Anyone can troll a website, but it takes talent to troll a whole town
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Y-Town Steelhound
I think the average, innocent 6 year old orphan dying of starvation in Africa has a bigger gripe with God about "not trying hard enough on me" than I do...sleeper;1151653 wrote:And you can explain simply "not enough evidence God" or "You didn't try hard enough on me God". It's EZ. -
sleeper
Like hard enough to "convert" or whatever. If there is a god, he's pretty lazy and pretty weak that a mere mortal can block him out. He's also an asshole who kills kids for fun.Y-Town Steelhound;1151655 wrote:I think the average, innocent 6 year old orphan dying of starvation in Africa has a bigger gripe with God about "not trying hard enough on me" than I do... -
fish82
Because as we all know, Physics is 100% about gravity and nothing else.sleeper;1151537 wrote:I don't need to know jack about physics to know that gravity is real. I don't need to know jack about religion to know its a fraud.
Enjoy!
For such a hardcore pseudo-intellectual, you ain't much of a deep thinker, are ya? Just sayin.
Oh cool...this is always my favorite part of the thread!sleeper;1151552 wrote::rolleyes:
Graduated from Ohio State Summa Cum Laude. I've probably read more books in one weekend than you have in your entire life. I'd rather not spend effort trying to convince believers with rationality, they don't play by the same rules. Why is that? Because rationality and religion do not mix; its not worth the effort.
I graduated 3rd in my class at Duke...double major in Behavioral Psychology and Molecular Biology. PhD in Behavioral Economics from Yale. I've read more books in an afternoon than you have in your entire life. My wife is a supermodel and I have a 4800 sq ft house on a golf course.
Oh, and I have a 10-inch cock.
Internets.....gotta love 'em.
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OSH
That commandment wouldn't exist without the Judeo-Christian scriptures.Y-Town Steelhound;1151643 wrote:Sleeper's point is a big reason why I adopt the "don't know, won't know, don't care" philosophy as opposed to "believe in God in case he exists" philosophy. This way when I die it doesn't matter if it's God, Jehovah, Jesus, Allah, Sheeva, Xenu, Flying Spaghetti Monster, Zeus, Unknown Deity X, Liam Neeson or whoever else is the creator/manager of the universe waiting to greet me I'll be screwed all the same. At least I won't break the "don't worship any other gods" commandment.
Since that is the case, it doesn't matter if there were any other deity "when it's all been said and done." Without the Judeo-Christian doctrine, there would be no Allah either. There would be no Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons either.
Beside that, the philosophy of "believe in God in case he exists" is really not THAT good of a reason to profess Christianity. If that were the reason, then there probably isn't much internally to actually proclaim Jesus Christ as one's Lord and Savior. -
Heretic
Apparently you have never played Final Fantasy X (a video game with a world religion at least 4x better and more believable than X-ianity).sleeper;1151583 wrote:And sin has never been proven. There is nothing to avoid. Literally.
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sleeper
It was an example to show that I don't have to know everything about religion to know its glaringly obvious flaws. I'm not going to expel effort to actually shred believer logic when the rules change constantly and faith is allowed to be invoked. These debate tactics are unfair since rationality dictates one perspective and nothing dictates the believer side.fish82;1151660 wrote:Because as we all know, Physics is 100% about gravity and nothing else.
For such a hardcore pseudo-intellectual, you ain't much of a deep thinker, are ya? Just sayin.
Oh cool...this is always my favorite part of the thread!
I graduated 3rd in my class at Duke...double major in Behavioral Psychology and Molecular Biology. PhD in Behavioral Economics from Yale. I've read more books in an afternoon than you have in your entire life. My wife is a supermodel and I have a 4800 sq ft house on a golf course.
Oh, and I have a 10-inch cock.
Internets.....gotta love 'em.
I don't care about your boasts, nor if you don't think mine are accurate. I get my paper made quite easily, and I'm proud of the accomplishments in my life so far. Whether you believe them or not is irrelevant, I will offer whatever proof you'd like should we ever meet in person. -
Con_Alma
These are wonderful statements and I share these sentiments greatly.sleeper;1151673 wrote:...
I don't care about your boasts, nor if you don't think mine are accurate. ...Whether you believe them or not is irrelevant,... -
fish82
"Having flaws" (with which I happen to agree) is not the same as "a crock of cult-like BS." You need to pick a platform.sleeper;1151673 wrote:It was an example to show that I don't have to know everything about religion to know its glaringly obvious flaws.
Really? It strikes me that on this thread anyway...you're expelling a great deal of effort.sleeper;1151673 wrote:I'm not going to expel effort to actually shred believer logic when the rules change constantly and faith is allowed to be invoked. These debate tactics are unfair since rationality dictates one perspective and nothing dictates the believer side. -
fish82
Con_Alma;1151676 wrote:These are wonderful statements and I share these sentiments greatly.
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sleeper
Is Scientology a cult? It's the same as Christianity. How does it feel to be associated with Scientology?fish82;1151678 wrote:"Having flaws" (with which I happen to agree) is not the same as "a crock of cult-like BS." You need to pick a platform.
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sleeper
Also typing is almost effortless. What generation did you think I grew up in? It doesn't take much deep thinking to shred religious belief.
Comments like "Prove it". "If God created all of this, who created God?" It's EZ. -
fish82
No it isn't.sleeper;1151700 wrote:Is Scientology a cult? It's the same as Christianity. How does it feel to be associated with Scientology?
Uh huh.sleeper;1151705 wrote:Also typing is almost effortless. What generation did you think I grew up in? It doesn't take much deep thinking to shred religious belief.
Comments like "Prove it". "If God created all of this, who created God?" It's EZ. -
sleeper
It's a religious belief based on faith. It most certainly is the same thing.
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Raw Dawgin' it
LOL they don't believe in aliens! that's outrageous!sleeper;1151715 wrote:It's a religious belief based on faith. It most certainly is the same thing. -
FatHobbit
I haven't read everything, but I was just curious. Did you guys come to an agreement? -
sleeper
The theists can never be persuaded. Cults build in logical loopholes to get out of having to realize that their beliefs can't stand up to any scrutiny. This thread is Exhibit A.FatHobbit;1151726 wrote:I haven't read everything, but I was just curious. Did you guys come to an agreement? -
fish82
LOL...it has its roots in basic scientific and psychological principles. It's "based on faith" about as much as the writings of Sigmund Freud.sleeper;1151715 wrote:It's a religious belief based on faith. It most certainly is the same thing. -
FatHobbit
K. I'll check back in a couple of days and see if you've made any progress.sleeper;1151729 wrote:The theists can never be persuaded. Cults build in logical loopholes to get out of having to realize that their beliefs can't stand up to any scrutiny. This thread is Exhibit A.
It seems to me this thread is more an example of why people can't get along. Can't we just accept that other people have different beliefs and leave it at that. -
sleeper
It's definitely based on faith. Nothing in Scientology has been proven. Logic does not dictate their faith.fish82;1151735 wrote:LOL...it has its roots in basic scientific and psychological principles. It's "based on faith" about as much as the writings of Sigmund Freud.
They are the same. How does that feel? -
sleeper
We absolutely can. Provided those with their own beliefs stay out of the lives of those who are belief neutral. Until Christianity is out of the US governments policy decisions, there will always be relentless attacks on its credibility.FatHobbit;1151736 wrote:K. I'll check back in a couple of days and see if you've made any progress.
It seems to me this thread is more an example of why people can't get along. Can't we just accept that other people have different beliefs and leave it at that. -
fish82
LOL...great I guess, considering that you're just flinging shit against the wall to mask your lack of understanding of Scientology. Had you worked in Dianetics and some other texts on any given weekend where you're reading 100 books, you'd know that all the theraputic concepts are fully based on the established psychological concepts of Freud and other prominent psychologists over the years.sleeper;1151740 wrote:It's definitely based on faith. Nothing in Scientology has been proven. Logic does not dictate their faith.
They are the same. How does that feel?
So, if your question pertains to how it feels watching you yet again show how grossly uninformed you are, then I guess I'd have to say "pretty good." -
FatHobbit
You are pushing your beliefs on them just as hard as they are pushing theirs on yours.sleeper;1151741 wrote:We absolutely can. Provided those with their own beliefs stay out of the lives of those who are belief neutral. Until Christianity is out of the US governments policy decisions, there will always be relentless attacks on its credibility. -
sleeper
What beliefs are those?FatHobbit;1151756 wrote:You are pushing your beliefs on them just as hard as they are pushing theirs on yours. -
sleeper
So they have evidence than Xenu killed everyone in a nuclear volcano? Interesting. I'd like to see your evidence. No? Then its faith based.fish82;1151754 wrote:LOL...great I guess, considering that you're just flinging shit against the wall to mask your lack of understanding of Scientology. Had you worked in Dianetics and some other texts on any given weekend where you're reading 100 books, you'd know that all the theraputic concepts are fully based on the established psychological concepts of Freud and other prominent psychologists over the years.
So, if your question pertains to how it feels watching you yet again show how grossly uninformed you are, then I guess I'd have to say "pretty good."
And who said I read 100 books in a weekend? Talk about flinging shit. -
fish82
If Xenu was the basis (hence, "faith based") for the "religion," then you'd have a point. He/She isn't, so you don't. It sounds like you're equating Xenu with a god/jesus figure, which would be patently incorrect.sleeper;1151764 wrote:So they have evidence than Xenu killed everyone in a nuclear volcano? Interesting. I'd like to see your evidence. No? Then its faith based.
And who said I read 100 books in a weekend? Talk about flinging ****.[/QUOTE]
I've read about 400 or so books. I was just giving you the benefit of the doubt.sleeper;1151552 wrote: I've probably read more books in one weekend than you have in your entire life.