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(3) Ohio State 42, Michigan 41

  • Automatik
    Tiernan;1543921 wrote:Travesty of ESPN predjudice that Hyde isnt mentioned for the Walker Award. They will give it to Johnny Fuckup no matter what the actual voting numbers are.

    LOL.
  • rrfan
    Tiernan;1543921 wrote:Travesty of ESPN predjudice that Hyde isnt mentioned for the Walker Award. They will give it to Johnny Fuckup no matter what the actual voting numbers are.
    For the record...Doak Walker is for best RB. So Johnny Football will not get that.
  • vball10set
    se-alum;1543884 wrote:
    Looks like plenty of people showed up.
    Sure does, and it looks like they had a blast!


    http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2013/11/29546/this-time-for-real-videos-vines-and-photos-from-mirror-lake-jump-2013#more
  • sleeper
    rrfan;1543903 wrote:And not mentioned for the Doak Walker Award!
    This makes zero sense to me. Who's a better RB in college football? I can't think of anyone.
  • rrfan
    sleeper;1543941 wrote:This makes zero sense to me. Who's a better RB in college football? I can't think of anyone.
    I blame Mark May...it has to be his fault.
  • WebFire
    sleeper;1543941 wrote:This makes zero sense to me. Who's a better RB in college football? I can't think of anyone.
    Suspension really hurt him. There are plenty of players with better numbers right now.
  • rrfan
    WebFire;1543956 wrote:Suspension really hurt him. There are plenty of players with better numbers right now.
    FSU better not have a QB in the running for the Heisman then.
  • WebFire
    rrfan;1543976 wrote:FSU better not have a QB in the running for the Heisman then.
    ???
  • rrfan
    WebFire;1543981 wrote:???
    What part of that do you not understand. FSU QB is being investigated for far worse. What is good for the goose...
  • WebFire
    rrfan;1543991 wrote:What part of that do you not understand. FSU QB is being investigated for far worse. What is good for the goose...
    Hyde was suspended. Winston has not been.

    And that's not even my point. My point was that Hyde's numbers are lower because he missed games. Otherwise he'd be a front runner for the award.
  • Fly4Fun
    rrfan;1543991 wrote:What part of that do you not understand. FSU QB is being investigated for far worse. What is good for the goose...
    Not that I enjoy defending a Michigan fan... but Webfire's post wasn't about the misconduct but the fact that he missed games. Winston hasn't missed games yet.

    However, if he is charged before the votes go out I don't see any way he would be a Heisman winner. It would just look too bad for it if he was eventually convicted.
  • wildcats20
    Fly4Fun;1543997 wrote:Not that I enjoy defending a Michigan fan... but Webfire's post wasn't about the misconduct but the fact that he missed games. Winston hasn't missed games yet.

    However, if he is charged before the votes go out I don't see any way he would be a Heisman winner. It would just look too bad for it if he was eventually convicted.
    If he is charged, he will be kicked off the team. He won't be a college football player any longer.
  • Fly4Fun
    WebFire;1543996 wrote:Hyde was suspended. Winston has not been.

    And that's not even my point. My point was that Hyde's numbers are lower because he missed games. Otherwise he'd be a front runner for the award.
    But to this point, shoudl it really matter that he missed a few games? Even you just said what he has done has been amazing (not those words, but saying e'd be a front runner is basically saying as much). The Heisman isn't for the most productive (just total numbers) college football player but the most outstanding. He's been pretty damn outstanding in my opinion.
  • Fly4Fun
    wildcats20;1543999 wrote:If he is charged, he will be kicked off the team. He won't be a college football player any longer.
    Most likely but not guaranteed. FSU can under special circumstances not kick him off the team. It would look absolutely awful for FSU, but you never know.
  • wildcats20
    Fly4Fun;1544001 wrote:Most likely but not guaranteed. FSU can under special circumstances not kick him off the team. It would look absolutely awful for FSU, but you never know.
    True, I forgot they had that little provision.

    Aka allows star athletes to remain on the team.
  • rrfan
    Fly4Fun;1544001 wrote:Most likely but not guaranteed. FSU can under special circumstances not kick him off the team. It would look absolutely awful for FSU, but you never know.
    Hyde got suspended with out being charged with anything...FSU will not do anything unless they have to. They will hold off charges until football is over.
  • WebFire
    Fly4Fun;1544000 wrote:But to this point, shoudl it really matter that he missed a few games? Even you just said what he has done has been amazing (not those words, but saying e'd be a front runner is basically saying as much). The Heisman isn't for the most productive (just total numbers) college football player but the most outstanding. He's been pretty damn outstanding in my opinion.
    You talking Heisman or Doak Walker? He's been good, but not Heisman good.
  • se-alum
    WebFire;1544013 wrote:You talking Heisman or Doak Walker? He's been good, but not Heisman good.
    He would be Heisman good if he hadn't missed those 3 games. Look at what Jordan Hall did against those teams, and imagine what Hyde would've done. He would likely be around 1600 yards on the season with two games left. All for not though, because of a dumb decision.
  • se-alum
    Also, Hyde was basically out for 4 games. Got only 5 carries in his first game back.
  • vball10set
    se-alum;1544050 wrote:He would be Heisman good if he hadn't missed those 3 games. Look at what Jordan Hall did against those teams, and imagine what Hyde would've done. He would likely be around 1600 yards on the season with two games left. All for not though, because of a dumb decision.
    Without a doubt--he would of at the very least been invited to NYC.
  • rip34
    Didn't see this article linked. Thought it was an interesting take that I am sure many Buckeyes fans can attest to with the ESPN handling of the Hyde suspension at the beginning of the year.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/college-football/story/travis-why-is-fsu-getting-free-pass-on-winston-that-meyer-would-not-112613
  • Fly4Fun
    rip34;1544120 wrote:Didn't see this article linked. Thought it was an interesting take that I am sure many Buckeyes fans can attest to with the ESPN handling of the Hyde suspension at the beginning of the year.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/college-football/story/travis-why-is-fsu-getting-free-pass-on-winston-that-meyer-would-not-112613
    That article deserves it's own thread. Thanks for linking it.
  • trep14
    Anyone ever been up to the big house for a game as an osu fan? Got tickets and am planning on going up and naturally wear osu gear. Is there usually problems with getting stuff thrown at you or anything?
  • dlazz
    Line on the OSU game is now -16
  • Azubuike24
    My neighbor just put $2250 each on OSU -15 and Auburn +10.5.

    He's thinking Urban will keep the foot on the pedal all 60 minutes, regardless.