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  • bigorangebuck22
    As a society we've moved from the Information Age to the Age of Offended
  • steubbigred
    This should have started out in the drunj forum
  • Spock
    there are plenty of racism coming from the minority communities in the US. Dont see them having to back down.

    When are we done with the "black colleges"
  • FatHobbit
    SportsAndLady;1736990 wrote:In 2015, if you lynch a black person you are some sort of mentally deranged. Yes.
    Why is it different now? It almost seems like you're making excuses for him. (Maybe I'm reading that wrong) He did it because he was a racist piece of shit. When you say he was mentally ill, it seems to me like you are saying he couldn't help himself.
  • Wolves of Babylon
    Prejudice equals Black people like watermelon, can play bass or can play basketball.

    Racist equals Black people should die, be slaves or are inferior species because they are black.

    Pretty easy to distinguish in my opinion.



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  • gut
    Or maybe shooting up a black Church was a way for this wacko to distinguish his notoriety, rather than just another crazy that shot-up a school or movie theater.

    I'm not sure we'll ever know his history with being a racist. One friend said the guy had black friends in high school. Just saying it's not impossible his "racism" was manufactured or perhaps triggered by hard drug use and/or a mental breakdown.
  • SportsAndLady
    FatHobbit;1737272 wrote:Why is it different now? It almost seems like you're making excuses for him. (Maybe I'm reading that wrong) He did it because he was a racist piece of shit. When you say he was mentally ill, it seems to me like you are saying he couldn't help himself.
    Well if you can't tell the difference in racial tension and social norms in 1967 and 2015, I don't know what to tell you.

    And I'm not making excuses for the guy. He's a racist sack of shit who should be burned alive as a death penalty. But he was definitely mentally not-all-there.
  • Fab4Runner
    SportsAndLady;1737277 wrote:Well if you can't tell the difference in racial tension and social norms in 1967 and 2015, I don't know what to tell you.

    And I'm not making excuses for the guy. He's a racist sack of shit who should be burned alive as a death penalty. But he was definitely mentally not-all-there.
    If that's the case, why wouldn't they sentence him to a psychiatric facility?
  • gut
    Fab4Runner;1737331 wrote:If that's the case, why wouldn't they sentence him to a psychiatric facility?
    Mentally ill doesn't mean he was insane/incompetent. He might "serve" in a psychiatric facility, but it's probably not enough to keep him off death row. One can be seriously mentally ill and still know their actions were wrong, especially when talking about something premeditated.
  • rmolin73
    The vast majority of murders are a little mentally unstable. But it seems as if whenever there is a mass murder that is the first label most try and put on the person if it's a white guy.
  • gut
    rmolin73;1737336 wrote:But it seems as if whenever there is a mass murder that is the first label most try and put on the person if it's a white guy.
    But it's almost always a white guy, at least in the US.
  • rmolin73
    gut;1737337 wrote:But it's almost always a white guy, at least in the US.
    True
  • Tiernan
    ...and they are usually from the South which right away means they probably have an IQ somewhere between a possum and a potato.
  • Heretic
    From what I've read about the dude, at the least he was a very high-functioning psycho. He seemed to have compiled a lot of information and had a definite plan for what he wanted to do. More of a sociopath than a frothing loony, in any case.
  • sleeper
    gut;1737337 wrote:But it's almost always a white guy, at least in the US.
    Aaron Alexis, the guy who shot up the Navy Yard in DC in September 2013 was black. He was definitely labeled mentally unstable.
  • Tiernan
    sleeper;1737379 wrote:Aaron Alexis, the guy who shot up the Navy Yard in DC in September 2013 was black. He was definitely labeled mentally unstable.
    Yeah that's the guy that woulda got you that day if he'd been a better shot right?
  • BR1986FB
    gut;1737335 wrote:Mentally ill doesn't mean he was insane/incompetent. He might "serve" in a psychiatric facility, but it's probably not enough to keep him off death row. One can be seriously mentally ill and still know their actions were wrong, especially when talking about something premeditated.
    I don't know how "mentally ill" this guy is. He said that when he sat down and got to know the people in that church, he "almost couldn't go through with it because they were so nice to him" so he was aware of his actions and knew they were wrong. One would think this would take any insanity defense off the table if they push for the death penalty. I think the dude was more of a racist POS than he was mentally ill.
  • sleeper
    Tiernan;1737386 wrote:Yeah that's the guy that woulda got you that day if he'd been a better shot right?
    He very well could have but I was crouched behind a desk in a locked office.
  • fish82
    rmolin73;1737336 wrote:The vast majority of murders are a little mentally unstable. But it seems as if whenever there is a mass murder that is the first label most try and put on the person if it's a white guy.
    The fact that most, if not all of them have been on some kind of medication for the treatment of mental illness makes it easier.
  • gut
    BR1986FB;1737390 wrote:I don't know how "mentally ill" this guy is. He said that when he sat down and got to know the people in that church, he "almost couldn't go through with it because they were so nice to him" so he was aware of his actions and knew they were wrong. One would think this would take any insanity defense off the table if they push for the death penalty. I think the dude was more of a racist POS than he was mentally ill.
    That's my point. You can have serious mental issues but you have to be batshit loco to get off on insanity when it was premeditated. There are plenty of people with serious mental issues who are functional. Saying his mental issues/drug use were likely a significant contributing factor isn't the same as saying he didn't know what he was doing.
  • Zoltan
    Should any mental illness shield you from regular sentencing when you killed 9 innocent people? Lots of diseases sentence you to death, and if you have a mental illness that caused you to kill nine people maybe that should too.
  • iclfan2
    Zoltan;1737450 wrote:Should any mental illness shield you from regular sentencing when you killed 9 innocent people? Lots of diseases sentence you to death, and if you have a mental illness that caused you to kill nine people maybe that should too.
    No. Sane or ill, both need put down.


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  • Mulva
    Zoltan;1737450 wrote:Should any mental illness shield you from regular sentencing when you killed 9 innocent people? Lots of diseases sentence you to death, and if you have a mental illness that caused you to kill nine people maybe that should too.
    Actus reus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea.
  • FatHobbit
    Mulva;1737552 wrote:Actus reus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea.
    Come on boys. We don't want any trouble here. Not in any language.