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B1G Championship Game: (10) Michigan State 34, (2) Ohio State 24

  • sleeper
    queencitybuckeye;1550905 wrote:Meaningless. "Pitt" Brown was a 5*, and coaching isn't the reason he isn't playing like one. The whole 5* 4* stuff is a joke.
    Agreed. Troy Smith was a 3*.
  • queencitybuckeye
    sleeper;1550910 wrote:Agreed. Troy Smith was a 3*.
    As are the majority of D1 rosters, even at elite schools.
  • Tiernan
    sleeper;1550910 wrote:Agreed. Troy Smith was a 3*.

    Exactly...and he was overated.
  • centralbucksfan
    queencitybuckeye;1550905 wrote:Meaningless. "Pitt" Brown was a 5*, and coaching isn't the reason he isn't playing like one. The whole 5* 4* stuff is a joke.
    I don't disagree, the rating can be off. That being said, Alabama has dominated recruiting for the past few years and currenlty have the top program in the country. So they in fact, do mean something. And no matter what star rating a player has, the coaches still have to develop these players as well.
  • queencitybuckeye
    centralbucksfan;1550917 wrote:I don't disagree, the rating can be off. That being said, Alabama has dominated recruiting for the past few years and currenlty have the top program in the country. So they in fact, do mean something. And no matter what star rating a player has, the coaches still have to develop these players as well.
    It means nothing of the sort. Alabama "dominated recruiting" by getting the most players who can play at the top level. OTOH, they also have as many or more 5* and 4* guys who can't play a lick.

    These services are a joke, meant to entertain people who can't actually watch games and determine who the football players are.
  • centralbucksfan
    queencitybuckeye;1550921 wrote:It means nothing of the sort. Alabama "dominated recruiting" by getting the most players who can play at the top level. OTOH, they also have as many or more 5* and 4* guys who can't play a lick.

    These services are a joke, meant to entertain people who can't actually watch games and determine who the football players are.
    No offense, but ur wrong. If you look at the top programs year in and year out, they are also the top programs in terms of recruting as well. That is a fact. Those ratings do mean smoething. No, they are not always right on the money with every player obviously. But those rankings do in fact mean something.
  • Heretic
    queencitybuckeye;1550921 wrote:It means nothing of the sort. Alabama "dominated recruiting" by getting the most players who can play at the top level. OTOH, they also have as many or more 5* and 4* guys who can't play a lick.

    These services are a joke, meant to entertain people who can't actually watch games and determine who the football players are.
    Yeah, if you simply look at player star ratings and say that a team is loaded with great players because of that, you also must be utterly shocked when you see a first-round NFL pick bomb. Determining what great players at one level will continue being great at the next is always going to be a very inexact science.
  • sleeper
    queencitybuckeye;1550921 wrote:It means nothing of the sort. Alabama "dominated recruiting" by getting the most players who can play at the top level. OTOH, they also have as many or more 5* and 4* guys who can't play a lick.

    These services are a joke, meant to entertain people who can't actually watch games and determine who the football players are.
    Because people have time to watch thousand's of high school football games and determine what 18 year old is better than the other? It's a good guess at best.
  • Tiernan
    Remember the 5* LB kid from NEO (D'antonio?) that was the next Speilman, Butkus combined? Kid never played a single down for OSU after numerous practice injuries. He didn't play in the all-star game at Crew stadium and another LB named AJ Hawk took his place and everybody was like this kid is too smallish to play big time LB.
  • Automatik
    I know who you're talking about, although his name slips my mind. The kid couldn't catch a break, one devastating injury after another.
  • se-alum
    Automatik;1550967 wrote:I know who you're talking about, although his name slips my mind. The kid couldn't catch a break, one devastating injury after another.
    Mike D'Andrea?
  • Heretic
    Automatik;1550967 wrote:I know who you're talking about, although his name slips my mind. The kid couldn't catch a break, one devastating injury after another.
    D'Andrea or something like that? Can't remember the exact name, but I think that's at least close.
  • Con_Alma
    se-alum;1550973 wrote:Mike D'Andrea?

    This is Mike's company.

    http://www.t3-p.com/
  • Tiernan
    yeah D'Andrea thats the guy. Point is the star system doesnt always guarantee PT.
  • sleeper
    Tiernan;1551022 wrote:yeah D'Andrea thats the guy. Point is the star system doesnt always guarantee PT.
    I'm sure the correlation is high though. I'd love to see the analysis of star rating in high school to $M(adjusted) salary in the NFL.