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Herron Out For Nebraska, Posey Five Extra Games

  • thedynasty1998
    Pick6;930715 wrote:I am not a member of the union but work for a union company. I get paid the exact same amount as the union workers in my company. However, instead of getting it in benefits, I get it in cash. So I make $36/hr...while union members make $25/26 an hour. SMFH. And my union fees still get paid because I do work in multiple districts in the state and even in WV.
    I don't think that is legal.
  • Pick6
    thedynasty1998;930721 wrote:I don't think that is legal.
    technically its not, I've even been caught by a union rep. Not a big deal, though.

    Im only a summer worker and am probably done with it for good, maybe one more summer. And you cant just join the labor union, you have to do an apprenticeship first, so for 6 months you make something like 60% regular rate. Why would I do that?
  • LJ
    thedynasty1998;930721 wrote:I don't think that is legal.
    The Federal government does it, so why can't a private company?
  • karen lotz
    Are car wash employees union?
  • thedynasty1998
    LJ;930716 wrote:Where did I say they had to unionize? You are really clueless here. To get commercial contracts, companies will sometimes have to pay the same as the unionized companies do. Sometimes they will have to offer some of the benefits that the unionized companies do. A lot of times, larger companies will just follow many of these guidelines year round in order to stay competitive when bidding.
    You actually may be correct. Honestly I'm not sure, because I know some jobs that are bidder as union jobs even though the employees are not.

    With that said, what Posey was being paid for was shady. I do not feel bad for him for being suspended, and don't think it's defensable.
  • LJ
    Pick6;930724 wrote:technically its not, I've even been caught by a union rep. Not a big deal, though.
    Well yeah, cause their contract must specify they cant lol. The feds don't force you to join the Union, so their employees make all the same wages, yet some pay to be in the Union and some don't LOL
  • thedynasty1998
    Pick6;930724 wrote:technically its not, I've even been caught by a union rep. Not a big deal, though.
    I would imagine that's an NCAA violation. Just saying.
  • LJ
    karen lotz;930726 wrote:Are car wash employees union?
    Was he employed by the parent company or each subsidiary separately?
  • Pick6
    LJ;930728 wrote:Well yeah, cause their contract must specify they cant lol. The feds don't force you to join the Union, so their employees make all the same wages, yet some pay to be in the Union and some don't LOL
    correct.
  • LJ
    thedynasty1998;930729 wrote:I would imagine that's an NCAA violation. Just saying.
    I don't know that violating union contracts is something the NCAA looks into
  • thedynasty1998
    LJ;930728 wrote:Well yeah, cause their contract must specify they cant lol. The feds don't force you to join the Union, so their employees make all the same wages, yet some pay to be in the Union and some don't LOL
    I think certain departments are unionized. My wife works for that state and most people she works with are union. However, she's not, so she's just classified differently.
  • LJ
    thedynasty1998;930734 wrote:I think certain departments are unionized. My wife works for that state and most people she works with are union. However, she's not, so she's just classified differently.
    The DoD agencies are all unionized, but you don't have to join and everyone is classified the same. I used to work for the DoD. They asked me to join the Union, I said "no thanks" that was the end of it. I had the same pay and benefits as the guy who sat next to me that was in the Union
  • Pick6
    karen lotz;930726 wrote:Are car wash employees union?
    once again, not saying nothing wrong happened. Just want to make that clear. However, I did other work for my boss. They owned property..so I mowed and weedeated some, worked parties for them, and yes, even washed their car a time or two ;)
  • thedynasty1998
    LJ;930732 wrote:I don't know that violating union contracts is something the NCAA looks into
    We all know how ridiculous the NCAA is with their rules. I would guarantee the verbiage for Union contracts is included.
  • karen lotz
    LJ;930730 wrote:Was he employed by the parent company or each subsidiary separately?

    Couldn't tell you, was just asking if car wash employees are typically unionized or not.
  • se-alum
    karen lotz;930726 wrote:Are car wash employees union?
    Did he actually work at a car wash? I heard part of his job was washing company trucks, but not necessarily a car wash.
  • LJ
    se-alum;930742 wrote:Did he actually work at a car wash? I heard part of his job was washing company trucks, but not necessarily a car wash.
    This is correct, I believe he also owns one of those self serve car washes or something, but the NCAA only cited Independence from what I see
  • karen lotz
    se-alum;930742 wrote:Did he actually work at a car wash? I heard part of his job was washing company trucks, but not necessarily a car wash.
    Yes.

    Valley Laser Car Wash.
  • LJ
    karen lotz;930746 wrote:Yes.
    Link to NCAA report?
  • thedynasty1998
    se-alum;930742 wrote:Did he actually work at a car wash? I heard part of his job was washing company trucks, but not necessarily a car wash.
    Good point.

    Maybe this booster was smarter than I thought.

    Although my point remains the same.
  • karen lotz
    LJ;930747 wrote:Link to NCAA report?

    It's in the Lantern article that was linked earlier. I don't know if I've seen the NCAA report for this?
  • LJ
    karen lotz;930750 wrote:It's in the Lantern article that was linked earlier. I don't know if I've seen the NCAA report for this?
    All I've found is Independence cited in NCAA snippets and articles that reference the NCAA report. In other words, while he may have worked for both, but it seems there are only "problems" with the excavating company.
  • HitsRus
    The fact that they can't even account for 5 hours at all at this point is shady
    I'm not sure that not being able to account for every single hour is tantamount to being guilty of working with no pay. It just means that they don't have a paper trail to prove it.

    While we debate how much pocket change that Posey got improperly...let's look at some really sad numbers.
    Ohio State has spent $142,000 to Larry James firm for legal counsel and defense for the 15 players involved in tattoo-gate and Bobby G.'s hiring of players allegedly improperly. OSU has also incurred other expenses totalling almost $800,000 since the 'scandal' broke last December. Do you want to know how much improper benefits or trading memoribilia for tattoos involved this totals up to?
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    are you ready?
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    ....$ 8-9000

    and you say the system is not broken.
    and this is typical and occurs all over the country.
    Michigan $600,000 for Rich Rod. Boise $200,000 and counting. Auburn spent $170,000 on Cam Newton alone. Tennessee $300,000 and counting...Alabama, Miami etc etc .
    http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2011/aug/17/uts-legal-fees-continue-to-mount-but-pale-in-to/


    and... while we continue to debate the the change in NCAA scofflaw Posey's pocket, it should be noted that apparently it is not against NCAA rules to drive drunk...not even three times! Notre Dame wide receiver Michael Floyd convicted last spring and wisely(and finally) suspended by coach Brian Kelley was reinstated on the team in early August. He missed the spring and summer workouts.. LOL. Game suspensions...ZERO.http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/14841904/notre-dame-wideout-floyd-charged-with-dui
  • thedynasty1998
    HitsRus;930803 wrote:I'm not sure that not being able to account for every single hour is tantamount to being guilty of working with no pay. It just means that they don't have a paper trail to prove it.

    While we debate how much pocket change that Posey got improperly...let's look at some really sad numbers.
    Ohio State has spent $142,000 to Larry James firm for legal counsel and defense for the 15 players involved in tattoo-gate and Bobby G.'s hiring of players allegedly improperly. OSU has also incurred other expenses totalling almost $800,000 since the 'scandal' broke last December. Do you want to know how much improper benefits or trading memoribilia for tattoos involved this totals up to?
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    are you ready?
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    ....$ 8000

    and you say the system is not broken.
    and this is typical and occurs all over the country.
    Michigan $600,000 for Rich Rod. Boise $200,000 and counting. Auburn spent $170,000 on Cam Newton alone. Tennessee $300,000 and counting...Alabama, Miami etc etc .
    http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2011/aug/17/uts-legal-fees-continue-to-mount-but-pale-in-to/
    I'm assuming $8000 is a typo. You really nailed the oversensatioalized department.
  • HitsRus
    I'm just posting figures. $8000 might be a bit low...let's say $9000...oh heck let's throw in an extra $500 to be sure we're are covered. Does it make a difference?
    http://www.orangepower.com/threads/ohio-state-tattoo-gate-may-cost-tosu-as-many-as-9-players.109057/

    tattoo-gate...$7000.
    Improper benefits...Posey allegedly got $720...the others a few hundred at tops.