, just not in Cleveland.
  
  That has got to hurt because having an owner willing to spend whatever doesn't mean a hill of beans if no one wants to play in Cleveland. It is now looking doubtful the roster will really be changed all that much with an impact guy, and I would think that has to at least put an inkling of doubt in his head at this point. I am sure when push came to shove he thought he could get Bosh to come and the fact he's not has to make him wonder if this is how it will always be just because it is Cleveland.
• gibby08

  

  ^^^
  
  I do see where you are coming from se
• jordo212000

  

  se-alum;413981 wrote:IMO, if LeBron wants to leave a Jordan like legacy in this league, it won't happen by joining Wade & Bosh. He needs to do it the way Jordan did it. One other star player, and a bunch of role guys that he makes better than they actually are. I'm not sure he wants to hear, "he needed Wade & Bosh, he couldn't do it by himself", the rest of his life. Just my opinion that LeBron stays in Cleveland to chase the legacy of being the greatest player ever, he can't do that in Miami.

  
  I loved Prokhorov tweaking him in that leaked statement. Thought it was genius. Prokhorov said he thought Bosh and Wade were going to Miami, and that Lebron could go there and win a couple of titles...but that would tarnish the Lebron brand. The dude is going to be a great owner. Pro sports need more owners like this
• lhslep134

  

  Skyhook79;413913 wrote:Really? Is that why Lebrons people went to ESPN and not the other way??? Nice try.

  
  Yes you fucking idiot. They went to ESPN because they knew ESPN would maximize the amount of money generated for Boys and Girls Club.
  
  God are you seriously that stupid?
• gibby08

  

  ESPN's Chris Broussard, who broke the Chris Bosh - Dwyane Wade-to-Miami story, called the Miami Heat the 'clear frontrunner' to land LeBron James.
  Broussard also said he might change his mind in an hour, and that he still didn't know if LeBron was going to Miami or not. Broussard has been as connected as anyone to what's going on in free agency, and while nothing is set in stone, this is just another piece of LeBron news that is going to make the city of Cleveland lose sleep on Wednesday night.
  
  Source:Rotoworld
• se-alum

  

  jordo212000;413985 wrote:I loved Prokhorov tweaking him in that leaked statement. Thought it was genius. Prokhorov said he thought Bosh and Wade were going to Miami, and that Lebron could go there and win a couple of titles...but that would tarnish the Lebron brand. The dude is going to be a great owner. Pro sports need more owners like this

  I never saw the statement, but obviously agree w/ Prokhorov.
• jordo212000

  

  se-alum;413989 wrote:I never saw the statement, but obviously agree w/ Prokhorov.

  
  http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5357254
• se-alum

  

  gibby08;413988 wrote:ESPN's Chris Broussard, who broke the Chris Bosh - Dwyane Wade-to-Miami story, called the Miami Heat the 'clear frontrunner' to land LeBron James.
  Broussard also said he might change his mind in an hour, and that he still didn't know if LeBron was going to Miami or not. Broussard has been as connected as anyone to what's going on in free agency, and while nothing is set in stone, this is just another piece of LeBron news that is going to make the city of Cleveland lose sleep on Wednesday night.
  
  Source:Rotoworld

  Kind of a cop-out statement by Broussard(who is one of the few "insiders" I actually pay attention to). Miami is a clear frontrunner, but he may change his mind? Covering all the basis there Chris.
• thedynasty1998

  

  IggyPride00;413982 wrote:I wonder if Bosh basically snubbing his nose at Lebron to goto Miami is making him have any second thoughts about staying in Cleveland.
  
  If you're Lebron, don't you have to seriously question how realistic it is that you can ever get another star player to Cleveland? Bosh supposedly did want to play with Lebron, just not in Cleveland.

  
  I don't think for one second Lebron didn't know what Bosh was going to do, so I don't think it's fair to say he snubbed Lebron. Lebron was full aware of Clevelands cap situation and knew that realistically Bosh would go elsewhere. Plus, from day one, it was pretty well known that Bosh and Wade are the tightest of the group.
  
  There is no doubt Lebron has to factor that into his decision. If he stays in Cleveland, it's unlikely that he'll be joined by a player of the caliber of a Stoudemire or Bosh. The pipe dream is Chris Paul, but I think he really enjoys New Orleans and stays there. Lebron knows more than anyone is giving him credit for. I would love for him to do a Q&A tomorrow, but I know that's probably unlikely.
• GoPens

  

  lhslep134;413987 wrote:Yes you fucking idiot. They went to ESPN because they knew ESPN would maximize the amount of money generated for Boys and Girls Club.
  
  God are you seriously that stupid?

  Honestly, do you think the only reason for this show is for the Boys and Girls Club? Tell me you're not that naive.