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OSU vacates 2010 wins

  • karen lotz
    the_system;824789 wrote:So ESPN is adding in that OSU has also waived the $250,000 fine? (didn't see that in the dispatch article).

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    It's like OSU wants the NCAA to just stomp on their nuts.
    They waived the fine and are paying him $52,000 which is what he would have made in the month of June.
  • LJ
    the_system;824789 wrote:So ESPN is adding in that OSU has also waived the $250,000 fine? (didn't see that in the dispatch article).

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    It's like OSU wants the NCAA to just stomp on their nuts.
    I would put money on it being a legal issue and nothing more
  • karen lotz
    ccfan;824793 wrote:I doubt the fans down south are jumping up & down over a win on paper nor would they have much to brag on, over a W minus key players on the opposing side of the field, had the game been played that way.....I wouldn't.


    Speaking of this...I wonder if that one Arkansas "fan" that joined the site and started trolling prior to the game will be back?
  • norwalk
    I bet a buddy a case of beer on the game last year. He paid and I already drank the beer. Do I have to repay the case of beer + 1 case for a Meeechigan win?
  • FatHobbit
    norwalk;824804 wrote:I bet a buddy a case of beer on the game last year. He paid and I already drank the beer. Do I have to repay the case of beer + 1 case for a Meeechigan win?

    I would just piss into a bucket and give it back to him.
  • Writerbuckeye
    If this holds as the punishment -- and I don't see why it wouldn't, given no allegations of LOIC or failure to monitor -- there will be a lot of media teeth gnashing that will take place. I also look for lots of heads to implode on UM and similar sites. :)
  • OneBuckeye
    the_system;824789 wrote:So ESPN is adding in that OSU has also waived the $250,000 fine? (didn't see that in the dispatch article).

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    It's like OSU wants the NCAA to just stomp on their nuts.
    How can you fine someone who doesn't work for you?
  • Writerbuckeye
    OneBuckeye;824819 wrote:How can you fine someone who doesn't work for you?

    This is true. The player punishments (and proposed punishment for JT) were for this coming season (suspensions for 5 games), not for the season already completed.

    Since Tressel no longer works for OSU, you can't fine him.
  • centralbucksfan
    thedynasty1998;824680 wrote:What a freaking joke. Vacate wins and that is all? Maybe if they would have fired Tressel. But to allow him to retire and pay him, and then try to say you disassociated is as pathetic as Tressel's original presser.

    You are a piece of work sometimes. What more do you expect OSU to do? Who cares HOW Tressel is gone, he is gone and thats what counts. Resign, fire or retire. Its all relative to what happened and thats all that counts. The guy screwed up. We all know that. But after 10yrs of what he gave to OSU, the Columbus community and the state of Ohio, I don't think he deserves to be beheaded in Ohio Stadium like you would want. He has done 100x more good then bad. I doubt he could have personally suffered more than what he has already. And in my book, thats enough. OSU did what they should have done. Now we'll see what the NCAA is going to do.
  • the_system
    Writerbuckeye;824829 wrote:This is true. The player punishments (and proposed punishment for JT) were for this coming season (suspensions for 5 games), not for the season already completed.

    Since Tressel no longer works for OSU, you can't fine him.
    If that's the case, how do you still pay him? As someone mentioned above he was just paid $52,000.
  • the_system
    Writerbuckeye;824829 wrote:This is true. The player punishments (and proposed punishment for JT) were for this coming season (suspensions for 5 games), not for the season already completed.

    Since Tressel no longer works for OSU, you can't fine him.

    Also, do we know what time period the fine is for? He was aware of playing players who should have been sitting the entire year. He was paid for that season, as well as the bonus money from the bowl game win, big ten title, etc. My question is, how can't you fine him to get some of that money back that was obtained in a shady way?
  • Jawbreaker
    How did firing Jim O'Brien work out for OSU? I know this is a different situation but still, I don't think OSU wanted to go down that road again.
  • Writerbuckeye
    the_system;824841 wrote:Also, do we know what time period the fine is for? He was aware of playing players who should have been sitting the entire year. He was paid for that season, as well as the bonus money from the bowl game win, big ten title, etc. My question is, how can't you fine him to get some of that money back that was obtained in a shady way?

    Shady? Sheesh.

    You're getting into questions of contract language now. There would have be be a way for OSU to legally and RETROACTIVELY fine Tressel as opposed to fining him from a current paycheck. I doubt there's a coach in America that has in their contract language that allows such a thing to happen. They'd never agree to it when they're hired.

    I know the time period for the fine because it was being PROPOSED as punishment when this first happened -- and assumed JT would still be coaching. It had him being suspended (first two, then five games) along with having players suspended as well. The fine was projected for the first part of the 2011 season...it was never retroactive.
  • thedynasty1998
    Tressel gets paid in his retirement right? It's not like they cut ties.
  • se-alum
    Scarlet_Buckeye;824779 wrote:This amazes me too. And I think this will come back to bite OSU in the ass. I think the NCAA will look at this and definitely smell some shady business. How are we still paying the man?!
    As much as we dislike what Tress done to the football program, it's hard to overlook what he has contributed to tOSU outside of football. He has given alot of time and money to the University, and I'm sure that played a part in their decision to let him resign.
  • Writerbuckeye
    thedynasty1998;824852 wrote:Tressel gets paid in his retirement right? It's not like they cut ties.

    When you retire you are no longer an employee. Funds from a retirement account do NOT come from the Athletic Department. They are part of the PERS state retirement system; from monies paid by all state employees and the matching amounts made by the employer.
  • LJ
    Jawbreaker;824847 wrote:How did firing Jim O'Brien work out for OSU? I know this is a different situation but still, I don't think OSU wanted to go down that road again.

    echoing what I said about them dropping the fine is nothing more than a legal issue
  • dat dude
    Stewart Mandel: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/stewart_mandel/07/08/ohio-state-ncaa-response/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a5&eref=sihp

    Makes sense.
  • dat dude
    OhioStatePride2003;824771 wrote:I thought the ESPN article said one game?

    No, Smith confirmed a fifth player will be suspended for five games. No idea who, yet.
  • enigmaax
    Although it took them awhile to get there, I really don't know what else OSU could be expected to do. I do not believe there will be a bowl ban and I'll be surprised if there's any more than a token scholarship reduction (doubt it will happen at all).
  • the_system
    Ouch.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/BigTen/post/_/id/28948/ohio-state-response-falls-far-short
  • Writerbuckeye

    Too bad media, like SI, don't adhere to the same standards for proof before they rake people through the muck. Used to be, editors required more than a "he said" before they'd publish the crap that was printed by SI and others covering this story. Sad to say, those days are long gone.
  • Ty Webb
    Does anyone know who the other player that got 5 games is?
  • Ty Webb
    Another question I have is.....by forefiting all of the 2010 season....does that mean the streak againist Michigan is over?
  • Midstate01
    Ty Webb;824969 wrote:Another question I have is.....by forefiting all of the 2010 season....does that mean the streak againist Michigan is over?

    Are you retarded. No. Osu went 0-1 last year. They vacated wins. They dont count as losses. So yes the streak vs scUM still lives.