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• Glory Days

  

  isadore;1738601 wrote: The Democratic Party over its continuing it has moved toward more tolerant and enlightened views on race, gender and sexual orientation.

  For purely selfish political gains. How is Baltimore's top to bottom democrat controlled city fairing?
• Glory Days

  

  isadore;1738671 wrote:Gosh a ruddies General Lee killed hundreds of thousands of American soldiers.

  and our founding fathers owned slaves...for hundreds of years....so should we rename our country and get ride of the American flag too?
• isadore

  Glory Days;1738681 wrote:For purely selfish political gains. How is Baltimore's top to bottom democrat controlled city fairing?

  how cynical of you, gosh the Republican Party purposely abandoned civil rights as the Southern strategy to win the votes of southern bigots. Now that was cynical
• isadore

  Glory Days;1738682 wrote:and our founding fathers owned slaves...for hundreds of years....so should we rename our country and get ride of the American flag too?

  Gosh a ruddies America moved toward enlightenment. George Washington freed his slaves in his will. Hamilton and Franklin came to support manumission. The states north of the Mason Dixon Line and Ohio River abolished slavery in the antebellum era. But the South moved in the opposite direction destroying the Union in order to protect their Peculiar Institution. Their flag does not deserve any position of honor or acclamationGosh a ruddies our society was moving toward enlightenment. and gosh it is rid not ride.
  
• Glory Days

  

  isadore;1738688 wrote:Gosh a ruddies America moved toward enlightenment. George Washington freed his slaves in his will. Hamilton and Franklin came to support manumission. The states north of the Mason Dixon Line and Ohio River abolished slavery in the antebellum era. But the South moved in the opposite direction destroying the Union in order to protect their Peculiar Institution. Their flag does not deserve any position of honor or acclamationGosh a ruddies our society was moving toward enlightenment. and gosh it is rid not ride.
  

  seriously? he freed his slaves after his death. if that's true, how noble of him to wait until HIS death :RpS_glare:
  
  and the Union states of Maryland, Missouri, Delaware, Kentucky, and the District of Columbia all had slaves at the start of the civil war. Delaware and Kentucky had slavery until the 13th Amendment was passed.
• Belly35

  

  Al Bundy;1738678 wrote:Word perfect still exists?

  really my thoughts also. Who the hell still uses word perfect......
• Belly35

  

  Time to abolish the social welfare program of slavery... It has destroyed the family unit, inslaved people not to achieve, participants to be dependent on the master government.
• rmolin73

  

  Belly35;1738721 wrote:really my thoughts also. Who the hell still uses word perfect......

  Lol this is funny as hell to me.
• Belly35

  

  rmolin73;1738726 wrote:Lol this is funny as hell to me.

  I'll be here Monday thur Friday bring a friend..
• isadore

  Glory Days;1738718 wrote:seriously? he freed his slaves after his death. if that's true, how noble of him to wait until HIS death :RpS_glare:
  
  and the Union states of Maryland, Missouri, Delaware, Kentucky, and the District of Columbia all had slaves at the start of the civil war. Delaware and Kentucky had slavery until the 13th Amendment was passed.

  Washington’s actions set them free and provided for them sixty plus years before the 13rd Amendment. That is a good thing. <o></o>
  .Slavery was the reason for the existence of the Confederacy. Every state in it had slavery and wanted the Peculiar Institution protected and expanded. All the states above the Mason Dixon Line or the Ohio River had abolished slavery. The states you list are all Southern states that chose to remain in the Union. They did not support treason. The interpretation of the Constitution prevalent at the time did not allow the President or the Congress on its own to end slavery in a state not in rebellion. The 13[SUP]th[/SUP] Amendment pushed by Lincoln, proposed by Congress and ratified by the states did the job.<o></o>
  
• isadore

  Belly35;1738722 wrote:Time to abolish the social welfare program of slavery... It has destroyed the family unit, inslaved people not to achieve, participants to be dependent on the master government.

  It is enslaved not inslaved, you should use WORD, it would help.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Glory Days;1738718 wrote:seriously? he freed his slaves after his death. if that's true, how noble of him to wait until HIS death :RpS_glare:
  
  and the Union states of Maryland, Missouri, Delaware, Kentucky, and the District of Columbia all had slaves at the start of the civil war. Delaware and Kentucky had slavery until the 13th Amendment was passed.

  Yes, the Founding Fathers owned slaves, it is a contradiction that we have to live with, but one cannot bring them up when discussing the Civil War. That is like bringing up social and ethical norms of the 1920s and comparing them to today. Does not make much sense as the country has evolved, much like it did from the late 18th century to 1865.
  
  As for Maryland, yes it was a slave state, mainly in the Eastern shore, as was Delaware, but the states as a whole were more divided on the topic. Missouri was a slave state due to the 1819 compromise, DC due to it being the capital and had to appease to the Southern way so to tick off the south. Kentucky was also slave yes, but not so much as other states and remained "neutral" during the civil war, with most of the state fighting for the Union.
• BR1986FB

  isadore;1738671 wrote:Gosh a ruddies General Lee killed hundreds of thousands of American soldiers.

  The car from the Dukes of Hazzard killed hundreds of thousands of American soldiers? News to me....
• Heretic

  

  BR1986FB;1738747 wrote:The car from the Dukes of Hazzard killed hundreds of thousands of American soldiers? News to me....

  That episode stopped being aired in syndication a while ago.
• isadore

  BR1986FB;1738747 wrote:The car from the Dukes of Hazzard killed hundreds of thousands of American soldiers? News to me....

  gosh a ruddies they chose to put the flag representing slavery and traitor on the car and name it for a traitor who was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of American soldiers.
• Al Bundy

  isadore;1738750 wrote:gosh a ruddies they chose to put the flag representing slavery and traitor on the car and name it for a traitor who was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of American soldiers.

  Do you have these numbers saved on your Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet?
• Glory Days

  

  ptown_trojans_1;1738743 wrote:Yes, the Founding Fathers owned slaves, it is a contradiction that we have to live with, but one cannot bring them up when discussing the Civil War. That is like bringing up social and ethical norms of the 1920s and comparing them to today. Does not make much sense as the country has evolved, much like it did from the late 18th century to 1865.
  
  As for Maryland, yes it was a slave state, mainly in the Eastern shore, as was Delaware, but the states as a whole were more divided on the topic. Missouri was a slave state due to the 1819 compromise, DC due to it being the capital and had to appease to the Southern way so to tick off the south. Kentucky was also slave yes, but not so much as other states and remained "neutral" during the civil war, with most of the state fighting for the Union.

  personally I don't care that the founding fathers owned slaves. but people like isadore treat them like gods.
• Glory Days

  

  isadore;1738730 wrote: Washington&#8217;s actions set them free and provided for them sixty plus years before the 13rd Amendment. That is a good thing. <o></o>
  .Slavery was the reason for the existence of the Confederacy. Every state in it had slavery and wanted the Peculiar Institution protected and expanded. All the states above the Mason Dixon Line or the Ohio River had abolished slavery. The states you list are all Southern states that chose to remain in the Union. They did not support treason. The interpretation of the Constitution prevalent at the time did not allow the President or the Congress on its own to end slavery in a state not in rebellion. The 13[SUP]th[/SUP] Amendment pushed by Lincoln, proposed by Congress and ratified by the states did the job.<o></o>
  

  technically Delaware is above the mason dixon line. you can claim the slavery was the reason of the confederacy, but the union did not invade the south to free the slaves.
• isadore

  Glory Days;1738814 wrote:technically Delaware is above the mason dixon line. you can claim the slavery was the reason of the confederacy, but the union did not invade the south to free the slaves.

  The bulk of Delaware is not above the Mason Dixon Line,. It is not a claim that the Confederacy was the reason for the Confederacy, it is a fact admitted by the Secession conventions, President and Vice President of the CSA. After the Emancipation Proclamation the Union Army became the agent of liberation for Southern slaves, its purpose evolved and grew.
  
• isadore

  Glory Days;1738813 wrote:personally I don't care that the founding fathers owned slaves. but people like isadore treat them like gods.

  not all of them, Thomas Jefferson was a hypocrite and coward who raped a teen aged slave girl.
• isadore

  Al Bundy;1738752 wrote:Do you have these numbers saved on your Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet?

  no
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Glory Days;1738814 wrote:technically Delaware is above the mason dixon line. you can claim the slavery was the reason of the confederacy, but the union did not invade the south to free the slaves.

  Technically correct.
  The Union fought to get the states together initially.
  It was then after the Emanicipation Proclamation that the reason turned to both keeping the Union together and freeing slaves.
• thavoice

  ptown_trojans_1;1738743 wrote:Yes, the Founding Fathers owned slaves, it is a contradiction that we have to live with, but one cannot bring them up when discussing the Civil War. That is like bringing up social and ethical norms of the 1920s and comparing them to today. Does not make much sense as the country has evolved, much like it did from the late 18th century to 1865.
  
  As for Maryland, yes it was a slave state, mainly in the Eastern shore, as was Delaware, but the states as a whole were more divided on the topic. Missouri was a slave state due to the 1819 compromise, DC due to it being the capital and had to appease to the Southern way so to tick off the south. Kentucky was also slave yes, but not so much as other states and remained "neutral" during the civil war, with most of the state fighting for the Union.

  FF owned slaves, yes.
  Some black folk also owned slaves and many sold their own into slavery from Africa.
• QuakerOats

  'Black lives matter' protesters burn American flag...
  
  nice article .....love the unification by the agitator-in-chief
• gut

  So how many Confederate flags did people see on July 4th?
  
  And I can't really figure out why the Confederate flag should be displayed on July 4th. That's kind of like wearing a Cleveland Cavs jersey to the Super Bowl.