B1G Championship Game: (10) Michigan State 34, (2) Ohio State 24

• firestonefan

  

  Buckeyes 29
  Spartans 20
• HitsRus

  

  To me, this is an obvious shootout..... Another close one with 75+ being scored. I haven't seen the over/under, but I figure it's gotta be high.
• dlazz

  HitsRus;1546775 wrote: I haven't seen the over/under, but I figure it's gotta be high.

  Nope
  
  49.5
• WebFire

  HitsRus;1546775 wrote:To me, this is an obvious shootout..... Another close one with 75+ being scored. I haven't seen the over/under, but I figure it's gotta be high.

  MSU won't get into a shootout. I will either be close and low scoring, or an OSU blowout.
• Tiernan

  No shoot out and no blow out. 4 Qtrs of old style slobber knock football with the toughest team left standing at the end...and Hyde gives us the advantage to be that team.
• wildcats20

  

  Tiernan;1546821 wrote:No shoot out and no blow out. 4 Qtrs of old style slobber knock football with the toughest team left standing at the end...and Hyde gives us the advantage to be that team.

  I agree with this. But I have a feeling(maybe it's just gas) that OSU pulls away in the 4th.
• centralbucksfan

  WebFire;1546802 wrote:MSU won't get into a shootout. I will either be close and low scoring, or an OSU blowout.

  What is low scoring to you? I can see a score like 24-17 possibly. I think that is about as low as it will be. As good as MSU defense is, I just can't see them holding this OSU offense down enough to win this game. That is, unless OSU beats themselves with turnovers. OSU is only +2 on season on turnovers while MSU is +12 I believe. So that could be big in this game. I also can't imagine this OSU defense getting ripped again as they did vs UM. I expect them to come out with a chip on their shoulder this week. The MSU offense is mediocre at best. I think the game will be close and I see OSU pulling away late for a 10+pt win. Something in area of 27-17, 34-17 maybe.
• Rotinaj

  

  MSU has a shit O and an amazing D. OSU is the exact opposite. It will come down to who's shit side of the ball plays better and I'm just not going to bet against UM. I think OSU wins like 31-27.
• rrfan

  

  Just win Buckeyes!! Close or a blow out I don't care just win!
• Me?

  

  I'm thinking something like 42-17, 42-21, 38-17...something like that. A comfortable Ohio State win. Their defense is good, but they've racked up impressive numbers against offenses that aren't even in the same stratosphere as us. As long as we don't turn the ball over, it shouldn't be that close.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Me?;1546846 wrote:I'm thinking something like 42-17, 42-21, 38-17...something like that. A comfortable Ohio State win. Their defense is good, but they've racked up impressive numbers against offenses that aren't even in the same stratosphere as us. As long as we don't turn the ball over, it shouldn't be that close.

  Dude, if LeBron was playing for OSU, this would be out of hand!!!!!
• Me?

  

  OSU doesn't have a shitty D by the way, it's not great either but it's not horrible. We have a really good run defense. Lead the country in sacks. Our secondary isn't great, but they can turn you over. Not as bad as we looked against Michigan. I've been saying it Saturday, we didn't get torched by Michigan because we have a bad defense, we got torched because Gardener played REALLY well and their coaches dialed up plays that they haven't dialed up all year.
• Me?

  

  ernest_t_bass;1546847 wrote:Dude, if LeBron was playing for OSU, this would be out of hand!!!!!

  Clearly.
• Automatik

  

  I blame most of our defensive issues on the coaches and scheme. Aside from Pitt Brown, I believe the talent is there.
• Me?

  

  Automatik;1546850 wrote:I blame most of our defensive issues on the coaches and scheme. Aside from Pitt Brown, I believe the talent is there.

  Agreed. Injuries play a pretty big role too. Pitt Brown is garbage.
• Rotinaj

  

  Me?;1546848 wrote:OSU doesn't have a shitty D by the way, it's not great either but it's not horrible. We have a really good run defense. Lead the country in sacks. Our secondary isn't great, but they can turn you over. Not as bad as we looked against Michigan. I've been saying it Saturday, we didn't get torched by Michigan because we have a bad defense, we got torched because Gardener played REALLY well and their coaches dialed up plays that they haven't dialed up all year.

  I guess shit probably wasn't the right word but if MSU is driving in the 4th for the win I wouldn't have much faith in the D to make the stop they need.
• Me?

  

  If we make it to that point, then anything can happen. I agree, I won't be thrilled about our defense having to win us the game.
  
  Any given Saturday. I just don't see them slowing down our offense enough to have that chance.
• Fly4Fun

  

  Me?;1546855 wrote:If we make it to that point, then anything can happen. I agree, I won't be thrilled about our defense having to win us the game.
  
  Any given Saturday. I just don't see them slowing down our offense enough to have that chance.

  Eh, to be fair our D has stepped up to end games before. NW our D made a play late to seal it. And against UM they waited till the last play, but they got the INT to seal it (would have loved an INT on the drive and not having to drag it out to the 2 pt conversion).
  
  Our defense has been downright bad a few times this year, but they have also shown they can play well. Hopefully our D takes a step in the right direction against MSU.
• Me?

  

  Agreed. I'm not saying they couldn't get it done, but it definitely wouldn't be the most comfortable scenario.
• Tiernan

  I keep saying it over and over, pass rush has to be the best it's been all season, Cook will panic and push his throws if he's pressured. But if he gets the time Gardner was getting, he can make plays from the pocket. Tackling hadn't been an issue until last Sat, but we can't have another day like that.
• dlazz

  35-14 OSU
• lhslep134

  

  Fickell's lack of ability to make adjustments is deeply troubling. I'll give Borges credit for the misdirection scheming in the 1st half, but Fickell HAS to adjust to it in the second half. They kept killing us with it. When one of Michigan's biggest, if not the biggest, plays of the game (the pass to Toussaint to set up the TD) is the same exact misdirection you got snakebitten by the 1st half, then that's completely on the coordinator.
• Automatik

  

  lhslep134;1546901 wrote:Fickell's lack of ability to make adjustments is deeply troubling.

  This!! Fucking this!!!
• lhslep134

  

  Automatik;1546903 wrote:This!! Fucking this!!!

  I wonder if Urban has coach's meetings without Fickell to scheme ways to get rid of him nicely.
• Tiernan

  And this is puzzling because as much as I hated "Jimmy the Liar" his coaching staffs did seem to have an ability to make quality adjustments at halftime...and Fickell was a major part of those staffs.