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KR1245

gibby08;432018 wrote:Any of those guys have a better shot than him right now

Mallet has a better shot? Arkansas is going to finish in the middle of the SEC like they always do. Washington lost 7 games last year, you need to win games to win the Heisman. Moore plays for Boiste State....nough said. Pryor's chance of winning the Heisman is just as good if not better than the guys you listed.

rock_knutne

Pick6;432020 wrote:blah blah..typical of you, get disproved in an argument and revert to personal attacks. Brett Favre has a career passing rating of 86.6. Prior to this season, which was also his statistically best season, his passer rating was 81.07. Thats real good!!

LMAO......disproved? You're comparing Vince Young to a future HOF QB in Brett Favre........get a fucking clue! The "blah blah" is typical of you when you make STUPID statements and can't back them up!

killer_ewok

j_crazy;431903 wrote:give me a 19-3 terelle pryor.

you can keep your 16-18 jimmy clausen.

Actually, we can't. The Carolina Panthers drafted him.

Pick6

rock_knutne;432032 wrote:LMAO......disproved? You're comparing Vince Young to a future HOF QB in Brett Favre........get a fucking clue! The "blah blah" is typical of you when you make STUPID statements and can't back them up!

Nowhere in my post was I comparing Vince Young's talent to Brett Favre's talent. Brett Favre is a QB who has had success but takes a lot of chances, and turns the ball over. He isn't like your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. Try again and quit putting words in my mouth.

killer_ewok

On topic.....Pryor is an amazing talent and ended the season with some excellent and promising performances. His W-L record is very good and he deserves some credit for that but wasn't Craig Krenzel 24-3 as a starter at OSU? Krenzel was a pretty darn good college QB but that was far from a one man show. Pryor's late season surge could be the tip of the iceberg and he may play up to his potential and live up to the hype this season. However, it's possible that he never lives up to the insane amount of hype that preceded his arrival in Columbus. Same thing happened with Clausen at Notre Dame. Though I will say that Pryor has had more team success at OSU than Clausen had in his career at ND. Personal statistical accolades and draft status.....well, that remains to be seen. But, Pryor still has time left at the collegiate level and it will be interesting to see which Terrelle shows up for the majority of this season.

ts1227

Just looking at the posts here... you can throw out that OSU is 19-3 with Pryor at the helm, but him being at QB has very little to do with that.

The Oregon game is the first time he really played above average, and I don't understand how that one game proves he's going to be the best in the league this year. Sure, it MAY have been a break out game, but I don't see why everyone assumes that is just a mere formality that he is the best from that. Knutne is right where it's his athleticism that is well above average, not his QB skills.

Strapping Young Lad

Here's my Pryor prediction, get ready: Comes into the season with an ego impossibly more inflated than before due to going out with a bang in the Rose Bowl. Then proceeds to lean backward and throw the ball straight into the air as high as possible when under pressure.

Edit: then, his team and weak conference bail him out giving him a good record as a starting QB. Fails out of the NFL when he still can't read after 4 years at THE OSU.

BigAppleBuckeye

How can no one mention that this kid played a significant chunk of the season with a torn PCL? I am not calling him the next "Great One," but this kid was gutsy and succeeded without talking about his injury. I am sure many schools wish their quarterbacks played as well while healthy, let alone while playing hurt.

karen lotz

Didn't he come out and say before the bowl game that his knee was hurt worse than anyone thought? I'm not saying he is the next "Great One," but Clausen played the last 3/4 of the season with a injury he could barely walk with and he played pretty well.

Tiger2003

Clausen did play good but he went 0-4 in the last 4 games against Navy, Pitt, UCONN, and Stanford.

I am not going to sit here and debate who was better in 2009 because that is history.

But right now 2010 Terrelle Pryor has to be in the top 3 of quarterbacks in the Nation. Just because he the QB does not mean he has to throw for 3,500-4,000 Yards with 25+ Passing touchdowns to be the best. He is a dual threat QB and that is what makes him so good. Yah he might not have the best throwing technique but it has improved from day one and all he does is win games. 19-3 as a starter. Pryor totaled out last year at 2873 total yards with 25 Touchdowns. I would take that year in year out. Just this last year Pryor was part of 25 out of the 39 OSU offensive touchdowns....and if you really think about it probably more then that, because of the option and QB read play.

I would not trade Pryor for any other Starting QB in the Nation.

Automatik

Anyone who thinks Pryor can't throw or isn't improving is a complete tard. Watch the damn games and stfu. When he makes his reads, plants and throws with proper form he has a fucking rocket arm. He's going to beast this year....you can mark that down.

You can also mark down that ND won't be worth a shit...... so you nerds can just stop your BS right now.

Tiger2003

Strapping you lad..... Who is your team?

killer_ewok

Automatik;432158 wrote:Anyone who thinks Pryor can't throw or isn't improving is a complete tard. Watch the damn games and stfu. When he makes his reads, plants and throws with proper form he has a fucking rocket arm. He's going to beast this year....you can mark that down.

You can also mark down that ND won't be worth a shit...... so you nerds can just stop your BS right now.

All marked down. We'll revisit this in several months.

Oh...and who the fuck says "Nerds" anymore? Also, maybe we should more clearly define what "won't be worth a shit" actually means. Winless? 2 wins? 4 wins? 6 wins?

Al Bundy

rock_knutne;431972 wrote:Don't jump all over me about his sub par QB stats, he's not a very good passer and thus far has made more bad decisions than good ones under center. The only thing he can do is run, his throwing motion is awful, you would think that they would have worked on it before last year but that definitely wasn't the case. You're not going to run the table in CFB any more if you can't succesfully throw the football, there's no disputing that. A defense like Alabama would eat him alive, he has to improve his throwing skills!

And yeah, he would probably be a better WR than a QB at this point of his career, his pure athleticism makes that's a no brainer!

Just because someone is fast doesn't mean he would be a good WR. Pryor would be a complete unknown at WR, but we know he is developing into a pretty good college QB.

CinciX12

Automatik;432158 wrote:Anyone who thinks Pryor can't throw or isn't improving is a complete tard. Watch the damn games and stfu. When he makes his reads, plants and throws with proper form he has a fucking rocket arm. He's going to beast this year....you can mark that down.

You can also mark down that ND won't be worth a shit...... so you nerds can just stop your BS right now.

Thats all awesome. Except you need more than 5 times a game where you make the right read, plant on the correct foot, make a throw with proper form, and not just take off when the primary is covered.

Automatik

killer_ewok;432189 wrote:All marked down. We'll revisit this in several months.

Oh...and who the fuck says "Nerds" anymore? Also, maybe we should more clearly define what "won't be worth a shit" actually means. Winless? 2 wins? 4 wins? 6 wins?

Make an ND thread and I'll discuss in there. I was referring to some, not all, ND fans. They come in here talking shit when they don't have a single player on their team that could hold Pryor's jock.

I'm seeing all signs of improvement from what I've read/watched so far this offseason.

Cinci....also....did you watch how Pryor finished the season? He looked pretty solid IMO. Will it carry over to this year? We will soon find out.

devil1197

CinciX12;432196 wrote:Thats all awesome. Except you need more than 5 times a game where you make the right read, plant on the correct foot, make a throw with proper form, and not just take off when the primary is covered.

Great point and if you actually watched the last half of the season, Pryor improved in every area that you mentioned. The biggest improvement was not taking off as soon as Posey or Dane was covered, this was probabbly due to his knee injury imo.

Pryor limited his turnovers and made the correct plays. He may not have put up huge stats but he was effective when needed especially against Iowa, PSU, and Oregon.

rock_knutne

Automatik;432199 wrote:Make an ND thread and I'll discuss in there. I was referring to some, not all, ND fans. They come in here talking shit when they don't have a single player on their team that could hold Pryor's jock.

I'm seeing all signs of improvement from what I've read/watched so far this offseason.

Cinci....also....did you watch how Pryor finished the season? He looked pretty solid IMO. Will it carry over to this year? We will soon find out.

I know you're talking about me auto and I really don't give FUCK about what you think! The bottom line is he's an average QB at best. His passing numbers show that. Some of you can't accept the facts and some of you need to wake up if you think Pryor will just run over teams, not going to happen every week!

As for your ND talent remark, there's several players on ND's roster that were HEAVILY recruited by Tressel.......but hey, they can't carry Pryor's jock, laughable!

rock_knutne

Al Bundy;432191 wrote:Just because someone is fast doesn't mean he would be a good WR. Pryor would be a complete unknown at WR, but we know he is developing into a pretty good college QB.

If he would have played WR from day one, his development would be a lot farther along, that's the point I'm trying to make.

Automatik

rock_knutne;432210 wrote:I know you're talking about me auto and I really don't give FUCK about what you think! The bottom line is he's an average QB at best. His passing numbers show that. Some of you can't accept the facts and some of you need to wake up if you think Pryor will just run over teams, not going to happen every week!

As for your ND talent remark, there's several players on ND's roster that were HEAVILY recruited by Tressel.......but hey, they can't carry Pryor's jock, laughable!

I enjoy when you make your opinions out like they are facts. It makes me chuckle.

If Pryor is deemed "average" and continues improving and winning than I'll take it.

I stand by the statement....not a single player.

rock_knutne

Pick6;432044 wrote:Nowhere in my post was I comparing Vince Young's talent to Brett Favre's talent. Brett Favre is a QB who has had success but takes a lot of chances, and turns the ball over. He isn't like your Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. Try again and quit putting words in my mouth.

Hahaha.......put words in your mouth? That's a tactic you use effectively on here!

You're the one who brought up Brett Favre and INT's, thus making a CLEAR comparison to Vince Young and his success, which he has none. Keep posting those brain storms!

rock_knutne

Automatik;432212 wrote:I enjoy when you make your opinions out like they are facts. It makes me chuckle.

I stand by the statement....not a single player.

My last post has plenty of facts, Pryor's numbers are mediocre and ND has several players that OSU wanted badly.

Automatik

Since when are "average QBs at best" mentioned in preseason Heisman talks?

Ohhhh nevermind I get it. You're ND....screw wins lets just have nice numbers i.e. Quinn, Clausen.

KR1245

rock_knutne;432210 wrote:I know you're talking about me auto and I really don't give FUCK about what you think! The bottom line is he's an average QB at best. His passing numbers show that. Some of you can't accept the facts and some of you need to wake up if you think Pryor will just run over teams, not going to happen every week!

As for your ND talent remark, there's several players on ND's roster that were HEAVILY recruited by Tressel.......but hey, they can't carry Pryor's jock, laughable!

There is more to being a good quarterback than passing numbers....especially at the college game. Look at guys like Colt Brennan and Graham Harrell. "hes an average QB at best" I dont think you can make that statement and point to his passing numbers as your proof.

Scarlet_Buckeye

sjmvsfscs08;431845 wrote:Terrelle Pryor, as a quarterback throwing the ball, was incredibly below average. ... a perfect offensive gameplan from Ohio State made Pryor's stats look very good in the Rose Bowl. ... He threw screens and slants all day and Ohio State kept Oregon off balance.

I agree with all of this. Those expecting a big year from Ohio State are sipping too much OSU koolaid. Yes OSU will be good (they won't lose more than two [regular season] games), but much of their success will ride on the shoulders of Pryor; and quite frankly, I don't think the kid is a very good QB. He is a TREMENDOUS athlete, but quarterback? No. His accuracy is not that of an elite QB.

And yes, he had a superb game against Oregon, but when you really breakdown the film, the OSU coaching staff actually did their job for once and came prepared. They had an impeccable game-plan.

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