No jobs for grads

• sleeper

  

  I Wear Pants;1619206 wrote:So do you think millennials are lazy or not?

  My first comment was sarcasm. I guess my second comment is sarcasm as well.
  
  Basically, no. I don't think millennials are lazy.
• georgemc80

  Ok. I have been in education for 20 years. I know that will discredit my opinion in some of your eyes. However, I don't care. I am doing the career I have wanted since I was in 7th grade. With that said, getting a job is not easy. It won't be given to you. So here is what I tell my recent college grads.
  
  1. You have to get after it.
  2. You must network. I can find a job tomorrow with a couple phone calls.
  3. Be flexible. Show grit. Be willing to move to the job. Texas didn't suffer in this last recession. There are lots of jobs.
  4. Work on problem solving. This generation relied to much on their parents. (My kids included, and I'm trying to fix that currently) Bring possible solutions to all problems, not just the problem.
  5. Always do what you need to do. No job is bad as long as it keeps something coming in.
  
  Before i I am ignorantly accused of being part of the boomer generation (some of you need to look into therapy). I am a wise 43.
• jmog

  Best advice to youngins trying to find a job? Major in something that employers actually want. A degree in humanities sounds like fun but no one wants to hire you.
  
  http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323936804578229873392511426
  
  
  Find a career on that list with a sub 4% unemployment and you won't have a problem finding a job. I have never had to interview at more than 2 places to find a job, and I came out of college during the 9/11 recession (graduated the May after 9/11).
  
  I didnt look through all the list, but I didn't see an engineering career with above 3.5% unemployment. Dentists and dental hygenists are very low as well.
• dlazz

  jmog;1619566 wrote: I didnt look through all the list, but I didn't see an engineering career with above 3.5% unemployment. Dentists and dental hygenists are very low as well.

  So everyone in the world should be dentists and engineers? Please, share more of this wisdom with us.
• Pick6

  

  dlazz;1619574 wrote:So everyone in the world should be dentists and engineers? Please, share more of this wisdom with us.

  That degree in criminology is really working out for you!
• dlazz

  Pick6;1619584 wrote:That degree in criminology is really working out for you!

  Actually, it is. It got me my current job.
• Al Bundy

  dlazz;1619574 wrote:So everyone in the world should be dentists and engineers? Please, share more of this wisdom with us.

  Everyone should have a service or product that is of some value to others and be able to show others why they are worth a certain amount. Many college grads are as bad as the fast food workers who think their salaries should double. They have a skill set worth little or no market value, then they whine when no one wants to pay them.
• jmog

  dlazz;1619574 wrote:So everyone in the world should be dentists and engineers? Please, share more of this wisdom with us.

  Did you actually read what I typed or just want to be an ass?
  
  i said best way to get a job is to major in something with a low unemployment rate LIKE dentistry, dental hygenists, engineering, etc. It was a few examples off that list of many.
• dlazz

  jmog;1619592 wrote: just want to be an ass?

  This
• HitsRus

  

  georgemc80;1619562 wrote:Ok. I have been in education for 20 years. I know that will discredit my opinion in some of your eyes. However, I don't care. I am doing the career I have wanted since I was in 7th grade. With that said, getting a job is not easy. It won't be given to you. So here is what I tell my recent college grads.
  
  1. You have to get after it.
  2. You must network. I can find a job tomorrow with a couple phone calls.
  3. Be flexible. Show grit. Be willing to move to the job. Texas didn't suffer in this last recession. There are lots of jobs.
  4. Work on problem solving. This generation relied to much on their parents. (My kids included, and I'm trying to fix that currently) Bring possible solutions to all problems, not just the problem.
  5. Always do what you need to do. No job is bad as long as it keeps something coming in.
  
  Before i I am ignorantly accused of being part of the boomer generation (some of you need to look into therapy). I am a wise 43.

  That's a good post.....and anyone who tries to denigrate you because of what generation you belong to, or makes gross generalizations based on the color of your skin, your gender, your religious or non religious beliefs, or your sexual orientaion, ...deserves nothing but scorn.
  

  i said best way to get a job is to major in something with a low unemployment rate LIKE dentistry, dental hygenists, engineering, etc. It was a few examples off that list of many

  The only problem with that is that it is a moving target, and what is the job outlook for what you plan for may change in 5 years. the best you can do is to pick a profession that you enjoy that has reasonable expectations...and be adaptable.
• Classyposter58

  

  I will admit a lot is on the person with the degree. I'm getting mine in Secondary Education in Social Studies yet I know many business people who have openly told me they would hire me upon graduation for a sales job and actually hope I don't go down the teaching route. Fact is people that lack common sense and business acumen will fail to be successful no matter what
• gut

  HitsRus;1619631 wrote: The only problem with that is that it is a moving target, and what is the job outlook for what you plan for may change in 5 years. the best you can do is to pick a profession that you enjoy that has reasonable expectations...and be adaptable.

  If I was starting undergrad today, I'd pair some sort of IT degree (or at least learn SQL, preferably along with Java and maybe C++) with Accounting or Engineering. When you pair technical SKILLS (as opposed to just being savvy) with a good business IQ you can go anywhere and do about anything.
  
  The explosion in big data with internet/social networking/mobile is going to necessitate people with the technical AND business skills to evolve and adapt quickly.
• dlazz

  Classyposter58;1619641 wrote:I will admit a lot is on the person with the degree. I'm getting mine in Secondary Education in Social Studies yet I know many business people who have openly told me they would hire me upon graduation for a sales job

  That's because sales jobs are a dime a dozen.
• Classyposter58

  

  dlazz;1619645 wrote:That's because sales jobs are a dime a dozen.

  Solid well paying ones though, I mean hey 55k at 23 isn't too bad
• Pick6

  

  Do you even need a degree to land a sales job?
• Classyposter58

  

  Pick6;1619647 wrote:Do you even need a degree to land a sales job?

  Regional salesman in Detroit for Sheraton Hotels lol they want educated people
• friendfromlowry

  If I was giving advice to a high school graduate who was completely undecided, I'd tell them to consider a job in allied health. Respiratory therapy, radiology tech, polysomnography, EEG tech, electrocardiogram tech, etc. These jobs are utilized in virtually every city across the country where you can work days, evenings, weekends, nights. You can do it living off campus and really minimize graduating debt. And it's a skillset you'll have the rest of your life and always be in demand. The 12 hour and off-shifts make it easier to go back to school for something else if desired, too.
• gut

  Healthcare in general is a great field to go into. Sure Obamakare has knocked it down, but that's one industry you can pretty much guarantee will grow significantly almost every year.
  
  On the other hand, you look at oil/energy...Say you're an engineer just coming out of college. The pay and opportunities are fantastic, currently. But what about 20-30 years from now as you're in the prime of you earning power? If you're skills are transferrable that's great, but otherwise I think it's kind of scary to go into an industry that might be seriously shrinking at exactly the time you're supposed to start raking it in.
• jmog

  HitsRus;1619631 wrote:
  
  The only problem with that is that it is a moving target, and what is the job outlook for what you plan for may change in 5 years. the best you can do is to pick a profession that you enjoy that has reasonable expectations...and be adaptable.

  Yes and no.
  
  I would say say that a majority of the ones with extremely low unemployment on that list are nearly recession proof and won't change I a short period of time like 4 years. I do agree that one should be adaptable as I am currently no where near the same market/industry that I started in.
• HitsRus

  

  ^^^^I can tell you that right now there is a glut of dental hygienists. ... I have heard from some recent nursing graduayes that they are having trouble find employment because hospitals are not hiring.....and I can remember a time when aerospace engineers were getting laid off by the tens of thousands. As I said earlier in this thread, I know a young man with a civil engineering degree from OSU that has been looking for 3+ years.
  
  That said I think all professions go thru cycles, but you are certainly right that those on the 'low unemployment' part of the list stand a better chance of finding work in their field than some of the others....and that people need to consider employment outlook when choosing their field of study.
• Belly35

  

  If what I have built in my career is not of my hard work and dedication as an entrepreneur that created employment. According to the present administration " I didn't build it" government did then those grads should rethink what type of politic they want ..socialist or capitalist
• Ytowngirlinfla

  

  HitsRus;1619663 wrote:^^^^I can tell you that right now there is a glut of dental hygienists. ... I have heard from some recent nursing graduayes that they are having trouble find employment because hospitals are not hiring.....and I can remember a time when aerospace engineers were getting laid off by the tens of thousands. As I said earlier in this thread, I know a young man with a civil engineering degree from OSU that has been looking for 3+ years.
  
  That said I think all professions go thru cycles, but you are certainly right that those on the 'low unemployment' part of the list stand a better chance of finding work in their field than some of the others....and that people need to consider employment outlook when choosing their field of study.

  In the medical field nursing he past 15 years or so has been a very competitive field for jobs. So many people go to nursing school and they have an abundance of graduates. Especially when you can get an RN in 2 years vs 4.
• dlazz

  Belly35;1619664 wrote:If what I have built in my career is not of my hard work and dedication as an entrepreneur that created employment. According to the present administration " I didn't build it" government did then those grads should rethink what type of politic they want ..socialist or capitalist

  Great contribution to the thread, Belly.
  
  :thumbdown:
• dlazz

  Pick6;1619647 wrote:Do you even need a degree to land a sales job?

  Not really, but I think the market is so saturated with desperate people that they make the requirements higher.
• Pick6

  

  gut;1619655 wrote:
  On the other hand, you look at oil/energy...Say you're an engineer just coming out of college. The pay and opportunities are fantastic, currently. But what about 20-30 years from now as you're in the prime of you earning power? If you're skills are transferrable that's great, but otherwise I think it's kind of scary to go into an industry that might be seriously shrinking at exactly the time you're supposed to start raking it in.

  this is a good point to consider. I'm considering specializing in oil/gas industry due to the opportunities it currently presents. Right now it gives me unlimited potential, but I'm not sure how well the choice will pay off as I'm nearing the end of my career. We currently have an oil and gas division at my office in Cleveland, and it is huge in Houston where I am considering transferring. If I do make the choice, hopefully by the time the industry starts to decline, I will have a big enough nest egg where it won't really matter (even though I will be at the peak of my earnings power) in the 5 or so year period from the decline until when I retire.