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What else does Boise have to prove?

  • jordo212000
    enigmaax;475276 wrote:I'm actually going to agree with you on that for the most part. I won't say it was a competitive conspiracy against them, but probably money had a lot to do with it. I DO think an undefeated Boise should get BCS bowl games (same for TCU). I'm just against a national title shot.

    That matchup still sickens me to this day. I have to admit I wasn't always gung ho about this conspiracy, but the minute I saw that matchup I became a believer. What could we possibly learn from that matchup? Wouldn't it have been better to play them against a big dog to see if they can compete?
  • karen lotz
    ^^^

    Exactly, neither of them were going to play for the national championship, why not see what they could do against a Florida or an undefeated Cincinnati team. Obviously OSU and Oregon were unavailable due to the tie ins with the Rose Bowl but there were opportunities to see how they would fare with some of the best teams in the BCS.
  • ytownfootball
    If you were a member of that committee, would you be willing to throw buckets of fuel on the fire and burn "it" down?
  • rock_knutne
    All I know is after last night's game, I'm willing to see what Boise St. will do in a NC game, IMO they've earned it. Boise has won their biggest games away from home and that has to be commended. I also think if Boise didn't play on that stupid blue turf, they would get a couple of upper tier teams to play a home and home with them. If Bama and OSU slip up there's no doubt in my mind that they will get in, they could be the only undefeated team left in the country come the end of the season.
  • LJ
    se-alum;475041 wrote:They had an opportunity for a 2-for-1 deal(2 in Lincoln, 1 in Boise) with Nebraska and declined. Obviously not trying terribly hard to upgrade their schedule. It's easy for Boise St. to play the spurned little brother role. Just tell everyone that nobody wants to come play at their field(what top team would), and that way they continue to be relevant to college football.

    Let's be honest, major college athletic programs CAN'T afford to go play a game in Boise, as they have huge Athletic Departments to run, basically off of their football revenues. OSU couldn't make enough money packing a 30,000 seat stadium. It just isn't logical. College football is a business, like it or not.

    I am wondering if not only do they want a home/home, but if they are looking for a big payday with their "we TRY to schedule the big teams, but they don't want to play us" might be missing "because we want too much money and really want home/home"
  • jordo212000
    ytownfootball;475297 wrote:If you were a member of that committee, would you be willing to throw buckets of fuel on the fire and burn "it" down?

    If I was a member of the committee and I was as crooked as they are, yes I would pair them against each other, avoid another embarrassment (Utah vs. Alabama) and still be able to cling to the "well we don't know if they can play with the big dogs" card.

    If either Boise and TCU both won matchups with Cincy/Florida the BCS would have been in big trouble. They did what they had to do to keep up charade.
  • ytownfootball
    I really don't know what else you should expect from private enterprise, you're not under the impression that the BCS is somehow an NCAA sanctioned system are you?
  • jordo212000
    ytownfootball;475325 wrote:I really don't know what else you should expect from private enterprise, you're not under the impression that the BCS is somehow an NCAA sanctioned system are you?

    That's another problem there. We would not be having this discussion if there were a playoff like, gee I don't know, every other sport.

    They could settle it on the field and we wouldn't have to try and guess how Idaho would stack up against Indiana.
  • dlazz
    This thread is really ridiculous to read. It's like reading a JJHuddle thread all over again.

    I'm out.
  • LJ
    LJ;475307 wrote:I am wondering if not only do they want a home/home, but if they are looking for a big payday with their "we TRY to schedule the big teams, but they don't want to play us" might be missing "because we want too much money and really want home/home"

    Sounds like I was correct

    http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/09/assistant-nebraska-ad-boise-wanted-1-million-to-play-us/
    In an interview with the Omaha World-Herald, Nebraska assistant athletic director Jeff Jamrog says the Huskers tried to schedule a series with the Broncos, but Boise countered with its best diva impersonation by demanding a whopping $1 million to play in Lincoln.
  • enigmaax

    Ah, poor Boise...doing everything they can to schedule the big boys. And wanting the best of every world like bitches.
  • LJ
    enigmaax;477772 wrote:Ah, poor Boise...doing everything they can to schedule the big boys. And wanting the best of every world like bitches.

    Yeah we will play you in the parking lot on broken glass.... for the right price, eh....eh...;) ;) eh....
  • FatHobbit
    In an interview with the Omaha World-Herald, Nebraska assistant athletic director Jeff Jamrog says the Huskers tried to schedule a series with the Broncos, but Boise countered with its best diva impersonation by demanding a whopping $1 million to play in Lincoln.

    Nebraska's response: Um ... no.

    According to the World-Herald, Nebraska tried feverishly to to put together a series with Boise that would include "either a two-for-one, home-and-home or one-way trip to Lincoln", but Boise refused to budge on its lofty demands.
    Does anyone have a clue what teams usually get when they do a home and home? I know we pay quite a bit to have teams come here because we make a ton on tickets, but what do we pay Miami or Texas when we have a home and home with them?
  • sleeper
    FatHobbit;478370 wrote:Does anyone have a clue what teams usually get when they do a home and home? I know we pay quite a bit to have teams come here because we make a ton on tickets, but what do we pay Miami or Texas when we have a home and home with them?

    I don't think we pay them anything. Each school gets a big time game in their home stadium. The smaller schools get payouts because top programs aren't going to go to a stadium with only 20k people, so they just give them a share of their home game revenues.
  • FatHobbit
    sleeper;478377 wrote:I don't think we pay them anything. Each school gets a big time game in their home stadium. The smaller schools get payouts because top programs aren't going to go to a stadium with only 20k people, so they just give them a share of their home game revenues.

    That's kind of what I thought. Don't we just trade tickets with them? Like they get 5000 tickets here and we get 5000 tickets there?
  • trep14

    Something doesn't add up. A team that is willing to fly across the country to essentially play a road game against a Virginia Tech team that is better than Nebraska is now trying to duck said Nebraska team?

    My guess is that Nebraska wanted Boise to come to Lincoln for less money and not have a return trip to Boise. And if the schedule involves a one way trip, Boise to Nebraska, with no return trip by Nebraska, I can't necessarily blame Boise for turning it down. Heck Colorado, a middle of the pack BCS team is getting paid $1.4 million dollars for a one way trip to the Horseshoe next year for a game that wouldn't make nearly as much money as a Nebraska-Boise game. Nebraska would stand to make a killing if they got Boise to come to Lincoln for a couple hundred thousand dollars.
  • FatHobbit
    trep14;478538 wrote:Something doesn't add up. A team that is willing to fly across the country to essentially play a road game against a Virginia Tech team that is better than Nebraska is now trying to duck said Nebraska team?

    Boise got $1.25 Million to play VT.

    http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2010/09/03/1155456/boise-state-vs-virginia-tech-notebook.html
  • trep14
    I can't sum it up any better than what someone said in the comments section:

    "The University of Idaho (UofI, not Boise St) is getting $800,000 to play Nebraska this year. UofI is getting $850,000 from Texas A&M in 2011, and $950,000 to play LSU in 2012.

    On what planet does BSU (a Top5 team with the top Heisman candidate in 2011) warrant this line-

    'Boise countered with its best diva impersonation by demanding a whopping $1 million to play in Lincoln. '

    BSU is a huge draw and a steal at $1 million."
  • FatHobbit
    trep14;478538 wrote:My guess is that Nebraska wanted Boise to come to Lincoln for less money and not have a return trip to Boise.
    from the article
    According to the World-Herald, Nebraska tried feverishly to to put together a series with Boise that would include "either a two-for-one, home-and-home or one-way trip to Lincoln", but Boise refused to budge on its lofty demands.
    trep14;478538 wrote:Nebraska would stand to make a killing if they got Boise to come to Lincoln for a couple hundred thousand dollars.

    My guess is Nebraska will sell out whatever cupcake they can schedule, so they make more money scheduling a cheaper team.
  • trep14
    FatHobbit;478545 wrote:
    My guess is Nebraska will sell out whatever cupcake they can schedule, so they make more money scheduling a cheaper team.

    I'm guessing that Nebraska playing a top 5 team is going to make significantly more money for Nebraska than Nebraska playing Idaho. Va Tech -Boise had a rating of 7.3, one of the highest rated regular season games in years.

    http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2010/09/10/bmurphy/boise_state_no_17_college_football_team_1998_one_stat_more_tv_ra
  • Mooney44Cards
    trep14;478543 wrote:I can't sum it up any better than what someone said in the comments section:

    "The University of Idaho (UofI, not Boise St) is getting $800,000 to play Nebraska this year. UofI is getting $850,000 from Texas A&M in 2011, and $950,000 to play LSU in 2012.

    On what planet does BSU (a Top5 team with the top Heisman candidate in 2011) warrant this line-

    'Boise countered with its best diva impersonation by demanding a whopping $1 million to play in Lincoln. '

    BSU is a huge draw and a steal at $1 million."

    Boise State is nowhere near the draw of any of those teams sans Idaho, who wouldn't be getting a home/home.
  • trep14
    Mooney44Cards;478553 wrote:Boise State is nowhere near the draw of any of those teams sans Idaho, who wouldn't be getting a home/home.

    Boise State-Va Tech was tied with last years ohio state-usc game for the highest rated regular season college football game in the past 16 years. It drew more viewers than last years Orange Bowl.
  • trep14
    FatHobbit;478545 wrote:from the article

    Didn't see that. Like I said, I would be surprised if everything went exactly as this Nebraska AAD is saying. Its hard to know exactly what was said in conversations between the AD's. I have a hard time believing that Boise even turned down a home and home series with Nebraska. A team that was willing to schedule home and home with Oregon and Oregon State (both of whom have been better than Nebraska the past few years) is now ducking Nebraska? Is that what this AAD wants us to believe? Thats the conclusion I'm drawing from it.
  • FatHobbit
    trep14;478558 wrote:Boise State-Va Tech was tied with last years ohio state-usc game for the highest rated regular season college football game in the past 16 years. It drew more viewers than last years Orange Bowl.

    Do the schools get a cut of the ratings? They have TV deals, but I don't think they get a cut. I could be wrong.
  • FatHobbit
    trep14;478565 wrote:Didn't see that. Like I said, I would be surprised if everything went exactly as this Nebraska AAD is saying. Its hard to know exactly what was said in conversations between the AD's. I have a hard time believing that Boise even turned down a home and home series with Nebraska. A team that was willing to schedule home and home with Oregon and Oregon State (both of whom have been better than Nebraska the past few years) is now ducking Nebraska? Is that what this AAD wants us to believe? Thats the conclusion I'm drawing from it.

    I would think that if it weren't true, Boise would issue some kind of statement.

    Also, Boise's stadium only seats ~34,000 people and the tickets are $49 each. So they bring in a little over $1.5 million in tickets, but that doesn't count operating costs and they would only get one home game out of two years. I can see how it would make them more money to play away games and they might be trying to cash in on their newfound popularity. (I don't blame them for that. It's all a big money grab anyway.)