Big passenger jet may have gone down

• Tiernan

  It sleeps with the fishes. And the chances are it is not found for quite some time (years maybe) are pretty good.
• WebFire

  Tiernan;1591172 wrote:It sleeps with the fishes. And the chances are it is not found for quite some time (years maybe) are pretty good.

  You'd almost deliberately have to land the plane in the ocean to not create a debris field. And if that is the case, how do you explain away the lack of communication and sudden loss of the plane on radar?
  
  Just crashing into the ocean would create a detectable debris field.
• Tiernan

  Didn't find the Air France plane for two years and they knew where it went down. This puppy is gone gone and gone. Tiernan is always right.
• WebFire

  Tiernan;1591188 wrote:Didn't find the Air France plane for two years and they knew where it went down. This puppy is gone gone and gone. Tiernan is always right.

  The one a few years ago? They pulled wreckage and bodies out of the water within 5 days of the wreck. It was the black boxes they didn't find for two years. Tiernan isn't always right.
• Rotinaj

  

  Tiernan is rarely right. The word he was looking for after always was drunk.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Glory Days;1591162 wrote:The plane crashed in the ocean. but to play along with your theory, the only place I see it being able to land fairly undetected is Africa. All of the other countries, even places like Pakistan, have somewhat modern radar and would pick up on something like a jumbo jet(especially coming from the direction of India). and a lot of those countries also have a heavy US military presence, so I would hope they would pick up on the plane too.

  Lol there it is! The classic American "but radar would have picked it up!"
• SportsAndLady

  

  WebFire;1591185 wrote:You'd almost deliberately have to land the plane in the ocean to not create a debris field. And if that is the case, how do you explain away the lack of communication and sudden loss of the plane on radar?
  
  Just crashing into the ocean would create a detectable debris field.

  Right. Don't they have like 6 different navy's looking for this downed plane? You're telling me they can't find one single piece of debris in over a week of searching?
• bases_loaded

  

  They were searching the wrong area the first 5 days
• Tigerfan00

  

  bases_loaded;1591200 wrote:They were searching the wrong area the first 5 days

  Is there a right area to search when you don't know where the hell it is?
• Pick6

  

  I'm having a little bit of trouble believing what I'm reading in this thread.
• vball10set

  Pick6;1591240 wrote:I'm having a little bit of trouble believing what I'm reading in this thread.

  lol, what makes this one different than any other?
• reclegend22

  

  IMO there is little chance that this plane, whether still fully intact or not, is anywhere near the ocean. Satellite pings now indicate the plane traveled more than seven hours after its last known communication over the south China sea, pointing to the theory that whoever was piloting the plane at that time was flying it to an intended location. In that scenario, it's very unlikely that the intended location was the middle of the Indian Ocean.
  
  My guess is that the plane was headed north and either reached that location (some desolate desert strip somewhere in India or Pakistan) or hit inclement weather and crashed into the side of a 25-thousand-foot mountain near Nepal. In either case, the current search is way off base.
• bases_loaded

  

  Tigerfan00;1591227 wrote:Is there a right area to search when you don't know where the hell it is?

  They lied/withheld information which lead to other country's navies looking on the probable flight path as opposed to the most updated one Malaysia knew about.
• SportsAndLady

  

  reclegend22;1591255 wrote:IMO there is little chance that this plane, whether still fully intact or not, is anywhere near the ocean. Satellite pings now indicate the plane traveled more than seven hours after its last known communication over the south China sea, pointing to the theory that whoever was piloting the plane at that time was flying it to an intended location. In that scenario, it's very unlikely that the intended location was the middle of the Indian Ocean.
  
  My guess is that the plane was headed north and either reached that location (some desolate desert strip somewhere in India or Pakistan) or hit inclement weather and crashed into the side of a 25-thousand-foot mountain near Nepal. In either case, the current search is way off base.

  This.
  
  I laugh at the ignorance of those that think the pilot just lost control of the plane, drove hundreds of miles off path, and the plane crashed in the ocean. Lol.
• -Society-

  

  WebFire;1591189 wrote:The one a few years ago? They pulled wreckage and bodies out of the water within 5 days of the wreck. It was the black boxes they didn't find for two years. Tiernan isn't always right.

  Not quite correct there webby:

  Bodies and debris from the Rio de Janeiro-to-Paris flight emerged in the days and weeks following the crash, but investigators took nearly two years to retrieve the main wreckage and "black boxes" from Flight 447.

  What they found after 5 days was only floating on the surface.
• Pick6

  

  -Society-;1591276 wrote:Not quite correct there webby:
  
  
  What they found after 5 days was only floating on the surface.

  I must be having a reading comprehension fail because it looks like webbie didn't say anything wrong to me.
• WebFire

  -Society-;1591276 wrote:Not quite correct there webby:
  
  
  What they found after 5 days was only floating on the surface.

  Right?
• Tiernan

  The flight recorders are what is important but yeah I reluctantly give you that the debris at least verified a crash. In the case of the Malaysian flight that would eliminate all the 007 theorists that so desperately want this plane to be found at some Dr Evil's Liar high in the Himalayas where he built a 5000 ft runway on an ice flow.
• Cat Food Flambe'

  

  The problem is now in trying to find the debris field if it does indeed exist. The area they now to search is ginourmous - and the strong surface currents might take any wreckage hundreds of miles further away from any impact site. It would take weeks to cover the entire area. We knew more or less where the Air France flight went down with an area of about 50x50 miles, in an area with minimal ocean currents.
  
  For the landing at a hidden site theory - quietly killing the passengers and remaining crew would have been easy - just shut off the cabin oxygen supply for a few minutes, and everyone loses the ability to raise an alarm in about ninety seconds.
• -Society-

  

  Pick6;1591278 wrote:I must be having a reading comprehension fail because it looks like webbie didn't say anything wrong to me.

  It was a reading comprehension fail. What webby said implied that they found the plane within 5 days, they didn't. They only found debris floating on the surface. Not the same.
• Glory Days

  

  SportsAndLady;1591197 wrote:Right. Don't they have like 6 different navy's looking for this downed plane? You're telling me they can't find one single piece of debris in over a week of searching?

  You do realize how large the ocean is right? 6 navy's wouldn't be enough for the Great Lakes, let alone the Indian Ocean.
• WebFire

  -Society-;1591416 wrote:It was a reading comprehension fail. What webby said implied that they found the plane within 5 days, they didn't. They only found debris floating on the surface. Not the same.

  No, that's exactly what I meant. The found wreckage (debris) and bodies in the water within 5 days. They KNEW the had a crash.
• -Society-

  

  WebFire;1591420 wrote:No, that's exactly what I meant. The found wreckage (debris) and bodies in the water within 5 days. They KNEW the had a crash.

  Well, no shit they KNEW they had a crash, but they didn't find the main wreckage until 2 years later. Lol!!11!1!!!!1!11 Just because they found debris FLOATING on the water, does not mean that they found the actual plane. LoL!!!1!1111!1!!!11!
  
  If I drop a box of cheerios in my pond and find cheerios floating on the water a few minutes later, it doesn't mean that I found the box of cheerios.
• WebFire

  -Society-;1591423 wrote:Well, no shit they KNEW they had a crash, but they didn't find the main wreckage until 2 years later. Lol!!11!1!!!!1!11 Just because they found debris FLOATING on the water, does not mean that they found the actual plane. LoL!!!1!1111!1!!!11!
  
  If I drop a box of cheerios in my pond and find cheerios floating on the water a few minutes later, it doesn't mean that I found the box of cheerios.

  Go back and re-read, then maybe you'll understand what's going on here.
• -Society-

  

  WebFire;1591427 wrote:Go back and re-read, then maybe you'll understand what's going on here.

  No need to. I fully understand. What tiernan said was correct:

  Didn't find the Air France plane for two years and they knew where it went down.

  You tried being smart and come out looking like an idiot. lOl!1!1!1!1!!!!1!1!11