B1G Championship Game: (10) Michigan State 34, (2) Ohio State 24

• believer

  

  Kenny G would have led the Buckeyes to the promised land. :RpS_w00t:
• LJ

  

  believer;1550153 wrote:Kenny G would have led the Buckeyes to the promised land. :RpS_w00t:

  Since when is the Outback bowl "the promised land"?
• Tiernan

  Watta ya talkin about? I thought the Orange is a done deal.
• believer

  

  LJ;1550156 wrote:Since when is the Outback bowl "the promised land"?

  Just the MSU game. Bejeebers you guys are sensitive. lol
• Pick6

  

  Tiernan;1550157 wrote:Watta ya talkin about? I thought the Orange is a done deal.

  the Beef O' Brady's is the most likely destination.
• wes_mantooth

  

  Pick6;1550159 wrote:the Beef O' Brady's is the most likely destination.

  Their wings are excellent
• vball10set

  wes_mantooth;1550162 wrote:Their wings are excellent

  
  Never had 'em, please, tell me more.
• centralbucksfan

  You people calling for Kenny G are beyond ridiculous! The kid is a quality backup QB. He did well against SHIT teams. He never proved himself against any quality team over 4yrs to make this even a remotely competitive conversation. Its actually quite comical watching everyone blame Fickel, Miller, or whomever for this loss. The loss is on the team. And as has been mentioned, the MAIN issue with this team, the weakness, is on DEFENSE. Is it youth? Is it coaching? Is it the defensive philosophy? Is it lack of depth? Well, its probably a combination of all of them. I am confident Meyer will address these in the off season.
• like_that

  

  Anyone remember when LJ gave S&L shit, because S&L was being very critical of OSU's defense after the Illinois game?
• believer

  

  centralbucksfan;1550172 wrote:You people calling for Kenny G are beyond ridiculous! The kid is a quality backup QB. He did well against SHIT teams. He never proved himself against any quality team over 4yrs to make this even a remotely competitive conversation. Its actually quite comical watching everyone blame Fickel, Miller, or whomever for this loss. The loss is on the team. And as has been mentioned, the MAIN issue with this team, the weakness, is on DEFENSE. Is it youth? Is it coaching? Is it the defensive philosophy? Is it lack of depth? Well, its probably a combination of all of them. I am confident Meyer will address these in the off season.

  Really? You missed see the sarcasm? Buckeye fans are some of the most overly-sensitive and defensive fans in college football.
  

  like_that;1550175 wrote:Anyone remember when LJ gave S&L shit, because S&L was being very critical of OSU's defense after the Illinois game?

  The sensitivity is as Fickell as the wind.
• centralbucksfan

  Tiernan;1550115 wrote:Long long day and night over and back and then I open the Cols Dogpatch and can't find one fkn mention of the key 4th & 1 call or any conjecture of why someone decided to make the no. 1 RB in the league (nation?) into a WR and blocking FB for 3 Qtrs?!? Not only did our secondary get exposed last night but so did Urbie. MSU is a great defense but Hyde consistently was getting 4 - 6 yds every time he touched the ball. And the OSU brain trust decides to only give it to him 18 times? WTF!?! This one is on Meyer in my book.

  That was a big play ,no doubt. And I would have liked to have seen Hyde get the ball more as well. But when you are down 17...the game plan obviously changes. When you play from behind most of game, late in game...that takes a player like Hyde out of the game.
  Secondary has been getting exposed all season long. We also didn't get consistent pressure on the QB. And gave up our usual 1/2 big plays as well.
• Pick6

  

  centralbucksfan;1550177 wrote:That was a big play ,no doubt. And I would have liked to have seen Hyde get the ball more as well. But when you are down 17...the game plan obviously changes. When you play from behind most of game, late in game...that takes a player like Hyde out of the game.

  The Buckeyes were down 3 at the time of the 4th down play call. Being down 3 with what...5 something left doesn't take a player out of the game. Meyer and Herman (genius my ass) had plenty of time to get Hyde involved more. Let's not forget we were leading 24-17 before the offense going cold and letting MSU score 17 straight points for the second time in the game.
• believer

  

  centralbucksfan;1550177 wrote:When you play from behind most of game, late in game...that takes a player like Hyde out of the game.

  Not on 3rd and 3 and 4th and 1 with just a few minutes to go in the game. Those 2 bonehead play calls made the difference despite the ineptitude of the OSU defensive secondary.
  
  Hyde was averaging over 6 yards a carry at that point. Dumbest calls made by the Meyer coaching staff all season.
• centralbucksfan

  Pick6;1550179 wrote:The Buckeyes were down 3 at the time of the 4th down play call. Being down 3 with what...5 something left doesn't take a player out of the game. Meyer and Herman (genius my ass) had plenty of time to get Hyde involved more. Let's not forget we were leading 24-17 before the offense going cold and letting MSU score 17 straight points for the second time in the game.

  I was talking about him not getting more than 18 carries numbnuts. Not defending that play. I didn't like it either. But again, offense wasn't, isnt' an issue. Score 24 against MSU, and their sub par offense...OSU should have won the game.
• Automatik

  

  The playcalling was suspect, but I put minimal blame on the offense.
  
  Watching Conner Cook look like an all American was the worst.
• sleeper

  

  Well MSU played a great game. It just goes to show you how tough the B1G is in general and that MSU is probably the best team in the country.
  
  As far as OSU goes, the defense is atrocious and everyone that runs the defense should be fired immediately(even if they know what the viper position is). The offensive call to run Braxton was also a terrible idea; GIVE IT TO MUTHA FUCKING HYDE. I don't care if MSU puts 11 guys in the box and Carlos runs right at him, he will get the 1st down.
  
  Anyways, Ohio State will still go to a BCS bowl and we better win it. I think MSU beats the fuck out of Stanford and the B1G has a winning record this year in bowl games.
• believer

  

  Boneheaded play calling late in the game and a swiss cheez defensive secondary pretty much sums it up.
• LJ

  

  like_that;1550175 wrote:Anyone remember when LJ gave S&L shit, because S&L was being very critical of OSU's defense after the Illinois game?

  Do you remember WHY? Because OMG THIS DEFENSE SUCKS is not constructive
• centralbucksfan

  Automatik;1550186 wrote:The playcalling was suspect, but I put minimal blame on the offense.
  
  Watching Conner Cook look like an all American was the worst.

  Exactly. I find it comical for anyone to blame this offense. They didn't throw the ball particularly well. But rushed for close to 300yds on the game against a very good defense. Who woulda guessed that many rushing yards? IF someone told me that before the game, I would say OSU wins going away. As suspect as our defense has been, I never imagined them giving up 34 pts to MSU and for Cook to throw for 300 yds. Not unless OSU turned the ball over. Which they didn't.
• Automatik

  

  Looking forward to MSU/Stanford. Should be a battle.
• WebFire

  sleeper;1550190 wrote:Well MSU played a great game. It just goes to show you how tough the B1G is in general and that MSU is probably the best team in the country.

  LOL. I always look forward to your posts.
• Tiernan

  We KNEW our Defense was weak and Meyer knows it too so the Offense had to win the game and we were in position to win the game at the moment of the horrible 4th & 1 call. That call pure and simple was coaches trying to get too cute and make a call they thought the guys on the other sideline would never suspect. Everyone in that fkn stadium and the millions watching on TV thought Hyde would get the ball (aaaaand he should have) but Meyer in his desire to look like a genius screwed the pooch. First by not playing Hall and secondly for this bonehead mistake.
• centralbucksfan

  Tiernan;1550234 wrote:We KNEW our Defense was weak and Meyer knows it too so the Offense had to win the game and we were in position to win the game at the moment of the horrible 4th & 1 call. That call pure and simple was coaches trying to get too cute and make a call they thought the guys on the other sideline would never suspect. Everyone in that fkn stadium and the millions watching on TV thought Hyde would get the ball (aaaaand he should have) but Meyer in his desire to look like a genius screwed the pooch. First by not playing Hall and secondly for this bonehead mistake.

  And Meyer took full responsibility for that call....
  http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20131208/ohio-state-urban-meyer-big-ten-title/?eref=sihp
  
  
  BTW, if Heuerman does his job on the block...this is not even a discussion. He wiffed and was beaten badly. Good call, bad call...players have to execute as well.
• Tiernan

  Whether he took responsibility is a moot point...because as the HC he is responsible! And I maintain he was trying to outsmart Dantonio instead of going for the almost sure thing. I hope to hell is does "haunt" you Urbie because you lost the game right there.
• SportsAndLady

  

  LJ;1550192 wrote:Do you remember WHY? Because OMG THIS DEFENSE SUCKS is not constructive

  Lol so I have to write a novel on why the defense sucks..I can't just say, on a message board, our defense sucks?
  
  I have news for you LJ...our defense sucks.