Sweet 16: (4) Kentucky vs. (1) Ohio State

• Automatik

  

  ccrunner609;725324 wrote:Someone wants me to post that Zona is a better team......are the OSU fans gonna post that UK is a better team?

  
  I think one person complained about calls....maybe two.
  
  Stay negative....its what you're good at.
• lhslep134

  

  ccrunner609;725324 wrote:.are the OSU fans gonna post that UK is a better team?

  
  Last night UK was the better team. If they weren't OSU would have won...
• j_crazy

  

  Apologies to the bucks fans. But I was right.
• mallymal614

  Sullinger is a good college player. Whether or not he be an all-star in the NBA is a different story, but in college he is a heck of a post player.
• Prescott

  .for a freshman he is amazing in the post. His footwork and moves down low are phenomenal.

  What moves??? What is Sullinger's go-to move?? He plays a power game and rarely faces up .
• Automatik

  

  Prescott;725341 wrote:What moves??? What is Sullinger's go-to move?? He plays a power and rarely faces up .

  
  Do you even watch OSU? He has a great spin move and drop step. Although not that much, I"ve also seen him utilize the baby hook effectively.
  
  Like I said...his footwork is amazing and thats what I would interpret as a good post player.
• Laley23

  

  I think Sully has good post moves, when utilized. But too often he just kind of jumps into the defender. In the Big Ten the idiots would foul him, but last night it seemed as though Harrellson stayed straight up every time and if Sully made it, he made it...but it worked as quite a few times Sully wasnt even close and even had a few blocked.
• Automatik

  

  Laley23;725345 wrote:I think Sully has good post moves, when utilized. But too often he just kind of jumps into the defender. In the Big Ten the idiots would foul him, but last night it seemed as though Harrellson stayed straight up every time and if Sully made it, he made it...but it worked as quite a few times Sully wasnt even close and even had a few blocked.

  
  I agree. I felt a few times he was too aggressive and not patient down low....especially that on that last charge. He had space and just went right into him....easy call.
• Prescott

  Do you even watch OSU? He has a great spin move and drop step.

  Yet, he was neutralized by a kid who played a total of 88 minutes last year and is not considered to be a defensive stopper.
  
  Sullinger is big enough and strong enough to overpower many college players, but his post game is unrefined at this stage of his career.
• vball10set

  Prescott;725341 wrote:What moves??? What is Sullinger's go-to move?? He plays a power game and rarely faces up .

  Automatik;725343 wrote:Do you even watch OSU? He has a great spin move and drop step. Although not that much, I"ve also seen him utilize the baby hook effectively.
  
  Like I said...his footwork is amazing and thats what I would interpret as a good post player.

  don't patronize him, Auto..he's delusional, and feeds off this kind of stuff
• vball10set

  Prescott;725352 wrote:Yet, he was neutralized by a kid who played a total of 88 minutes last year and is not considered to be a defensive stopper.

  
  who the hell cares what he did last year....Sully was in HIGH SCHOOL last year!!!!
• Automatik

  

  Prescott;725352 wrote:Yet, he was neutralized by a kid who played a total of 88 minutes last year and is not considered to be a defensive stopper.

  
  Yeah so? You said he wasn't skilled in the post and you are off. Wayyyy fucking off.
  
  Kids are coachable and have the ability to improve.
• lhslep134

  

  Prescott;725352 wrote:Yet, he was neutralized by a kid who played a total of 88 minutes last year and is not considered to be a defensive stopper.

  http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/tournament/2011/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=6251607
  
  Now you can shut up. No need to thank me.
  
  
  As for your analysis of Sullinger, it's not too far from the truth. Sullinger is much better at facing his man leaving him the ability to hit jumpers (like he did all of high school to become the high school POY). His back to the basket game is still very raw, and we saw what Harrellson was able to do defensively about that. Sullinger's footwork IS extremely good, but because of his bigger body, he's not able to elevate above bigger defenders (like Harrellson). That's why I think Amir Williams coming in is HUGE next year because Sully can slide back to the 4, his natural position, and not worry about playing back to the basket every single play.
• lhslep134

  

  BTW, not to change the subject, but I find it hilariously ironic that Texas Tech used Leach sending a player to the woodshed as a reason for firing, but they turn around and hire a guy who locked a kid in a bathroom stall (per the article I posted).
• GOONx19

  

  Harrellson has guarded three of the best post players in the country in practice every day for the last two years. It's not as if he doesn't have experience defensively against good big men.
• vball10set

  lhslep134;725358 wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/tournament/2011/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=6251607
  
  Now you can shut up. No need to thank me.
  
  As for your analysis of Sullinger, it's not too far from the truth. Sullinger is much better at facing his man leaving him the ability to hit jumpers (like he did all of high school to become the high school POY). His back to the basket game is still very raw, and we saw what Harrellson was able to do defensively about that. Sullinger's footwork IS extremely good, but because of his bigger body, he's not able to elevate above bigger defenders (like Harrellson). That's why I think Amir Williams coming in is HUGE next year because Sully can slide back to the 4, his natural position, and not worry about playing back to the basket every single play.

  
  I will--THANK YOU!!!
• Prescott

  Yeah so? You said he wasn't skilled in the post and you are off. Wayyyy fucking off.
  
  Kids are coachable and have the ability to improve.

  I said he didn't have great post moves and he doesn't.
  
  I agree he can improve and I hope he does.
  

  As for your analysis of Sullinger, it's not too far from the truth.

  Thank you.
• Skyhook79

  

  Prescott;725352 wrote:Yet, he was neutralized by a kid who played a total of 88 minutes last year and is not considered to be a defensive stopper.
  
  Sullinger is big enough and strong enough to overpower many college players, but his post game is unrefined at this stage of his career.

  
  21 and 16 is being "neutralized" as a Freshman by a senior on the biggest stage in College Basketball?
• thavoice

  His post moves are atrocious. When he got the ball in the post he was awkward, throwing up terribe shots, fumbling around with the ball. Tripping and falling. He gets his points on rebounds, loose balls and drive and dishes from someone else.
  
  He was exposed big time last night. He needs to be able to play with his face to the rim at that size. Looks like up to this point he dominated where he was at because he was just more athletic and a bull like Shaq did, but then again Shaq was over 7 foot and a beast and STILL did have moves in the post. SUllinger is not big enough to play like a big guy. Ya saw last night when an unathletic dude who was bigger was able to stop him one on one.
• Laley23

  

  Skyhook79;725371 wrote:21 and 16 is being "neutralized" as a Freshman by a senior on the biggest stage in College Basketball?

  
  Id say yes, based on the fact that he didnt hurt UK. It wasnt a complete domination where he was touching the ball and scoring at will.
  
  He ended up with numbers, but he had to work hard for it, and in the end UK was able to neutralize the biggest advantage OSU had on them.
• Prescott

  21 and 16 is being "neutralized" as a Freshman by a senior on the biggest stage in College Basketball?

  Sullinger was 7/14 from the field(21 points) and grabbed 16 rebounds in 39 minutes. Harrellson was 7/9 from the field(17 points) and grabbed 10 rebounds in 34 minutes.
  
  Seems like a push to me.
• queencitybuckeye

  ccrunner609;725324 wrote:Someone wants me to post that Zona is a better team......are the OSU fans gonna post that UK is a better team?

  
  Most of us would rather see you not hide like the pussy you are when your team gets beat, then show up to talk low-grade smack about the results of another game.
• GoJPM!

  

  Very disappointed but such is life sometimes. Really thought this would be OSU's year.
  
  Beginning to think Thad Matta is becoming the basketball equivalent of John Cooper. Great recruiter who can put together great teams, on paper, but seems to fall short, underachieve, or underwhelm us at the end of the day.
• GoJPM!

  

  Cleveland Buck;725094 wrote:This is why I didn't pick the Buckeyes to win it all. The best team doesn't always win it. Kentucky couldn't have played any better, they shut down the three point line for the most part and made Sullinger work for everything. With all of that, if Buford hits the 5 or 6 open looks he missed it still wouldn't have been enough.

  And if they hit their free throws. How many did they miss?
• SportsAndLady

  

  You need a great NCAA tournament coach to win a national championship...look at the last few winners...Roy Williams, Bill Self, Coach K, Billy Donovan....Thad Matta just isn't a national championship coach.