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Notre Dame Football 2010.......The Brian Kelly Era Begins

  • rock_knutne
    Pick6 wrote:fair enough. I guarantee if the steelers would have won 5 nfl championships some of the fans like rock and al would be pounding their chest and say that it mattered. Also note that when the browns won the aafc championships, nobody in the nfl would play them.
    Wrong! I would never try to compare an NFL title to a Super Bowl, the two are not even close. Good for Cleveland and those titles, that's the way it worked back then but the Super Bowl is MUCH harder to win..........there's more teams and the talent is undoubtedly better in the Super Bowl era, plus the salary cap makes it even more difficult today. You should be proud of those titles but don't try to compare them to six Lombardi Trophies because they don't even come close!
  • rock_knutne
    karen lotz wrote: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=5062143

    Not a bad read about Kelly changing attitudes and getting them to buy into his way of doing things.

    Good read!
  • Pick6
    rock_knutne wrote:
    Pick6 wrote:fair enough. I guarantee if the steelers would have won 5 nfl championships some of the fans like rock and al would be pounding their chest and say that it mattered. Also note that when the browns won the aafc championships, nobody in the nfl would play them.
    Wrong! I would never try to compare an NFL title to a Super Bowl, the two are not even close. Good for Cleveland and those titles, that's the way it worked back then but the Super Bowl is MUCH harder to win..........there's more teams and the talent is undoubtedly better in the Super Bowl era, plus the salary cap makes it even more difficult today. You should be proud of those titles but don't try to compare them to six Lombardi Trophies because they don't even come close!
    blah blah blah..i'll just respond because i like to argue with you. If you want it that way, then notre dame has 0 championships. Because anything before the bcs was a joke because the champion was selected, instead of actually playing in a championship game. Plus, todays talent is much better than what notre dame was playing in the 30s.
  • Pick6
    btw ewok..
    this is exactly what i meant about the double standard. rock claims that nfl championships of that time are worthless, yet somehow the ncaa championships will still be equivalent or even greater than what they are today.

    btw: i really think a championship= a championship no matter what time period...i was just using rock's logic to prove how stupid he is.
  • Mr Pat
    Pick6 wrote:
    rock_knutne wrote:
    Pick6 wrote:fair enough. I guarantee if the steelers would have won 5 nfl championships some of the fans like rock and al would be pounding their chest and say that it mattered. Also note that when the browns won the aafc championships, nobody in the nfl would play them.
    Wrong! I would never try to compare an NFL title to a Super Bowl, the two are not even close. Good for Cleveland and those titles, that's the way it worked back then but the Super Bowl is MUCH harder to win..........there's more teams and the talent is undoubtedly better in the Super Bowl era, plus the salary cap makes it even more difficult today. You should be proud of those titles but don't try to compare them to six Lombardi Trophies because they don't even come close!
    blah blah blah..i'll just respond because i like to argue with you. If you want it that way, then notre dame has 0 championships. Because anything before the bcs was a joke because the champion was selected, instead of actually playing in a championship game. Plus, todays talent is much better than what notre dame was playing in the 30s.
    The 30's is a far cry from 1989... And actually if you want to put your way, there has never been an actual NCAA champion, because the teams are selected by people and computers as to who plays. Nevermind in 1989 ND's last championship it was against the #1 and #2 team.
  • killer_ewok
    Pick6 wrote: btw ewok..
    this is exactly what i meant about the double standard. rock claims that nfl championships of that time are worthless, yet somehow the ncaa championships will still be equivalent or even greater than what they are today.

    btw: i really think a championship= a championship no matter what time period...i was just using rock's logic to prove how stupid he is.
    And I think that is all that anyone can really ask for.....CONSISTENCY. People can't have it both ways. Whether they're an ND or OSU fan or a Steelers or Browns fan.
  • Pick6
    Mr Pat wrote:
    Pick6 wrote:
    rock_knutne wrote:
    Pick6 wrote:fair enough. I guarantee if the steelers would have won 5 nfl championships some of the fans like rock and al would be pounding their chest and say that it mattered. Also note that when the browns won the aafc championships, nobody in the nfl would play them.
    Wrong! I would never try to compare an NFL title to a Super Bowl, the two are not even close. Good for Cleveland and those titles, that's the way it worked back then but the Super Bowl is MUCH harder to win..........there's more teams and the talent is undoubtedly better in the Super Bowl era, plus the salary cap makes it even more difficult today. You should be proud of those titles but don't try to compare them to six Lombardi Trophies because they don't even come close!
    blah blah blah..i'll just respond because i like to argue with you. If you want it that way, then notre dame has 0 championships. Because anything before the bcs was a joke because the champion was selected, instead of actually playing in a championship game. Plus, todays talent is much better than what notre dame was playing in the 30s.
    The 30's is a far cry from 1989... And actually if you want to put your way, there has never been an actual NCAA champion, because the teams are selected by people and computers as to who plays. Nevermind in 1989 ND's last championship it was against the #1 and #2 team.
    like i said, thats not really my opinion, just using rocks logic. i think all of notre dames championships= championships
  • Mr Pat
    Fair enough, good sir!
  • rock_knutne
    Pick6 wrote: btw ewok..
    this is exactly what i meant about the double standard. rock claims that nfl championships of that time are worthless, yet somehow the ncaa championships will still be equivalent or even greater than what they are today.

    btw: i really think a championship= a championship no matter what time period...i was just using rock's logic to prove how stupid he is.
    Where did I post that? Speaking of someone who's stupid, you obviously struggle with reading comprehension. I love it when people like you make shit up or put words in to someone's mouth to support your argument, that's STUPID.

    Worthless, no but those titles are not the equal. That's how it was back then and good for Cleveland, but there's NO WAY in hell that an NFL title can be compared to a Super Bowl, no way!
  • rock_knutne
    Pick6 wrote: blah blah blah..i'll just respond because i like to argue with you. If you want it that way, then notre dame has 0 championships. Because anything before the bcs was a joke because the champion was selected, instead of actually playing in a championship game. Plus, todays talent is much better than what notre dame was playing in the 30s.
    Your logic can be seen as flawed too. Wasn't there a split title several years ago with USC finishing #1 in the final poll yet they didn't win the BCS title game?
  • Pick6
    rock_knutne wrote:
    Pick6 wrote: blah blah blah..i'll just respond because i like to argue with you. If you want it that way, then notre dame has 0 championships. Because anything before the bcs was a joke because the champion was selected, instead of actually playing in a championship game. Plus, todays talent is much better than what notre dame was playing in the 30s.
    Your logic can be seen as flawed too. Wasn't there a split title several years ago with USC finishing #1 in the final poll yet they didn't win the BCS title game?
    my opinion is the only way to really find a "true" champion is by having a playoff. I said that just to use your logic of how anything pre super bowl era is no where near equivalent to the super bowl era. Which, imo, it is equal.
  • CinciX12
    I'm not sure what the ESPN article did more for me, piss me off more at Charlie Weis or be excited for Brian Kelly?

    I'll go with be excited for Brian Kelly.
  • rock_knutne
    vball10set wrote: Pick6--it's so easy,isn't it ?? :D
    Being a stupid asshole? You would know.
  • rock_knutne
    Kelly changing the culture at ND, attention to detail is huge with him.

    http://irish.nbcsports.com/2010/04/kelly-narrative-taking-shape.html.php
  • karen lotz
    I'm curious to see what vball and pick6 have to contribute to this thread.

    Notre Dame Football 2010.

    Discuss or GTFO
  • vball10set
    rock_knutne wrote:
    vball10set wrote: Pick6--it's so easy,isn't it ?? :D
    Being a stupid asshole? You would know.
    stalker...btw,Crusaderspeak ?

    Lotz,I tried to compliment Kelly and his staff,but to no avail--sorry
  • karen lotz
    Kelly said today that both Crist and Rudolph will play in the Blue-Gold game. Crist will obviously be withheld from contact, but it is good to see that he has progressed far enough in his rehab that he can participate.

    Kickoff is set for this Saturday at 1:30. und.com will stream the game live.
  • steel_curtain
    Got another commitment today Mathias Farley, CN from NC, 6'1 190, has some pretty good offers and last year was his first one playing football, a ton of upside.
  • september63
    How are the ND guys faring in the 2010 NFL draft?
  • rock_knutne
    september63 wrote: How are the ND guys faring in the 2010 NFL draft?
    Translation: "Look at me, I'm a five year old who craves attention."
  • karen lotz
    september63 wrote: How are the ND guys faring in the 2010 NFL draft?
    I remember my first beer.
  • killer_ewok
    september63 wrote: How are the ND guys faring in the 2010 NFL draft?
    Not bad. Clausen got drafted into a good situation in Carolina and Tate is part of arguably the most impressive draft by a team (Seattle) thus far.
  • karen lotz
    I agree killer. Both of them might be a little disappointed with where they were taken in the draft pick wise, but they should both be pretty pleased with the teams that took them. Carolina has one of the best running games in the league, a better than average defense, and a established go to receiver in Steve Smith.
  • rock_knutne
    rock_knutne wrote:
    september63 wrote: How are the ND guys faring in the 2010 NFL draft?
    Translation: "Look at me, I'm a five year old who craves attention."

    BTW, how are the OSU guys faring in the 2010 NFL draft?
  • karen lotz
    http://all-access.cbssports.com/player.html?code=nd