GoT returns Sunday

• SnotBubbles

  

  From what I've heard and figure, this season is the battle for the iron throne then next season is the battle with the white walkers.
  
  It's amazing how quickly this show progresses in comparison to The Walking Dead (which I gave up on after 3 episodes last season. They can get a lot of shit done in a 1 hour episode.
• gut

  SnotBubbles;1863881 wrote:From what I've heard and figure, this season is the battle for the iron throne then next season is the battle with the white walkers.

  That makes sense, because they need to unite everyone to take on the WW.
  
  I'm worried condensing so much is going to cause the quality to suffer. You basically built this all up over 60-70 hours, and now you're wrapping it up in about 1/4 of that.
  
  Or maybe the politics angle is going to be as simple as Jon saying "look, I don't want the throne....let's take care of the WW and who's ever left living can battle for the throne".
• Rotinaj

  

  I can only think of 1 way this show could end that I would hate. If they all come together to defeat the white walkers then at the end Cersei somehow kills off everyone to "win" the game of thrones.
• gut

  Rotinaj;1863924 wrote:I can only think of 1 way this show could end that I would hate. If they all come together to defeat the white walkers then at the end Cersei somehow kills off everyone to "win" the game of thrones.

  Well, she doesn't have many allies....and WOULD make a fairly attractive Ice Queen.
  
  But practically speaking, I don't see how they'll have enough soldiers to battle the WW unless they reach some sort of ceasefire. I'm not sure there needs to be a huge battle for the throne, at this point, after we've had basically 6-7 seasons of that. I predict whichever hero survives the WW war, it will be Jaimie that bends the knee and all the other kings follow suit.
• Automatik

  

  
• Heretic

  

  Automatik;1863541 wrote:Let's talk more about Nathalie Emmanuel. She might be a 10.

  
  Her nudity was a saving grace for a scene that, otherwise, would have been overly long because of how nothing happened other than tits.
  
  But it'd be pretty difficult to find a better saving grace!
• gut

  Heretic;1864017 wrote:Her nudity was a saving grace for a scene that, otherwise, would have been overly long because of how nothing happened other than tits.
  
  But it'd be pretty difficult to find a better saving grace!

  
  I looked away during the part of that scene where I FULLY expected HBO was going to show us a eunuch's genitals.
• Automatik

  

  Need a Jim Ross dub over that Euron entrance.
• gut

  Nothing?
  
  I thought it was a pretty damn good episode. So much happened, but none of it felt forced or rushed. And tip of the cap to Tryion for the best, and most on-the-nose, line in maybe the entire series.
  
  Although I was sort of waiting for Sam to tell Sir Jorah "and, by the way, when you see the dragon lady could you tell her to go melt the popsicles north of the wall? thanks, that would be great..."
• SportsAndLady

  

  gut;1864662 wrote:Nothing?
  
  I thought it was a pretty damn good episode. So much happened, but none of it felt forced or rushed. And tip of the cap to Tryion for the best, and most on-the-nose, line in maybe the entire series.
  
  Although I was sort of waiting for Sam to tell Sir Jorah "and, by the way, when you see the dragon lady could you tell her to go melt the popsicles north of the wall? thanks, that would be great..."

  Which line?
• Laley23

  

  SportsAndLady;1864664 wrote:Which line?

  I assume the "don't discredit something simply because you don't want it to be true" or whatever it was. But he had like 3-4 great lines that episode.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  gut;1864662 wrote:Nothing?
  
  I thought it was a pretty damn good episode. So much happened, but none of it felt forced or rushed. And tip of the cap to Tryion for the best, and most on-the-nose, line in maybe the entire series.

  And yet, you don't repeat the line
• Zoltan

  Great episode. I like how even with all that is going on they are still making time for the one on one dialogue that makes the show great.
  
  Cutting to Jaime riding the horse with the Lannister army after they fled, with the music playing, was just vintage GOF. Chess pieces moving on the board.
• superman

  Olenna went out like a G.
  
  I love the Tyrion and Jon interactions. They are so true to each other.
  
  I can't stand what they have done with Bran.
  
  Team Cersei is laying a beating on team Dany.
• gut

  ernest_t_bass;1864678 wrote:And yet, you don't repeat the line

  The line about brooding.
• gut

  superman;1864681 wrote: Team Cersei is laying a beating on team Dany.

  Tyrion may find himself in the doghouse...
  
  Interesting contrast between his planning and Jaimie talking to Olenna about that war. It shows you that while Tyrion might be very smart, he's thinking politically and not particularly strategically (which makes sense, because he doesn't actually have much military experience). Tyrion thought Casterly Rock would be a big deal, but Jaimie was just like "ehhh, I'll take it back later".
• SportsAndLady

  

  gut;1864703 wrote:The line about brooding.

  You can't just say the line?
• Heretic

  

  gut;1864705 wrote:Tyrion may find himself in the doghouse...
  
  Interesting contrast between his planning and Jaimie talking to Olenna about that war. It shows you that while Tyrion might be very smart, he's thinking politically and not particularly strategically (which makes sense, because he doesn't actually have much military experience). Tyrion thought Casterly Rock would be a big deal, but Jaimie was just like "ehhh, I'll take it back later".

  And the way he's been out of the loop for however much time in GoT land that the fifth and sixth seasons covered (as well as most of the fourth, since he spent most of that time in the dungeons), not knowing that CR's gold mines are dry, so the place doesn't have the strategic importance to the Lannister's that he naturally would have assumed. Really, strategy-wise, Team Dany has had a few blunders, such as assuming House Tyrell's status as Lords of the Reach would outweigh the fact that House Tyrell is a dying house with one senior citizen left, making it easy to convince other Reach lords to side with the crown.
• Automatik

  

  Finger in the bum!
• superman

  Heretic;1864712 wrote:And the way he's been out of the loop for however much time in GoT land that the fifth and sixth seasons covered (as well as most of the fourth, since he spent most of that time in the dungeons), not knowing that CR's gold mines are dry, so the place doesn't have the strategic importance to the Lannister's that he naturally would have assumed. Really, strategy-wise, Team Dany has had a few blunders, such as assuming House Tyrell's status as Lords of the Reach would outweigh the fact that House Tyrell is a dying house with one senior citizen left, making it easy to convince other Reach lords to side with the crown.

  You would think with Varys and the only Air force in westeros, they would have some info.
• Heretic

  

  superman;1864719 wrote:You would think with Varys and the only Air force in westeros, they would have some info.

  The Air Force might not be that helpful because, other than Dany, I don't know if there's anyone that can ride them safely and this episode they did at least address that with people saying she was too important to risk by having her lead anything from a dragon.
  
  Varys is a different story. Makes me wonder if that Ep 2 discussion with Dany calling him out on how he's betrayed every single monarch he's advised might have significance going forward. Crazy, stupid Viserys was his first choice and she was the afterthought to be sold off to give Viserys his army and then nearly was assassinated when she started to make her move. Makes me wonder if he's thinking someone else might be more deserving of the throne and is still playing his games so both Dany and Cersei weaken their forces. But that might just be me projecting because in the books he is backing another candidate (a book-only character not appearing in the show) and is more creepy and sinister, while in the show, he's generally been portrayed as the better version of Littlefinger, where both are scheming information brokers, but he's shown as trying to make things better.
• gut

  SportsAndLady;1864711 wrote:You can't just say the line?

  Can't you just read like two posts above?
• SportsAndLady

  

  gut;1864729 wrote:Can't you just read like two posts above?

  Or you can actually post the quote
• Automatik

  

  I suggest watching the show. Turn on CC if needed, I prefer it.
  
  Hope this helps!
• gut

  SportsAndLady;1864730 wrote:Or you can actually post the quote

  
  There were like 2 or 3 lines about Jon's brooding. I don't remember the exact quote. Look it up yourself.