Nebraska to Join the Big 10

• enigmaax

  dokken;385872 wrote:Ok, they beat the #20 team once in 2005. So essentially they beat a Ball State or Air Force type team. Cause thats usually what hangs out below 20.

  
  Ummm.....Air Force is in TCU's conference...TCU's entire schedule is made up of Air Force type teams and below.
• dokken

  We are agreeing, relax. Nebraska is essentially doing what TCU did. TCU had success and Nebraska figured out downgrading is better for their program alot quicker than TCU did.
• sjmvsfscs08

  What the hell are we arguing about?
  
  Nebraska went through a coaching change, that is difficult situation for every school and a chance to really screw up the program if done incorrectly. They fired Frank Solich hastily and paid the consequences. Don't look now (okay look haha) but Michigan is on a very similar path. It can take a decade or so to get out of the slump. It happened to Southern Cal, Alabama, Nebraska, etc., and it will happen again.
  
  Comparing Nebraska and Texas Christian is apples and oranges. Nebraska will be back, their coach is a keeper. Texas Christian was not a big player since the Franklin D. Roosevelt Administration.
• enigmaax

  dokken;385898 wrote:We are agreeing, relax. Nebraska is essentially doing what TCU did. TCU had success and Nebraska figured out downgrading is better for their program alot quicker than TCU did.

  
  Ha ha ha ha ha ha. I'm just going to go with you on this because that is a fun take. They may be able to make like OSU and beat up on a bunch of weak sisters and start making BCS bowls again.
• jordo212000

  

  rock_knutne;385504 wrote:They'd be a great fit for the Big 12.......no brainer!

  
  Sure TCU could compete and they are building a good program. But... financially TCU does not carry they same amount of weight that Nebraska does. There is a reason the Big 10 has been courting Nebraska and not TCU. As others have said TCU doesn't sell out in its' tiny stadium and only in the past 10 years have they started playing big time football again.
• Scarlet_Fever

  

  LJ;385826 wrote:Holy Shit this is absolute chaos
  
  http://www.kctv5.com/sports/23860558/detail.html

  
  If any of that is true that is crazy.
• Red_Skin_Pride

  

  rock_knutne;385274 wrote:Yes I did and what's wrong with that? TCU has been a very good program the past few years, membership in the Big 12 would only enhance that, plus geographically it makes sense with the other Texas schools. BTW, TCU would have given Nebraska all they wanted and more the past few seasons.

  
  
  60,000+ fans per game with Nebraska, less than half that for TCU. TCU would NEVER have ended up in the Big12, even if it had stayed together. They have less than 9k students at their school. They would have come in at the bottom of the barrel in terms of their cut of the big12 revenue, with no chance to improve, because the conference wouldn't allow them an equal cut. You as a ND fan, above all should know that money talks and bullshit walks, and TCU offers a major conference NOTHING when it comes to revenue or fanbase (and media market...last I checked Ft. Worth Texas wasn't really the the top media area around).
• rock_knutne

  sleeper;385727 wrote:What about my post is inaccurate? ND is ranked highly in revenue and academics. What about perennial 6-6 with huge bowl loss streaks and getting BLOWN OUT against top competition screams football success?

  
  Your stupid blanket statement about ND fans who are worried more about money than they are winning! You make more garbage up than anyone else on here. Maybe you should drop the crack and go straight to shooting up.
• rock_knutne

  As for everyone jumping on me about TCU, all points are well taken and most are accurate. My point is, IF the Big 12 wants to stay together, TCU would be a perfect fit in terms of geography and being an up and coming program. The other team that would fit in well as the 12th team would be Boise St, they're a little farther north but still pretty much in the same region of the country and their program is battle tested against the bigger schools.
  
  All this is speculation and depends on what Texas will do.
• Red_Skin_Pride

  

  rock_knutne;386245 wrote:As for everyone jumping on me about TCU, all points are well taken and most are accurate. My point is, IF the Big 12 wants to stay together, TCU would be a perfect fit in terms of geography and being an up and coming program. The other team that would fit in well as the 12th team would be Boise St, they're a little farther north but still pretty much in the same region of the country and their program is battle tested against the bigger schools.
  
  All this is speculation and depends on what Texas will do.

  
  For once I agree with you (about the points you made about TCU in this post). However, the longer this goes, the less 'waiting on Texas' other schools in the Big12 will do, and they will start going. By the time it's over with, there won't be much left to save, except for the recent bottom feeders, and so Texas will end up as an Independent. If Texas decides to move to a different conference soon, whichever conference likely gets A&M too. If they wait, A&M may go with Tech or go on their own. A LOT of Big12 schools are sick of bending over backwards to Texas.
• krambman

  

  rock_knutne;386240 wrote:Your stupid blanket statement about ND fans who are worried more about money than they are winning! You make more garbage up than anyone else on here. Maybe you should drop the crack and go straight to shooting up.

  
  He does make stuff up and makes more unsubstantiated claims than anyone on here, you are correct. Yet, you continually respond to him. He only makes those kinds of statements to get a rise out of people like you. You realize this and continue responding trying to get a different result. That's the definition of insanity. Methinks you come off looking like more of a fool than him.
• rock_knutne

  krambman;386261 wrote:He does make stuff up and makes more unsubstantiated claims than anyone on here, you are correct. Yet, you continually respond to him. He only makes those kinds of statements to get a rise out of people like you. You realize this and continue responding trying to get a different result. That's the definition of insanity. Methinks you come off looking like more of a fool than him.

  
  Well if I'm insane then he's brain dead!
• killdeer

  

  rock_knutne;385502 wrote:I tell ya, what's funny is your post. What does ND's record have to do with anything? If that's the case, why did the Big 10 go after them yet again? It's all about money, something ND doesn't need. AGAIN, ND will be just fine, as I said before, they could lose every game for the next 10 years and the fanbase would still be there.

  this quote says WAY more about ND fans than it does about the quality of ND's programs.
  Again...elitist completely to the point of irrelevancy.
  Amazing.
  Thanks for the laughs.
  
  BTW, I hope Italy bites it this weekend.
• krambman

  

  rock_knutne;386310 wrote:Well if I'm insane then he's brain dead!

  
  No, he's not brain dead, he's playing a character (although he'd never admit it). He knows exactly who he is and what role he plays around here. Yet you seem to continue to respond to him as if what he says is serious. My suggestion, use the ignore feature and stop responding to him or continue to make yourself look foolish.
• Sonofanump

  rock_knutne;385721 wrote:Not to play devil's avocate but why did Texas, A&M and Tech take Baylor with them?

  
  Rumor was that then governor Ann Richards a Baylor alum used alot of influence to have Baylor part of the league. But this article is very interesting.
  
  http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/083006dnspobaylortcusf.4bf22e33.html
• rock_knutne

  killdeer;386391 wrote:this quote says WAY more about ND fans than it does about the quality of ND's programs.
  Again...elitist completely to the point of irrelevancy.
  Amazing.
  Thanks for the laughs.
  
  BTW, I hope Italy bites it this weekend.

  
  Elitist.......like the Big 10? You're post says alot about your mental make up, not very stable. I love jealous haters, they make my day.
• rock_knutne

  krambman;386405 wrote:No, he's not brain dead, he's playing a character (although he'd never admit it). He knows exactly who he is and what role he plays around here. Yet you seem to continue to respond to him as if what he says is serious. My suggestion, use the ignore feature and stop responding to him or continue to make yourself look foolish.

  
  Gee thanks Dad but I can handle it on my own.:rolleyes:
• rock_knutne

  Sonofanump;386448 wrote:Rumor was that then governor Ann Richards a Baylor alum used alot of influence to have Baylor part of the league. But this article is very interesting.
  
  http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/stories/083006dnspobaylortcusf.4bf22e33.html

  
  Sounds like Baylor was given a spot in the Big 12 as long as they were the broke the bad nes to the other SWC teams. That's pretty low.
• vball10set

  rock_knutne;385278 wrote: IMO, it doesn't matter because I believe the Big 10 will not expand beyond 12 teams which puts an end to the stupid idea of these "mega" conferences..

  
  sorry,rock- but you're dead wrong on this one...we'll revisit this quote in a month and discuss further
• TedSheckler

  

  Don't you know that rock is never wrong. He's the all-knowing, all-powerful Oz. Plus he'll kick your ass.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  " (and media market...last I checked Ft. Worth Texas wasn't really the the top media area around). "
  
  To be fair, if the Ft. Worth market doesn't matter, why does Rutgers' market matter? Ft. Worth is certainly more connected to the Dallas metroplex then New Brunswick is to NYC, and people in Texas actually care about football.
• j_crazy

  

  if you get texas and A&M, you get Houston's market, which is like the 4th largest city in the US. I'd be all for it.
• enigmaax

  rock_knutne;386245 wrote:As for everyone jumping on me about TCU, all points are well taken and most are accurate. My point is, IF the Big 12 wants to stay together, TCU would be a perfect fit in terms of geography and being an up and coming program.

  
  I don't disagree with this at all. The thing I responded to originally and the point I maintain is that TCU's success is sometimes overplayed, that people tend to forget that TCU's program developed into a winner after they moved down a level. There are distinctions between BCS and non-BCS conferences and I don't agree when people say they are on equal ground.
  
  However, the successful second tier programs have gained steam and if ever there was a time to capitalize or "move up" for those schools it is definitely now. TCU is not Nebraska, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't benefit the Big XII to stay together and replace Nebraska with TCU. I've said before, even if it is just Kansas, KSU, Iowa State, and Baylor left, they could cherry pick all the top "mid-majors" out there for a new Big XII (or whatever they called it) and they'd likely get a BCS autobid. To me, this is exactly the opening Utah, BYU, TCU, Boise, etc. need to grab their slice.
• dat dude

  rock_knutne;385239 wrote:You're serious, elitist philosophy?

  then:
  

  rock_knutne;385239 wrote: They could lose every game they play for the next 10 years and ND would still have, and will forever have the world at it's feet, get used to it because that will never change!

  
  LOL
• j_crazy

  

  lulz